Using the Modern Vespa search function:
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Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:32 am quote
I've amended the original post to include your feedback; Thanks!

One of the quickest ways of answering your Modern (and some Vintage) Vespa questions is to learn to use the search functions effectively.
Here’s an important tip:
in the Search panel under the Search box there's two buttons- they're normally set to search for ANY of the words you type in.
Click on the 'Search for all terms' button to set the search for posts containing ALL the words you've entered.

Here's a tutorial for learning the Forums Search features.

1. Just under the Modern Vespa target there's a line of links, the third one being the 'Search' feature. click on it.

2. On the Search page there's two panels; the upper Search Query and the lower Search Options.

3. In the Upper panel the Search Query box is used for Searching for the words or phrases you'll interested in. NOTE; there are two buttons below the keyword search box. The default setting 'Search for any terms or use query as entered' returns ANY messages containing ANY of the words you typed in. The second button 'Search for all terms' returns only those posts containing ALL the words you've used.

4. The lower panel in the Search Query box is used for Searching for Authors: you can search for Keywords and Authors in the same query.

5. The Search Options panel allows you to choose Which Forum to search or search All the forums (upper left of the panel), or what class or Category to search in (Forums, Classifieds or Reference) as drop down menus. finally the two lower left buttons allows you to display the results as single posts (Posts) or message threads (Topics)

6. The right side of the Search Options panel allows to (from upper to lower);

• Search all posts or limit them by time.
• the next buttons allow Search all the post, just the titles or just the messages.
• Search by post: time, post subject, title topic or author or forum; Title topic brings up fewer hits (easy to look though)
• the next buttons allow sorting in Ascending or Descending order
• The Return first (drop down menu) characters of posts works to show part the message body when the lower left Display results as: Posts is selected.

Finally; Start the Search using the lower central Search box.


Results:

Tip: Right clicking (or Ctrl clicking on Mac laptops) on the results the will open the posts in a new tab, allowing for easier scanning of the results.

Internet Explorer:
Clicking on a searched thread in Internet Explorer opens that thread in the original window. This loses the search results, forcing the users to do repeated searches. Internet Explorer users are advised to right click on interesting threads and use Open in New Tab command. This leaves the original search results available.

Using Google & How to search for an exact phrase:
You can use google to search in the modern vespa site (this limits you to information posted prior to the last time google scanned the forum) by adding site:www.modernvespa.com after your search term. In Google you can contain the phrase you're searching for in "quotations". Note the quotations feature doesn't work for the forum's search function.
For example try searching for "custom paint job" on the forum; the first hit is about a custom seat looking good with a paint job.
Now try Google "custom paint job" site:www.modernvespa.com the first hit is Modern Vespa : Fuoco Custom Paint Job


Regards
from Ottawa
Harvey

Last edited by Harvey on Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:21 pm; edited 3 times in total
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Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:48 pm quote
I sincerely think that the skillset most valuable in the future is going to be the ability to search and sort for data. There's so much available that wasn't possible for past generations that it's too much to manage. It's not just the technical details of how to use google etc. It's the way of thinking about topics etc that allow you to find words and phrases that both sort out the crap and bring the ideas you want to the top... OK, so this is a bit of a lecture but I think if you can figure out any way to teach your kids to do this, that would be the skill to pass on. I seem to be more able to find what I want than many of my friends/peers but I can't explain to someone how I think about how I search or dig/burrow through data to get what I want. I totally lack the ability to explain it though I really wish I could. I'm hoping my kid's generation is more adept than past generations since they're the first ones to grow up with this mass of information.

Somehow, I get a strange feeling that Deborah (PDX) would hold the secret to pass this along to her students... I can't explain why but there's just something about that girl!
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Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:46 am quote
lomunchi wrote:
I sincerely think that the skillset most valuable in the future is going to be the ability to search and sort for data. There's so much available that wasn't possible for past generations that it's too much to manage. It's not just the technical details of how to use google etc. It's the way of thinking about topics etc that allow you to find words and phrases that both sort out the crap and bring the ideas you want to the top... OK, so this is a bit of a lecture but I think if you can figure out any way to teach your kids to do this, that would be the skill to pass on. I seem to be more able to find what I want than many of my friends/peers but I can't explain to someone how I think about how I search or dig/burrow through data to get what I want. I totally lack the ability to explain it though I really wish I could. I'm hoping my kid's generation is more adept than past generations since they're the first ones to grow up with this mass of information.

Somehow, I get a strange feeling that Deborah (PDXvespa) would hold the secret to pass this along to her students... I can't explain why but there's just something about that girl!
True, of course! My students are all turning into info-wizards. Thanx for the plug....
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:21 am quote
re: search guide
Thanks for the search guide,,,,,

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Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:20 pm quote
how to use the search function
Harvey: Thanks for this guide. I was getting frustrated wading through many pages of articles that only matched one of the search words when I knew what article I wanted to find; the explanation of using Google to find phrases wil save me a lot of time.

lomunchi: As a teacher, I agree that the ability to search for information and make sense of it is a key skill today. I attended a MacWorld presentation for educators that made the exact same point. Today's life style involves much more sophisticated information interfaces (compare the old phones to today's mulit-function devices, for example). This demands a type of visual intelligence of today's young people that was not part of growing up for my generation (baby boomer). It's been a big adjustment for many in my generation to "get with it."

I was surprised to learn that today's kids have much more sophisticated visual intelligence that my generation, such that test designers have to keep making IQ test items harder, as IQs are going up!
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Fri May 09, 2008 2:57 pm quote
Thanks for the information!
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Tue May 13, 2008 5:52 am quote
I just search Google.
I look for the first result that has modernvespa.com as the source.
Done.
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Tue May 13, 2008 9:03 am quote
Menhir wrote:
I just search Google.
I look for the first result that has modernvespa.com as the source.
Done.
You can also search google with site:www.modernvespa.com included in your search.

The drawback to using google is that it will also search the text that shows up under avatars. So you may get posts back that are not entirely about what you searched for.
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Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:43 pm quote
better searching
I have never got the search function to work correctly and I can't go back once I start down a search ... probably something to do with Windows Vista. An advanced search on Google searching within ModernVespa.com has worked the best for me.
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Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:08 am quote
Thanks for the info...
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Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:16 pm quote
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Ossessionato
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