Question About Rear Chrome Crash Bars for GTS
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Molto Verboso
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Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:52 pm quote
I'm thinking about putting some chrome on the bike. The Faco bars are out because they are only a single bar. Cuppini is nice but I like the way the Piaggio bars go up in the back and attach. I am wondering if there is a brand of chrome that will look great and attach without me having to take off the rear reflectors? Also, I saw someone post a video online that showed taking off the whole bottom half (the plastic part) of the cowls to put on the bars. Is this the case with all of them or do some just mount without taking the bike apart. I can get them installed at my local shop but didn't want to shell out about $600 for the whole kit when all I want is the rear bars and maybe the front double bar for the front fender.
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Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:23 pm quote
Sorry, what's your question?
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Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:45 pm quote
Re: Question About Rear Chrome Crash Bars for GTS
Ah, okay...let's break it down

-I am wondering if there is a brand of chrome that will look great and attach without me having to take off the rear reflectors?

-Also, I saw someone post a video online that showed taking off the whole bottom half (the plastic part) of the cowls to put on the bars. Is this the case with all of them or do some just mount without taking the bike apart.

-I can get them installed at my local shop but didn't want to shell out about $600 for the whole kit when all I want is the rear bars and maybe the front double bar for the front fender.

My advice would be to buy what you want and get it installed by the local shop. It's like saying shazam and then you just give them money afterwards. Works for me.

You don't have to buy the whole kit, just buy the rear crashbars. The shop can then take the bits offf that you don't want to and put it back together again. You don't have to take the WHOLE scooter apart.

Any crashbars that are not bolted on to the frame (if such a thing exists) are going to be decorative only and completely useless to you in a bingle.
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Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:57 pm quote
I just installed the rear crash bars from the Piaggio "Full Chrome" kit yesterday. Installation was simplicity itself and removal of the cowl side reflectors or lower cowl plastic pieces was not required.
There is a bracket that clamps crossways under the rear of the floorboards that is quiet rigid. The front of the crashbars attach to this bracket and the rear is attached where the grab handles under the seat were attached. It was about a 15 minute operation.
Motorsport Scooters has the full kit on clearance at $399 - crash bars, front and rear carriers, and front fender protector (which will require reflector removal).

FullChrome.JPG

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:27 pm quote
The Piaggio rear crash bars don't require the removal of the reflector. The chrome is of good quality, too; better than the Faco or Cuppini, IMHO.
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:29 pm quote
Neither the Piaggio or Vespa rear crash bars requires removal of the side reflectors.
Molto Verboso
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:47 pm quote
Rear Crash Bars
mongoose wrote:
The Piaggio rear crash bars don't require the removal of the reflector. The chrome is of good quality, too; better than the Faco or Cuppini, IMHO.
If you look at the kit for $399 on sale at Motorsport Scooters, it doesn't say anything about removing rear reflectors. However, the bars that state they are for the GTS (which would or would not be different from the GT200) state that rear reflector removal is required (see Part Number: GTS12P).
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:26 pm quote
The GT and GTS have different lower rear cowls and rear end panels, so the mounting is different.

Here are the Piaggio bars on my bike.



As you can see, the reflector is still there and in the original location.
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Sat May 31, 2008 1:10 am quote
Rear bars
Can the rear guards be mounted further out? Away
from the cowling about 3-4 inches total? That way I
could remove the lower cover without any problems.
I like the Piaggio crash guards the best.
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Sat May 31, 2008 4:05 am quote
I don't know how you would be able to do that without some significant modification. The Piaggio bars are designed to connect to each other over the brake light.
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Sat May 31, 2008 5:36 am quote
Yup, no need to remove the reflectors for the piaggio bars.
Here's another pic... 2007 GTS


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Sat May 31, 2008 5:42 am quote
d2mini wrote:
Love the red radiator fins....
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Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:13 am quote
I just installed some on my GT. I think I did it right, but I wanted to make sure... Do the bars come out further away from the cowls more towards the front of the scooter? Thanks.
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Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:18 am quote
Faco chrome bars - GTS/GT60
Hi,

wondering if the Faco rear chrome bars are good/comfy foot rests for passengers or if it is too close to the cowl. Any one with the Faco's care to comment?
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Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:29 pm quote
I have the Piaggio Vespa oem bars,
They are much easier to install and are away from the body more,
Which come in handy at shopping plaza parking lots and wayward shopping carts.

Working the centre stand after installation take some getting used to,
But once you've learned the knack, You won't look back.

They look really nice too, I like the way they follow and protect the tail light.

IMG_3988b.jpg



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Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:50 pm quote
No need to remove the reflector






These are the Vespa OEM crash bars,
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Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:18 am quote
I know you said Faco was out, but wanted to give you another perspective. Yes single bar with double bar in back, and you can keep your reflectors on as well.

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Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:39 am quote
Does FACO make rear crash bars for a GTS300 Super?

Are they just sturdy as the Vespa OEM? The Vespa wrap up teh backside, so does that help displace the impact of hitting the ground?

I kind of like the FACO, if they are just as sturdy...
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:12 am quote
snowtires wrote:
Does FACO make rear crash bars for a GTS300 Super?
Any rear bars that fit the regular GTS 250 will fit the 300 Super.
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:42 am quote
Rear bars
The OEM bars will give you the most protection in the event of the bike falling over.
You can order just the rear bars Piaggio# 602960m
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:44 pm quote
ordered the OEM crash bar.. cnt wait to fix it on....

From here, i learn that fixing the chrome bars can be A DIY thingy..
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:46 pm quote
Anybody have the instructions for installing the Vespa bars?
Molto Verboso
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Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:23 am quote
These were for the LX/V but give you an idea.

D/l the pic and zoom it up.

Rear crash bar fitting (Medium).jpg

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Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:32 am quote
I think these bars look great and really stand out, but would they offer much protection to the frame/panel if I came off, or are they just for looks really?
anyone got first hand experience?
ps hope you were ok if you came off
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Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:55 am quote
Depending on the drop they can help protect the cowl paintwork. Have a look at the various crash bar/cowl protector threads for some real life experiences.

So far, touch wood.....
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Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:48 am quote
I have the Vespa bars, which I like because as mentioned before they leave a bit more space between the cowls and the bars and that seems to me would protect a bit more (admittedly, i have zero evidence to prove this point). I know some people dislike them for the same reason, because they stick out more.

Since putting them on, I once dropped the bike slowly on rough gravel as my driveway was being repaved and the centerstand sank in the gravel on one side - no damage whatsoever, other than a couple minor scratches on the bar itself. Paid themselves right there.

turq77: yes, they come out a bit more in front as they bend in and below the floorboard.
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Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:27 pm quote
I also have the Vespa bars, and can also confirm that in a slow-speed crash or drop, they'll more than pay for themselves. The cost of a professional repair of the damage my GTV would have suffered without them is way more than the cost of the bars themselves.

As far as a major or high speed accident, every situation varies. But for slower speed incidents (which are more common), they usually seem to help.
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Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:26 pm quote
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crazyinnyc wrote:
Anybody have the instructions for installing the Vespa bars?
Just make sure you put a blanket down on the rear of the bike so as not to scratch the paint when installing them...just my 2c worth.
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Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:30 pm quote
Witch wrote:
I also have the Vespa bars, and can also confirm that in a
slow-speed crash or drop, they'll more than pay for themselves. The cost
of a professional repair of the damage my GTV would have suffered
without them is way more than the cost of the bars themselves.
As far as a major or high speed accident, every situation varies. But for
slower speed incidents (which are more common), they usually seem to
help.
Oh how true. I also have Vespa rear crash bars, an hour after they were
attached I had an accident and nothing happened to the scooter, no
scratches or bumps!

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Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:13 pm quote
GTS front crashbars
Here a couple of photo's of the PX front crashbars on Greg's GTS.
They were put on at Massimo's Vespa Shop today.





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Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:54 pm quote
where can you get a set of front crash bars?
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Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:32 pm quote
My Scoot looks very nice. Rear Crash bars are in route. I got those from Max @ Scooterwest.

http://www.scooterwest.com/items/?_pageCCS=t#page=/item_details/PX-Cuppini-Front-Bars/1697
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Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:49 pm quote
GTS rear protection bars
Just got the GTS 300 and want to put the OES bars on it but not at the expense of losing performance. Anybody know how much they weigh? Anyone added them and found a difference in speed/acceleration?
Any feedback gratefully awaited..........[/u]
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Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:03 pm quote
Re: GTS rear protection bars
tagwhyte wrote:
Just got the GTS 300 and want to put the OES bars on it but not at the expense of losing performance. Anybody know how much they weigh? Anyone added them and found a difference in speed/acceleration?
Any feedback gratefully awaited..........[/u]
They only weigh a few pounds, they are light steel. Won't affect performance at all but sure will provide protection if the scoot goes down. Without going into specifics my GTS300 flies ! I highly recommend these to any Vespa owner.

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Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:01 pm quote
Re: GTS front crashbars
erich51 wrote:
Here a couple of photo's of the PX front crashbars on Greg's GTS.
They were put on at Massimo's Vespa Shop today.





Where did you get the front mud-guard chrome protection? Could you supply a little more info on the make and modle of the front crashbars? It all looks GREAT!!! Thanks
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