But if I had this one on my scooter, I’d leave it on!

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Addicted
![]() 86 T5, 71 Sprint, 63 GL
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 625 Location: Oak Brook, Illinois |
![]() I googled the footrest, hard to believe they rode two up this way!
But if I had this one on my scooter, I’d leave it on! ![]() |
![]() Hole filling:
Here's one possibility. Epoxy a piece of metal to the inside of the cowl covering up the hole (a patch). A knock out from an electrical box works great. Let it dry. Cover the hole on the outside with JB weld. Sand, primer, paint. Or fill it with Shoe-goo... ![]() Can I get a bodge rating on this? |
Hooked
![]() ![]() 1963 Vespa VBB, 1965 Allstate Cruisaire, 1974 Vespa Super, 2003 Stella 2T
Joined: 31 Jan 2016
Posts: 125 Location: Kansas City |
![]() If welding them closed is not an option I would fiberglass from the back. JB weld may pop out.
Or, solder them: http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/Repairing%20Holes%20in%20Sheet%20Metal.ashx |
Hooked
![]() 1958 Allstate Super Cruisaire 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 220 Location: Philadelphia |
bodgemaster
![]() ![]() 63 GL, 76 Super (x 2), 74 Primavera (x 2), 06 Fly 150
Joined: 26 Sep 2013
Posts: 5653 Location: So Cal |
![]() gmontag wrote: Hole filling: Here's one possibility. Epoxy a piece of metal to the inside of the cowl covering up the hole (a patch). A knock out from an electrical box works great. Let it dry. Cover the hole on the outside with JB weld. Sand, primer, paint. |
Addicted
![]() ![]() 1981 P200E / 1979 P200E / 1974 Rally 200
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 502 Location: San Francisco, CA |
![]() Vpfalcon wrote: I took the glove side cowl with me to the paint supplier and noticed 3 holes that have been drilled through the cowl. (Probably for a battery). I want to fill them. Any advice on how to fill them? If you don't have access to equipment, shop around body shops. It's very simple welding. Can prob get it done pretty cheaply. |
![]() Vpfalcon wrote: I googled the footrest, hard to believe they rode two up this way! But if I had this one on my scooter, I’d leave it on! All good suggestions aforementioned for filling the holes. ![]() ![]() This one even has a backrest set up side saddle!! |
Molto Verboso
![]() One or two fun scoots....nothing too precious
Joined: 17 Jul 2013
Posts: 1603 Location: UK (South East) |
![]() For reference
Just appeared on eBay UK.......early GL150 with the foot rest for a side saddle pillion
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1963-Vespa-GL150-100-italian-Piaggio-with-Nova-ref-date-cert-early-GL150/154301743813?hash=item23ed19c2c5:g:yPgAAOSwONpgCpum ![]() |
Addicted
![]() 86 T5, 71 Sprint, 63 GL
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 625 Location: Oak Brook, Illinois |
![]() Parts arrived
A box of parts arrived today, wheels, shocks, brakes, mudguard, bearings, seals, bushes, clutch rebuild, carb kit, exhaust.
I’ve been cleaning parts for the past three days. The front hub was a pita! Also got the holes in the cowl welded up. $40. I’m waiting for the mudguard trim to arrive from India. After I drill the holes for the trim I’ll paint the the mudguard, headset, front suspension and wheel hub. It’s a long winter in Chicago, I’m glad I’ve got something to do! ![]() Box of parts was beat up, luckily everything inside was good. ![]() New front spring was missing, I sent an email ![]() Tubeless ![]() ![]() Hub ![]() Holes welded up |
Addicted
![]() 86 T5, 71 Sprint, 63 GL
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 625 Location: Oak Brook, Illinois |
![]() I installed the swing arm and rear shock mounts yesterday and today. I used PLC Corse mounts. I had trouble with the installation, the swing arm mounts just wouldn’t go all the way in. Eventually I found out that I needed to sand down the plastic spacers on the swing arm bushes to decrease the thickness. After I did that they fit fine.
Thanks to PLC Corse for getting back to me right away. And also thanks to Safis for the installation advice! ![]() ![]() Before I modified the spacers |
Addicted
![]() 86 T5, 71 Sprint, 63 GL
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 625 Location: Oak Brook, Illinois |
![]() I got a few parts primed today and finished up the floor rails. I’m not altogether happy with the floor rails, but they look pretty good from a distance!
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Addicted
![]() 86 T5, 71 Sprint, 63 GL
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 625 Location: Oak Brook, Illinois |
![]() Bad bearing?
I did some work on the scooter the past few days, putting primer on front suspension parts, rebuilding a 24.24 carb, and pulling old bearings and seals from the P200 motor. I put the new bearings in the freezer overnight and this morning I heated up the case and started to install the fly side bearing. I used a bearing installer. I saw a very small curled piece of metal on the underside of the bearing as it was about a third of the way in. Uh oh! I pulled the metal curly cue away and finished installing the bearing.
The bearing feels loose and noisy and that small piece of metal definitely came from the bearing. I ordered another bearing, I don’t want to put the motor together and find out the bearing is defective. ![]() |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() 1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 2167 Location: Veria, Greece |
![]() Probably a piece from the cases. If the bearing wasn't going in vertically, it can shave the aluminum and create this piece of "hair". I have experienced this before. Does it stick to a magnet??
And these bearings are a bit noisy when dry... |
Addicted
![]() 86 T5, 71 Sprint, 63 GL
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 625 Location: Oak Brook, Illinois |
![]() There is side to side movement of the bearing cage inside the outer race. I don’t have another bearing to check, but the movement seems excessive. I ordered a new bearing so I’ll be able to compare in few days. And SaFis, you are correct, the “piece of hair” did come from the cases. Not magnetic.
But I did find a review of this bearing on the sellers site, it was in German but I translated it. English “ The needle bearing clearly had too much play in my case, i.e. I could feel the inner ring moving back and forth - which Nadella didn't have. Unfortunately, I did the test after the installation, due to strong noises on the Lima side. The LüRa could also be moved 1-2mm” |
Addicted
![]() 86 T5, 71 Sprint, 63 GL
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 625 Location: Oak Brook, Illinois |
![]() I got the bearings and seals installed in the motor today. Also installed the axle with new cruciform, the gears, input shaft, and the crank! I used a hot plate to heat the cases, and with outside temps just a couple of degrees above zero, I was able to ice the bearings in record time.
The cases are back together now. Also finished painting the front suspension components. I have the clutch plates soaking in oil and hopefully I’ll get that rebuilt and installed tomorrow. Still have front suspension to rebuild, wiring harness and cables to install. Also the headset, stator, flywheel, brakes, shocks, switches......I guess I have a ways to go! The Tech tips section on the Scooter Mercato site has helped a lot. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Addicted
![]() 86 T5, 71 Sprint, 63 GL
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 625 Location: Oak Brook, Illinois |
![]() I had to give up my shop space so my wife could park in the back garage. It’s bitterly cold here in Chicagoland.
So work stopped until tomorrow. I do like the new kickstart lever! ![]() |
Addicted
![]() 86 T5, 71 Sprint, 63 GL
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 625 Location: Oak Brook, Illinois |
![]() I’m waiting for front suspension parts to arrive, so not much to do for the past few days. (Besides shoveling) I did prime the front fender and also did a bit of light sanding on the headset. I don’t want to finish painting the fender until I get holes drilled for the crest and the trim, I’m waiting for the trim to get here too.
I had the chance to look at the horn today and I’m not sure if it’s original to this scooter. It’s a pretty cool looking horn tho, so I’ll use it. ![]() Bachel Genova? ![]() ![]() |
Addicted
![]() ![]() GL, PK, PE200 with hack, Sears Rust Badge
Joined: 24 Apr 2012
Posts: 956 Location: Deep in the heart of Texas |
![]() Except for someone painting it black the horn looks original for the gl’s that came over here.
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Style Maven
![]() ![]() 74 50s x3 78 P200 x2 84 Cosa PK50XL2 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special '66(?) Super125
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 8048 Location: seattle/athens |
![]() I'm impressed! Thanks for making the effort and sharing. This looks like first class work all around.
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Addicted
![]() 86 T5, 71 Sprint, 63 GL
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 625 Location: Oak Brook, Illinois |
![]() Thanks V oodoo!
I finished rebuilding the front suspension this week, it was a pain, with needle bearings falling out and an oversized spring that needed to fit. (That was another thread) thanks to everyone for the help. Also got the new wiring loom installed today. The old one was pristine, it looks new, maybe it is new, either that or this old GL didn’t spend much time outside. I am wondering about “order of operations”, should I install cables first? Or wait until I get the front suspension on? I’ll be cleaning up the center stand and installing that and the rear brake pedal and switch tomorrow. ![]() Old wiring loom ![]() New loom installed ![]() ![]() Test fitted the mudguard. Will install after paint. |
Hooked
![]() 1958 Allstate Super Cruisaire 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 220 Location: Philadelphia |
![]() Cables first, gives you more room to work if the fork isn't installed yet and gives you better access to routing the cables around the horn.
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Addicted
![]() 86 T5, 71 Sprint, 63 GL
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 625 Location: Oak Brook, Illinois |
![]() Slow day today, my lovely wife took the day off, so we went shopping, ( senior hours at Costco!) and I helped around the house.
I did manage to install the brake switch and the pedal. And I cleaned up the center stand and put that on too. The center stand “legs” look a little different than I’m used too. They are angled at the bottoms, maybe worn down? And the bottoms are filled with cement. Other than that, they look fine. ![]() Angled bottoms ![]() Tubes filled with something ![]() Really happy with the condition of the body on this scooter, pretty good for 58 years old |
Molto Verboso
![]() ![]() 79 P200E, 62 Allstate, 2008 Stella
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 1989 Location: Florence, OR |
![]() It's looking good VP - Thanks for the pictures.
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Style Maven
![]() ![]() 74 50s x3 78 P200 x2 84 Cosa PK50XL2 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special '66(?) Super125
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 8048 Location: seattle/athens |
![]() Your centerstand has simply gone for far too long with no proper rubber booties. Buy a set of these, you cheapskate!
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