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GTS 300 Super
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Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:30 pm quote
I bought my wife a 2020 GTS 300 Super.

We are traveling to Montana from Delaware this June.

Anything advice on long distance scooter travel?

I have tools for my motorcycle etc., anyone have experience in this?
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Vespa Supertech 2019 (EURO3/APAC)
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Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:37 pm quote
Keep an eye on the engine oil, HPEs consume way more than the old GTS

Stick sun cream on your nose frequently.

Drink crazy amounts of fluid - can't drink too much.
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Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:07 pm quote
Bring a tire repair kit and insect bite pen with you.
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Stella 4T, Vespa GTS 300
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Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:08 am quote
Buy the best breathable rain gear that there is (Gore tex pro), for both of you. Most suits will keep you dry in a cloud burst, but will leak in an short time, making you miserable. Ventilation is also important as you will hit some hot days. I probably have 5 suits and 10 jackets, but once I bought a Klim, I don't wear anything else. Same with all my serious long distance riding friends. They are stupid expensive, but worth every penny.
Make sure your helmet is confortable for those 16 hour days. Hot spots that are annoying after an hour are unbearable torture after the second long day.
Don't overpack. Fight the "I might need".
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Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:20 am quote
For a trip of that mileage, keep an eye on the rear tire. I get nearly 6K miles out o mine, but I've read of people getting less. Best guess is you'll make it fine, but perhaps have a look around your route for possible shops along the way as you near home.
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2007 Vespa 250 GTS
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Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:13 am quote
Minimalist Tool Kit for GTS Touring
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Vespa Supertech 2019 (EURO3/APAC)
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Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:33 pm quote
Sometimes i also carry an OBD2 reader incase the engine light shows.

It did the other day after i dropped my bike in the mud 🛵😀
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'20 300GTS Super Tec '09 250 GTSie '75 Rally 200 '79 P200 '09 Stella 221
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Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:02 pm quote
Purchase good comfortable riding gear that has good abrasion resistance and is highly visible in all light conditions. Klim does make good gear, but my go to is Areostich Darian Light Jacket and keep their Darien pants with me for heavy showers. I also wear Klim riding jeans which have excellent abrasion resistance and armor in key areas like the jacket I spoke of. Gloves, riding boots and a good helmet that has good visibility, is comfortable and not awfully heavy. A communication system is also useful and knocks down the boredom when riding great distances, and allows communication should someone experience bike trouble, need gas or want to stop for food or take a potty break. Carry a good cloth and glass cleaner to keep your visor and lights clean as well. Spending a little money on your gear will make your ride safer, more comfortable and will keep you from fatiguing as quickly, and could save your life. Don't scrimp on your gear.
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2020 GTS 300 HPE
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Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:29 pm quote
All the mechanical tips are good. As a 5 decade married guy (and been riding motorcycles even longer), I'm going to suggest what is really important: make sure your wife is VERY comfortable with the scoot. Get her a lot of practice on it in the next two months. If she is an experienced long distance rider, feel free to ignore me; if she isn't, riding from the east coast to Montana is a big undertaking. Especially on a 300cc machine. How does that match up to the motorcycle you are riding?

Moteling it or motorcycle camping? How many miles per day do you anticipate? How many hours per day of riding are you both up to?

In our younger years, on full-dress bikes, my wife and I could knock off a 500 mile day while riding... but even then, we needed some time for local exploring before another long riding day. How much time do you have set aside for this trip?

I ride a 2020 GTS HPE, and I am definitely a "live to ride, ride to live" kinda guy... but I am sure not up to the equivalence of 2/3 of a Scooter Cannonball kinda run in a short period... and then back again.

Prepping the scoot is easier than prepping a butt for 4,000+ miles.

Tell us a bit more about the plan and we'll be up for some more suggestions. Sounds like a potentially fun adventure.
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GTS 300 SuperSport (Growley)
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Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:53 pm quote
Do a 300-400 miler to make sure that you are absolutely sure this is what you want to do.
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Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:02 pm quote
Captain Jim wrote:
All the mechanical tips are good. As a 5 decade married guy (and been riding motorcycles even longer), I'm going to suggest what is really important: make sure your wife is VERY comfortable with the scoot. Get her a lot of practice on it in the next two months. If she is an experienced long distance rider, feel free to ignore me; if she isn't, riding from the east coast to Montana is a big undertaking. Especially on a 300cc machine. How does that match up to the motorcycle you are riding?

Moteling it or motorcycle camping? How many miles per day do you anticipate? How many hours per day of riding are you both up to?

In our younger years, on full-dress bikes, my wife and I could knock off a 500 mile day while riding... but even then, we needed some time for local exploring before another long riding day. How much time do you have set aside for this trip?

I ride a 2020 GTS HPE, and I am definitely a "live to ride, ride to live" kinda guy... but I am sure not up to the equivalence of 2/3 of a Scooter Cannonball kinda run in a short period... and then back again.



Prepping the scoot is easier than prepping a butt for 4,000+ miles.

Tell us a bit more about the plan and we'll be up for some more suggestions. Sounds like a potentially fun adventure.
Agreed. I have several BMW bikes and have done 500 + mile days, but you really need to be committed to do so. I've done 350 mile days on my GTS, but not back to back. Worse thing about the GTS is ability to carry gear for a long trip. Be prepared to wear clothing items for days on end. I'm a pro at doing laundry in a hotel room lavatory
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2012 GTS 300 Super (Charlene) 1832cc cruiser (The Lambo)
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Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:39 pm quote
Klim ✔️
Comms ✔️
Goretex ✔️
Comfortable helmet ✔️
Tools & tire plug kit ✔️
Daily mileage flexibility ✔️
Stop & smell the roses ✔️
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2020 GTS 300 HPE
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Location: San Francisco
Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:41 pm quote
I like to keep a CamelBak under my seat, so I always have water handy, and I have a daypack ready for spontaneous hikes/exploring.

I also keep a small bottle of soap with me when I tour. I might clean my visor every couple weeks at home, but multiple times per day on tour. You wanna be able to duck into any public bathroom and clean your visor when it's inevitably covered in dust and bugs while you're riding straight into the sunset. Method hand soap is a good choice: it's pH neutral and the scent is mild. I've made the mistake of using hotel body wash, and then my helmet reeks of whatever floral scent they chose for the rest of the day.
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Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:59 pm quote
Credit card and AAA membership.
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Sun Apr 04, 2021 3:01 am quote
Done right long distance scooter travel is ok and can be fun---right right gear(mine Aero stich) waterproof boots (Wolverine)ear plugs---since Vespa has no national dealer network in N. America be prepared to fix stuff your self.

Vespa great for me----front luggage rack, space on front hump for stuff, look for right rear box rack combo---GIVI works for me---back rest for passenger.

Bad=gas tank small. No longer spare tire and wheel. Are they as reliable as Japanese stuff?

Good--- can be made Buffet Free with right windshield!! Look over rather than thru. fun
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Gts 300 notte
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Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:01 pm quote
look up "motorcycle throttle helper". for long rides these are HEAVEN. takes all the strain out of your hand and fingers....

oh and also an "airhawk" seat
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Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:38 am quote
Sledge wrote:
Credit card and AAA membership.
And a cell phone.
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Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:04 pm quote
kz1000ST wrote:
Sledge wrote:
Credit card and AAA membership.
And a cell phone.
Huawei?
I have a P30.
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2020 GTS300 HPE
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Location: Marshall MO USA
Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:55 am quote
going west on the scoots
Take warm stuff! Really. And it will be windy and beautiful. I have been out west and froze in late July/Aug (Sturgis) Is time an issue?? I think backroads would be fun. And crosswinds can be really strong. duh. I bet you knew.
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Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:47 pm quote
Lots of good advice in this thread. Comfort will be a big issue. Airhawk on the seat is a big improvement (size medium will do). Take some longer day trips prior to setting out as "training". Proper riding gear and rain gear will be essential. Be prepared for temps 40-110, any elevation changes > 3000 feet can result in significant temp changes.

There are good Vespa shops in Chicago, Minneapolis, Portland and Denver. That area of the country is not Vespa country. Carry an extra belt and the tools to change it - lots of good youtube vids to carry you through.

Good luck and post pics of your journey!
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2012 GTS 300 Super (Charlene) 1832cc cruiser (The Lambo)
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Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:18 pm quote
Yeah, warm stuff...
On a motorcycle ride to Crater Lake, OR in July a freak snow storm hit the area around the lake. Wife on the back of my motorcycle was freezing. Stopped at the gift shop...in July...looking for a jacket, hoodie, etc...nothing in stock because...it was July. Only thing they had was Pendleton wool blankets. The only one I liked was darn near $300. Wrapped her up and headed down the hill. Moral of the story...warmth is everyone’s friend.
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Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:40 pm quote
PapaWheelie wrote:
Yeah, warm stuff...
On a motorcycle ride to Crater Lake, OR in July a freak snow storm hit the area around the lake. Wife on the back of my motorcycle was freezing. Stopped at the gift shop...in July...looking for a jacket, hoodie, etc...nothing in stock because...it was July. Only thing they had was Pendleton wool blankets. The only one I liked was darn near $300. Wrapped her up and headed down the hill. Moral of the story...warmth is everyone’s friend.
There are thermal jackets that are used in ambulances for emergency cases, they are also reflective. The advantage is that they are contained in small bags that do not take up much space.
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2020 GTS 300 HPE
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Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:04 pm quote
The only time I've ever been to the Grand Canyon was the end of May. It was nearly 90F at our campsite in Hurricane UT. By the time we got to the Canyon, it was snowing. Looked like that white void they shoot commercials in. I still haven't seen the Grand Canyon.
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Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:36 pm quote
I think the Vespa 250/300s are very underrated for distance travel. I’ve done about 10 camping trips with my Pav trailer setup and regularly do 300 km days on mostly secondary roads where I can enjoy the ride. I swear by the air hawk cushion as comfort is key.

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Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:14 am quote
You need to be prepared for a transmission belt change.

I've had 2 belts go on far shorter journeys than Delaware to Montana!

Have you got a variator holding tool?
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Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:36 am quote
Kevin Dean wrote:
I think the Vespa 250/300s are very underrated for distance travel. I’ve done about 10 camping trips with my Pav trailer setup and regularly do 300 km days on mostly secondary roads where I can enjoy the ride. I swear by the air hawk cushion as comfort is key.
What maximum capacity (pounds) does the cart have behind?
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Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:47 am quote
Good GPS or Cell App with weather overlay for those summer time storms...
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Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:00 am quote
AvbIz wrote:
Good GPS or Cell App with weather overlay for those summer time storms...
I have a doubt ... but also a reflection, is it not that the Vespa, being made entirely of metal, attracts lightning ..?
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Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:01 am quote
Fly instead/
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Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:04 am quote
boraxman wrote:
Fly instead/
Good answer.
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Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:51 am quote
Attila wrote:
AvbIz wrote:
Good GPS or Cell App with weather overlay for those summer time storms...
I have a doubt ... but also a reflection, is it not that the Vespa, being made entirely of metal, attracts lightning ..?
No. If lightning can bridge an insulating gap of miles and miles of air (which is a great insulator), it is not going to care what your vehicle is made of. Just stay out of its way
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Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:25 am quote
steelbytes wrote:
Sometimes i also carry an OBD2 reader incase the engine light shows.
Do you have the decoding information for your scooter? I thought only approved dealers had that info?

Would love to find out I'm wrong!
Kim
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Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:49 am quote
KimPossible wrote:
steelbytes wrote:
Sometimes i also carry an OBD2 reader incase the engine light shows.
Do you have the decoding information for your scooter? I thought only approved dealers had that info?

Would love to find out I'm wrong!
Kim
See:
DIY Diagnostic tool for injection Vespa's with MIU ECU
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Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:03 pm quote
jimc wrote:
KimPossible wrote:
steelbytes wrote:
Sometimes i also carry an OBD2 reader incase the engine light shows.
Do you have the decoding information for your scooter? I thought only approved dealers had that info?

Would love to find out I'm wrong!
Kim
See:
DIY Diagnostic tool for injection Vespa's with MIU ECU
Thanks! I completely missed that.
Kim
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Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:59 pm quote
Very Ambitious Extended Ride
I could not completely determine the vehicles involved. You are riding
a motorcycle, your wife the 300 GTS?

What are your mile goals per day?

Will you camp or hotel at night?

Are you going to use secondary roads or freeways the most?

Inquiring minds want to know?

Bob Copeland
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Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:22 pm quote
KimPossible wrote:
jimc wrote:
KimPossible wrote:
steelbytes wrote:
Sometimes i also carry an OBD2 reader incase the engine light shows.
Do you have the decoding information for your scooter? I thought only approved dealers had that info?

Would love to find out I'm wrong!
Kim
See:
DIY Diagnostic tool for injection Vespa's with MIU ECU
Thanks! I completely missed that.
Kim
that old post does not apply to new HPE GTS. I'll make a new post with the details How to read Engine Codes
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Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:14 pm quote
My 300 is a 2012, so the old post is what I'll need to do. Thanks you very much for posting it, this is great.
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:28 am quote
Are there coyotes?

From what i see in american movies it seems that they are everywhere ...
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:40 am quote
Looks like the OP posted once, then disappeared. I'm guessing he wasn't expecting helpful answers, or his Mom told him to finish his homework and go to bed. Yeah, just kidding.

My first thought was "bought my wife a Vespa" which is a lot different from "my wife wants to ride her own bike, so we picked out a Vespa for her." If she hasn't been a rider previously, she should take a MSF new rider course, then get in a lot of practice before attempting a long distance trip.
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