Italy by Vespa
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:08 pm quote
Anyone ever gone on a tour with this company?

http://www.italybyvespa.com/
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:46 pm quote
This looks fabulous, but pricy! I wish they had a slimmed down version of the tour with a less fancy hotel and a little more freedom of venue. A nice Agriturismo would be adequate accomodation and a lot cheaper.

However, if I could rule out money... this would be close to heaven!
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:57 pm quote
Re: Italy by Vespa
Len Smith wrote:
Anyone ever gone on a tour with this company?

http://www.italybyvespa.com/
No but from people I have talked to that have done it say, It was not that great for the money spent.
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:16 pm quote
From what the dealer told me, they put you on 50cc bikes.
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:28 pm quote
The website said their either LX150s or ET4s. That should provide for some very nice touring!

Now, the fact that you could buy a brand new ET4, ride 2 up and have several thousand dollars for hotel accomodations etc. is interesting!
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:40 pm quote
lomunchi, check out www.charnestours.com they have scooter tours of Tuscany. They also have a Cinque Terre Hiking Tour (which I'm considering)
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:33 pm quote
Italy by Vespa
I don't know about the tour company, but here's what I did a few years ago:

Bought a PX200 Vespa in London from a dealer, over the internet.
Drove it through France, Spain, Corsica, Italy and Greece (with ferries when necessary!) Then did a similar but different route back to London. Sold the Vespa and flew home (OK, it wasn't quite that easy ...)
Stayed mostly in Hostels and had a great time.
Spent very little money (except for the Vespa), had the freedom to come and go as I pleased. Spent seven weeks.

My advice: Forget the tour company and do it on your own. Just be sure you know a little Vespa maintenance.

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Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:35 pm quote
Check this company out.

It's run by Susan Day who is an owner Scooter Centrale/Vespa Hartford in CT. They've been doing Bicycle tours of Italy for years. They have lots of experience and connections in Italy. I'd trust them for a great tour.

www.duecanitours.com

Chris
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:39 pm quote
Maybe we should have a Modern Vespa group going next year....
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:11 pm quote
Put my name on the list for the Modern Vespa tour. I'm still trying to work Euro Vespa into my schedule.
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:58 pm quote
Len Smith wrote:
Maybe we should have a Modern Vespa group going next year....
'Now we're talking! But how do we get our scoots over there!
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:38 pm quote
It's been a long time since I looked into it, but it used to be that you could buy a vehicle in europe, travel with it and then ship it back to the USA as a used vehicle and greatly reduce the customs duty. Is this still true or have the rules changed? Might consider buying a new Vespa there.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:20 am quote
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It's been a long time since I looked into it, but it used to be that you could buy a vehicle in europe, travel with it and then ship it back to the USA as a used vehicle and greatly reduce the customs duty. Is this still true or have the rules changed? Might consider buying a new Vespa there.
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Be very careful! First, the vehicle has to be DOT and EPA homologated for use in the US. If you have to prove its approval, it could cost big bucks and be all-but-impossible. Second, for example, I think only PiaggioUSA may "import" Vespas into the US ... I know I tried last year to find a way to buy one overseas and bring it home, and got no help from them at all, despite numerous requests for assistance. Their answer was this: buy it here, ship it there and ride it, then ship it home. Gee, thanks for nothing.
On the other hand, many 40wheel vehicle manufacturers make it very easy to do this; Volvo, for one, gives you a big discount on purchase price, gives you airfare from the US to Europe, pays for the insurance on your vehicle for two weeks, then flies you home and ships the new car to your home. No charge for any of this ... did I mention the discount?
But when I asked Vespa to just let me buy it there and bring it here ... nada, nothing, zip.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:03 am quote
I actually asked Piaggio about developing a program like this, maybe in conjunction with Eurovespa. Allow someone to purchase a Vespa from a dealer here in the US, ride it around in Italy, have a plant tour, go to Amerivespa, etc. then ship it home to the dealer it was bought through. they e-mailed me later saying they were looking into a program like this.

Now that I have my GT, I wouldn't be buying another one (since I don't need two) but it seems like it could be a good business deal for them, but maybe the market is too small, I dunno.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:38 am quote
as for Italy by Vespa...a waste of money run by a not so trustworthy guy(he knows why i say this)...
as for a trip..i'm taking 10 customers on a tour in May on Vespas...since i lived there during my Superbike days, i have alot of friends and know my way around. so wwe'll be jetting(well, riding) all around the country..Milan,Varese, Como,Genoa,Portafino, San Remo, and Monte Carlo.....who's in for the next adventure? ...you provide airfare and it's about $2500...for 10 days.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:46 am quote
Bobby,

When is the next adventure?

Len
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:43 am quote
I'm in
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:53 am quote
Damn Scooterbobby! I am in also!! That sounds awesome.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:57 am quote
Hey, wait for me.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:35 am quote
Now the problem I see for most of you folks is that you'd get there, get a rental, and the first city you hit you'd be replacing the shocks and the exhaust and adding seat covers and painting and detailing.....
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:44 am quote
GREAT!!! They'd be tinkering by the first coffee break!
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:47 am quote
I looked at their tours as well. The things I saw that were lacking were first and foremost, flexibility. Next, they're missing the pilgrimage to Pontadera for the Vespa museum tour. I could not go to Italy without doing that! It would be sacrilege.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:48 am quote
And whats wrong with that?
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:49 am quote
Scoots wrote:
GREAT!!! They'd be tinkering by the first coffee break!
aah that would be Espresso Break. And remember,you pay for it first then take the ticket to the Barista.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:59 am quote
Len Smith wrote:
I actually asked Piaggio about developing a program like this, maybe in conjunction with Eurovespa. Allow someone to purchase a Vespa from a dealer here in the US, ride it around in Italy, have a plant tour, go to Amerivespa, etc. then ship it home to the dealer it was bought through. they e-mailed me later saying they were looking into a program like this.

Now that I have my GT, I wouldn't be buying another one (since I don't need two) but it seems like it could be a good business deal for them, but maybe the market is too small, I dunno.
I think I saw something like this done a while back with Ducati. Dont remember if you bought it from a dealer here in the states, or if you bought a US approved bike there. Then you rode it around for a week or so and then to a port and dropped it off for shippment back to the states.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:04 pm quote
alas...at this time Piaggio has no "european delivery" program...
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:10 pm quote
stldon wrote:
lomunchi, check out www.charnestours.com they have scooter tours of Tuscany. They also have a Cinque Terre Hiking Tour (which I'm considering)
Cinque Terre's easy to do without booking a tour...fly into Genoa and get the train to Riomaggiore, just book the lot over the interweb. You can do the walk in one day, or take it easy and do it in two or three using the train to hop up and down. What's Italian for "piece of cake"?
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:18 pm quote
lomunchi wrote:
Now the problem I see for most of you folks is that you'd get there, get a rental, and the first city you hit you'd be replacing the shocks and the exhaust and adding seat covers and painting and detailing.....
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:41 pm quote
I am up for it

I was in Italy last year for 3 months.

It was almost impossible to buy a new Vespa there as an US citizen and really impossible to buy a vintage (or Classic) Vespa. In fact, there is actually a law about non-Italians buying old Vespa Scooters and taking them out of Italy.

Only way I know is to rent or get an Italian to buy it for you or be Italian.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:36 pm quote
Italy is EASY!!! on your own
I agree with a couple of the other posters on this topic. Italy is easy to get around in, locals/travelers are friendly and easy to meet and love to show you around. My favorite experience EVER (which included my first Vespa ride!!) was in Florence, on my own.

The itenirary of the trip looks awesome, although it should be 3-4 weeks longer, at a minimum, in order to enjoy a tiny part of each place you come across. And I TOTALLY recommend the cinca terra (sp), 4 days on my trip was waaaaaaaaayyyyyy too short. And i hadn't even encountered a Vespa yet.

Damn, now I'm gonna have to start planning a trip - South America anyone? Scooter stylie?
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