Dropped something into the case.. Fishing?
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Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:15 pm quote
Let's pretend* I dropped a washer from the clutch cover into the gearbox on my PX engine... What are my chances of catching a fish?

I enjoyed rebuilding the engine, but I'm not delighted at the prospect of splitting it again..
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Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:40 pm quote
three beers with a magnet on string or flexy tool.
mayyyybbbbeeee you get lucky and can get it thru the oil drain?

after that, crack it.

let me tell you a story about a small frame that had, like, half a dozen woodruff keys in the gearbox... spoiler alert, it did not end well.

-g
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Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:03 pm quote
^ what Greasy said.
But! - before you split - if you can't fish - take the motor out - put it on the bench and use gravity and just shake.
If you cant get it to fall out - put it on engine stand - flip it over so you have gravity getting it close to access through clutch - and then fish with a magnet on a coat hanger.
When the magnet falls off and into the case - then go ahead and split.
-CM
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Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:27 pm quote
Dropped a woodruff key and fished it out with one of these... got lucky.

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Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:25 am quote
charlieman22 wrote:
^ what Greasy said.
But! - before you split - if you can't fish - take the motor out - put it on the bench and use gravity and just shake.

-CM
I was weighing up splitting on the bike vs removing the engine and not splitting- I'd imagined the former would be easier... no?
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Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:42 am quote
Personally, Iíd split in the bike quick and dirty if my fishing expedition didnít yield results.

You just put it together so it should come apart quick.

Itís down down and dirty but thatís the route Iíd take after fiddle fucking around for a bit.
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Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:08 am quote
greasy125 wrote:
Personally, Iíd split in the bike quick and dirty if my fishing expedition didnít yield results.

You just put it together so it should come apart quick.

Itís down down and dirty but thatís the route Iíd take after fiddle fucking around for a bit.
Co-sign.

It's a PX; it will come apart from the flywheel side. i'm not even sure i would fiddle with it; maybe hold the engine upside down and see by luck if it drops out near the clutch.
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Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:32 am quote
Did you try taking a video with a phone to see if you can see it? Why are they called phones? Should be a tablet with cellular service.

Used one of these also, might help see it and not knock it further down.


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Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:37 pm quote
I'd never feel comfortable riding without knowing.

That being said, if it were me, I'd split the engine and not find the washer. 2 years later I'd find it on the floor where it rolled away from me. I found a small frame selector ball a couple years after I lost it behind the dryer.

I'd put it back together and curse my luck, but ride with clear conscience.
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