2009 MP3 250ie Smog check California?
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Piaggio MP3 250ie
Joined: 17 Mar 2021
Posts: 3
Location: San Francisco
Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:41 pm quote

I just purchased a 2009 MP3 and I'm confused about the smog requirement. The previous owner didn't have one but when trying to register it online, it says one is now required for title transfers.
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 39463
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:59 am quote
The DMV site has very poor wording. The USA really needs a Plain English Society to independently vet scripts for ambiguity.
Your vehicle does not need a smog inspection if your:

Gasoline-powered vehicle is a 1975 year model or older (This includes motorcycles and trailers.)
Diesel-powered vehicle is a 1997 and older year model OR with a Gross Vehicle Weight of more than 14,000 pounds.
Powered by natural gas and weighs more than 14,000 pounds.
An electric vehicle.
Gasoline-powered and less than eight model-years old.
I have emboldened the ambiguous bit. They really meant that ALL motorcycles and trailers do NOT have to have a SMOG test, not that motorcycles and trailers have to be 1975 or older to qualify for exemption.

Why do they allow school kids to write web-sites.
Piaggio MP3 250ie
Joined: 17 Mar 2021
Posts: 3
Location: San Francisco
Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:27 am quote
Awesome. Yeah what's funny is when you try to transfer it it won't let you without it. So I went to DMV today, 20 minutes and I got my new tags.
2020 MP3 Sport 500 HPE ABS ASR
Joined: 25 Aug 2007
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Location: El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora Reina de los Ángeles sobre el Río Porciúncula
Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:16 am quote
There is some ambiguity in California law about whether an MP3 is a motorcycle or a car. According to the federal Department of Transportation (DOT) it is a motorcycle. But it is apparently possible to ride an MP3 in CA with just a car license.

I got pulled over one time for lane-splitting on the freeway. After a short discussion about how the MP3 is different from, say, a Can-Am Spyder, and a quick look at the DOT plaque on the leg shield which clearly says "Type: motorcycle", we happily parted ways.

Unfortunately, the California lane-splitting law does specify two-wheeled vehicles.
Piaggio MP3 250ie
Joined: 17 Mar 2021
Posts: 3
Location: San Francisco
Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:20 pm quote
It's odd that it doesn't require an M1 but I'm not complaining. You're right about the designation though, it says motorcycle right on the registration.

I already payed my MSC fee for May although I no longer require it. Will do it anyway.
2019 MP3 500 Sport
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Posts: 57
Location: California
Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:06 pm quote
The MP3 attracts attention, so I have had car drivers (this is California) scream at me at an intersection "Do you need a motorcycle license?" to which I answer "It does ride like a motorcycle, so you better get one, I have one".

As far as I know, smog checks aren't yet necessary for motorcycles in California. The manufacturer has to pass the CA rules, and then in theory you're not supposed to touch any emission parts on the bike (chip, mapping, injection, exhaust). Never heard of anyone getting challenged for upgrading their exhaust system unless it gets stupid loud - noise they can get you for.
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