250 vs 300 $$$!
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:05 am quote
So, Iíve got a line on two used Vespas: a 2009 GTS 250 and a 2018 Sei Giorni. This would be my first Vespa, but not my first 2-wheeler by far.

Both are well maintained and have close to the same mileage (around 7,000 miles). Major service done on both, and hinky fuel pump replaced on the 250.

Both are stock. The Sei Giorni has a top case, but Iíd probably try to sell that as I donít care for the look.

Both appear to be priced reasonably compared to KBB and NADAóactually, looking at the book values, the Sei Giorni is priced at more of a ďvalueĒóbut thereís a $2k price difference between the two.

In your opinion, is the Sei Giorni worth $2,000 more than the 250?

I love the look of the Sei Giorni. Itís 9 years newer. And it has a bigger engine. BUT, itís only 30cc bigger. The 250s are quite reliable, from what Iíve read. And that extra $2k would be really stretching my budget (and my spouseís tolerance of my 2 wheel addiction).

Thoughts?
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:54 am quote
You're not going to see a huge performance difference, IMO. You'll get a bit back from selling the topcase (though they are handy). The 250 may have issues with dated rubber (tires, belt) that may close the gap as well.
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:12 am quote
The '18 Sei Giorni has ABS and ASR as well as being a special edition and 9 years newer. It would certainly be worth an additional $2000 to me. If those differences aren't important to you, then the '09 may be fine.
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:12 am quote
fledermaus wrote:
You're not going to see a huge performance difference, IMO. You'll get a bit back from selling the topcase (though they are handy). The 250 may have issues with dated rubber (tires, belt) that may close the gap as well.
I'd go for the 300, just because of looks, engine size will make a difference, and perceived reliability...

If the 2k is causing a financial issue, then 100% choose the 250, nothing wrong with it...
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:06 am quote
Dooglas wrote:
The '18 Sei Giorni has ABS and ASR...
Iím pretty sure the 2018 Sei Giorni only has ABS, not ASR. Which is fine with me actually, as Iím fine with ABS, but still unsure if Iíd like the ASR.
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:10 am quote
fledermaus wrote:
You're not going to see a huge performance difference, IMO. You'll get a bit back from selling the topcase (though they are handy). The 250 may have issues with dated rubber (tires, belt) that may close the gap as well.
The belt and tires are fairly new on both scooters (around 2,000 miles ago for both).

I wasnít sure how much I could get for the top case as itís the matte green color that was only offered for a couple years. Depending on how difficult it is to mount/unmount, Iíd maybe keep it around for occasional use.
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:24 pm quote
not close for me. the 300 is far more peppy off the line and coming out of corner. front shock is better. the sei giorno is my favorite looking vespa ever offered. abs. its worth the price difference to me.
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:55 pm quote
Have a look at 'Pinkscooter's' posting re: Robots recommendation on replacing fuel line hoses on older models.
It might help your decision.
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:16 pm quote
I've had a 250ie (2009) and currently have a 2020 300 HPE. The 250 was a great bike - ran good, gave me excellent fuel mileage. The ride on the 300 is better, ABS is a big plus (even if you only use it "that one time"), and don't discount the value of a top case. It was one of the first things I bought when I got the 2009 (transferred it over to the 2020) because you cannot fit a full-face (or even a 3/4 size) helmet under the seat. The look will grow on you due to the function and practicality.

Last point: nine years newer on everything that isn't a normal maintenance item.

My first choice would be the 2018. If that doesn't work out, I wouldn't be concerned about getting the 2009, IF it has had regular maintenance.

I only have about 1,400 miles on my 2020, but it is currently getting about 15 mpg less than my 2009 250. I'm expecting that to get better as this new one opens up.

With only $2k difference, I'd be going for the 2018.

Good luck with your decision. I spent nearly 5 decades on motorcycles before making a switch to scooters. No regrets - these fun, easy rides are a blast!
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:42 pm quote
I had a 2009 GTV 250, Portifino Green - fabulous color. It got totaled with 19K miles on it after 11 years. I loved it and it was heart-wrenching watching it get towed away. One thing I did that made a HUGE difference was using Dr. Pulley sliders that were recommended by Scooter west (I don't remember the weights). The new sliders made the bike as peppy as the 2010 300. I was quite happy with the 250.

Only problem I had was coil-to-spark wire was known to be too short and it pulled out. Fortunately, the dealer replaced it for me for free. Otherwise, I had no problems. I did my own maintenance for years after the dealer closed and it was easy.

I was also unsure about the OEM top case but decided I wanted the storage to haul stuff when needed. It became really handy, especially for storing my full face helmet which doesn't fit under the seat.

I've never been on a 2018 300 so don't know how the ride compares.

Best of luck with the decision.
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:08 pm quote
Two years ago I had a friend buy a splendid used Vespa 250 with a few thousand kilometers (2800) because the price was much lower than a more recent 300 but with 18,000 km and a much higher price.
Well, still today he thanks me for the excellent deal received and (obviously) he is very satisfied.
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Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:26 pm quote
Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately, my heat pump just died, so I have to let both scooters go. Iíll be back in the market after I get our HVAC sorted out.
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