Anybody ever add a receiver hitch to your scoot?
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Wed May 28, 2008 9:48 am quote
Seriously.

Quick disclaimer... I tried the search function and came up w/nada. All towing posts I found were for towing the scoot itself.

If anyone has ever done this I would be thrilled to hear about it, see pics, etc.

I am mulling over towing a 150# aluminum trailer loaded with about 80 pounds of gear. Rack n Roll is the company that makes the trailer. But, I've never seen a scoot pull one. First time for everything though right? I am sure the Vespa can handle the weight. I just need to figure out attachment points to weld the hitch/tow ball, etc.

Thoughts, prayers, scorn? Let's hear it mobsters.

(BTW, great site.)
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Wed May 28, 2008 9:54 am quote
I have seen the single wheel hitches...
Are you sure the Vespa can handle the braking with that much weight chasing you ?
It is a little different with the weight actually on the scoot, chasing you is an whole nother matter.
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Wed May 28, 2008 10:16 am quote
No I am not sure at all about the follow weight. I figured it'd need to be less than the average side car with passenger. But, I am working from scratch as I haven't found anyone who's ever done it or even seen it done.

The other big concern is bounce. The trailer has shocks, but I am still worried that it'll create a significant amount of instability as trailer hits bumps, potholes, etc.
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Wed May 28, 2008 10:19 am quote
You may be able to adapt a Goldwing hitch for the Vespa, though I've never seen one...they also have a number of trailers available as well as wiring harnesses to make you all legal like:
http://www.chromeworld.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.catalog&categoryID=85
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Wed May 28, 2008 10:25 am quote
HI!
There's a guy around here that has a Yamaha Big Wheel-TW200 with a bicycle style one-wheel trailer that he hits the market with. I wouldn't want to try anything more then that-I don't even like pulling a trailer with my F150! If I needed the space for touring i'd buy a BMW...
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Wed May 28, 2008 11:50 am quote
I've seen trailers for PXs and Lammys, so I suppose the idea is sound. As for the feasibility on a modern Vespa, I'm not qualified to speculate.
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Wed May 28, 2008 12:41 pm quote
This might be what you are looking for:
http://flickr.com/photos/splorp/87914818/
Maybe you could contact the company to see how they did it.
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Wed May 28, 2008 1:04 pm quote
Here's mine on my x9 500 (the disgraceful exhaust is long gone):

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Wed May 28, 2008 1:14 pm quote
Thanks guys. This gives me hope...

JimC,

How does your 500 handle the extra weight?
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Wed May 28, 2008 1:22 pm quote
Christastropher wrote:
This might be what you are looking for:
http://flickr.com/photos/splorp/87914818/
Maybe you could contact the company to see how they did it.
Hey Birdsnest,
I took the advice of Christastropher and contacted ScooterMedia. They would not give out much info due in part to "liability issues." But he did state the total weight of trailer and sign was 250lbs. and that they connected to the bolts on the undercarriage. And don't forget they use a Vespa 150 another So it's definitely doable

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Wed May 28, 2008 1:25 pm quote
The ride is no different exccept for the extra inertia when the trailer is fully laden (150kg gross weight is the max allowed by regulations here). So acceleration and braking are affected, but a gentle riding style when towing makes it all very easy. The nose-weight should be kept to no more than 5kg (say 10lb).

Filtering is no problem, but overtakes have to be especially considered - not only from the acceleration POV, but also because you need much more room when pulling back in - the whole rig is almost twice as long as the scoot by itself.
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Thu May 29, 2008 11:17 am quote
Maybe someone can help my poor old brain, but I think I remember seeing a dealer seling a GT trailer hitch someplace on MV. (Its a pain to get old!) There are a lot of scoots (mostly 50cc) in Key West with homemade hitches on them towing unbelieveable loads---course they dont have to go very far. Art
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Thu May 29, 2008 11:26 am quote
you mean like the towball on this one?

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Thu May 29, 2008 1:50 pm quote
scooter media trailer
hey i did a little research and found this explanation of how scooter media constructed the trailer and hitch... this is from: http://justinsomnia.org/2007/09/vespa-trailers-exist/

below is the quote..

hope this helps!

jeremiah

"pdxrider
5/23/08 11:52am

I did a bit of riding for Scooter-Media up in Seattle last summer and I thought the trailers were pretty sweet as well. They sort of build them up themselves from a basic axle/wheel set and fiberglass pan. The cool part is the hitch - it bolts on with the engine cover bolts (along with a couple support points) and on the trailer is a regular ball tongue that gets a custom rotating joint added (so it {the tongue} can roll from side to side about 30 degrees or so). There’s also a tiny european trailer called a Pav that would probably be more practical - someone up here in Portland imports them and has them on craigslist from time to time for about a grand. They look sort of like a unigo and have just one wheel.
If you have any questions you can reach me through the email link on trycheckthis.com (glasses at the bottom of the page)."
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Thu May 29, 2008 4:30 pm quote
I'm pretty sure your Scoot could easily pull these lovely trailers.What do you all think.


Tim

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Fri May 30, 2008 4:00 am quote
This motorcycle trailer is one of the lightest I have seen.It maybe a good choice.Check it....

http://motorcycletrailer.com/mag1/umbt1a.htm

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Fri May 30, 2008 4:18 am quote
Maybe this is something for you
http://www.singlewheel.com/Scoots/PAVFR.htm

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Fri May 30, 2008 4:19 am quote
Scootover wrote:
I'm pretty sure your Scoot could easily pull these lovely trailers.What do you all think.


Tim
Nice idea.. But those tires are not speed rated for highway....
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Fri May 30, 2008 6:37 am quote
pivili wrote:
Maybe this is something for you
http://www.singlewheel.com/Scoots/PAVFR.htm
Those PAV trailers look good with the vintage scooter( vespa,lambretta,stella etc.) but look like hell to the point of being tacky on the back of the modern scoots.Of course to each his own.Keeping in line with the vintage look trailers
are a few more here.

http://www.maxi-trailers.com/index.html
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Fri May 30, 2008 10:34 am quote
OK birdsnest. You've gotten all these great tips and advice, but you have mysteriously gone quiet Where are you and what have you decided to do?
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Fri May 30, 2008 10:36 am quote
fulltimerart wrote:
Maybe someone can help my poor old brain, but I think I remember seeing a dealer seling a GT trailer hitch someplace on MV. (Its a pain to get old!) There are a lot of scoots (mostly 50cc) in Key West with homemade hitches on them towing unbelieveable loads---course they dont have to go very far. Art
I recall the same thing, but couldn't find it on here. I think it was a German(?) company that made them.
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Fri May 30, 2008 10:52 am quote
Oh man!!! No we are getting somewhere. Lot's of great posts and great ideas. Sorry for the delayed response... actually working at the office today and haven't had tons of computer time.

Thanx everyone for the ideas and links.

So, I feel like this is gonna happen now. I need to get with a local shop and get the hitch fabricated and installed. Trailer will be the second part of the project.

Shhhhh. Here's the cool thing.... if all comes to fruition it should lead to a magazine (non-scooter publication) article in a national monthly . Sorry... can't give details yet, but they have optioned the abstract so to speak.

I will be sure and post pics as I get the modifications done and the trailer rig set up. Also, I will post the the article (August or September) when it comes out.

Thanx again to everyone here at Mod Vespa. Much appreciated!
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Fri May 30, 2008 11:45 am quote
This would be a great way to make use of all these useless SUV's.
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Fri May 30, 2008 12:02 pm quote
Piaggio Trailer
Not sure what the story is with this trailer, but if Piaggio builds it you can bet it will be expensive.





A poor translation of the web site

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.cyberscooter.it/speciali/eicma07/piaggio.htm&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.cyberscooter.it/speciali/eicma07/piaggio.htm%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
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Fri May 30, 2008 12:09 pm quote
Probably the ideal thing to do is build or have built your trailer out of aluminum for it's lightweight.But should you go with non aluminum a decent alternative is to get a trailer something like this.You can buy the 2 trailers below without the cargo box.The enclosed cargo box trailers do have 1 drawback,such as you cannot haul the larger bulky stuff.You know such as stuff that's to tall or to long etc.You have many directions you can go with a hitch & trailer.Of course it all comes down to your needs.Anyway the 2 trailers shown can be bought as you see them for 567.00.Good luck.

http://magnetatrailers.com/motorcycletowbehindtrailers.html

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Fri May 30, 2008 12:17 pm quote
Christastropher wrote:
This would be a great way to make use of all these useless SUV's.


Great Thinking!
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Fri May 30, 2008 12:32 pm quote
my PAV favourites.....

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Fri May 30, 2008 12:34 pm quote
Please make sure your brake light is still visible.

Maybe even make an LED connection to whatever it is you're towin...

Good luck
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Fri May 30, 2008 12:50 pm quote
Here you go. I see it will carry a keg of Heineken as well.

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Sat May 31, 2008 12:33 am quote
HA, I found a wagon-cargo trailer called the Go-Wagon.It doubles as a childrens wagon or a cargo trailer.It's meant to be pulled by the go-ped scooters.No No don't laugh.Check out the You Tube video of it being pulled very quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL8vE8VyZU4



YOUR ALL SET! he he

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Sat May 31, 2008 2:03 am quote
Here's one from StellaSpeed

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Sat May 31, 2008 4:19 am quote
crackhead wrote:
Here's one from StellaSpeed
Thats what I'm talkin about Seth my man You beat me to the punch I was looking to tow a pop-up, but that one will do
BTW, are you and Dave going to the AmeriVespa?
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Sat May 31, 2008 4:51 am quote
crackhead wrote:
Here's one from StellaSpeed
Good find crackhead! Did scooters really pull that? It looks so big.I wish we could see the inside of that unit.

Tim
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Sat May 31, 2008 8:10 am quote
All these posts about trailers are interesting, but they don't address the problem of a hitch. I've got a Rack and Roll lightweight trailer that I'd love to use to tow a kayak behind my Vespa. It looks as if a custom hitch is the only way to go and I'm a total mechanical moron so that's not going to happen from my end.
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Sat May 31, 2008 12:45 pm quote
surfan wrote:
crackhead wrote:
Here's one from StellaSpeed
Thats what I'm talkin about Seth my man You beat me to the punch I was looking to tow a pop-up, but that one will do
BTW, are you and Dave going to the AmeriVespa?
I am. I think David is not. PM or call me so we don't thread hijack, forbid!

Hope to see you soon.
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Sat May 31, 2008 1:03 pm quote
Rover Eric wrote:
you mean like the towball on this one?

Eric, I really like the color of that clean looking scoot in the background! What model is it?
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Sat May 31, 2008 7:30 pm quote
Here are some really nice ones. They may be able to sell you the hitch only......They also have a distributer in Sydney Australia!

http://www.maxi-trailers.com/index.html

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Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:34 am quote
really nice. i agree
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Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:43 am quote
FYI, the Scooters, Inc. (scooter media) type rigs are only good for up to about 20 mph. Because of what they're doing, they don't want to go any faster anyway. Maybe faster if the road is smooth as glass, but any bumps screw you WAY up!!

As far as getting the hitch installed, contact a custom trailer fabricator. I've seen several different types of hitches on the 150's, and they all attach to the engine casing on the left, and the exhaust mount on the right. When using this setup, keep in mind that all tongue weight is unsprung!!! This is why bumps are killer on these things. If I were to design a rig, I would try to fasten it higher, like where the rear grabrail/rack attaches, so that you can make use of the adjustable rear suspension to support the tongue weight.

Hope this helps!
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Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:19 pm quote
Watsonion Squire are the UKs leading experts in this field.

They do a set up for the Vespa P-range which should work fine with the Gt/GTS

http://www.watsonian-squire.com/SQUIRE_TRAILERS0406.pdf
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