Your experences carrying extra gas?
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Ossessionato
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Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:08 pm quote
Follow this link....scroll down to the red military style fuel can.

http://fuelspecialists.com/Documents/DpsCat_Final.pdf

These are vaporproof, and bullet proof.

I carried one for 3000 miles in a messenger bag placed on the rear of the seat.

Heavy and expensive.....I would carry no other, you get what you pay for.......

my $0.02

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Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:31 pm quote
Thanks; didn't see this one when I looked around.

Here's what's on backorder for me right now (5L OD flat steel can):

http://www.landroverparts.us/landroverparts/NATOjerryCans.html?gclid=CJ7y4unM2ZQCFQkmIgodpyXBkw
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Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:39 pm quote
Well, most all motorcycle riders have a four or five gallon metal gas tank between their knees about 1/2 an inch from their crotch. You might call motorcycle riders crazy but it is certainly a common enough practice. Long distance cruisers often carry extra fuel. Ural sidecar bikes usually carry a 10 liter metal tank in a mount as in the picture. Just saying folks do it all the time.

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Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:20 pm quote
Just picked up 2 "1 Litre" fuel cans from Sports Chalet. An additional benefit to carrying the extra cannisters is the ability to use the same cans for a portable camping stove.

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Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:56 pm quote
I have tonnes of experience
I have run my scoot on ethanol for a while and since there are not that many places to get it, I quite often carry extra fuel. I took a trip on my mojito 150 with a 4 gallon container plus a 30liter back pack, sleeping bag and a pillow. I had to have enough fuel to get me where I was going and back. I have also had full fuel containers fall off because I didn't tie them down too well. At less than 30 they get scrapped up but dont break. Keep in mind ethanol is slightly heavier than gas and not as volatile.
I have only carried gas when I have gone to rescue friend who ran out of gas, but that's usually a gallon or two.
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Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:14 pm quote
I carried a 1.2 gallon tank in a topcase, along with 2 1 liter camp gas bottles across the entire country.
They saved my bunz a few times. Really.
Ossessionato
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Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:42 pm quote
My real world experience: 33oz and 22 oz fuel bottles from outdoor/camping store. 22oz in the pet carrier. 33oz attached under the rear rack with 4" hose clamps. Colour blends in with my scooter.

I did run out of gas on a ~8800 mile journey last May near McLean, TX. It was my first day of wicked headwinds, hills, and my Throttle Rocker. Got me to the next exit which luckily had fuel.


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Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:02 pm quote
starreem wrote:
My real world experience: 33oz and 22 oz fuel bottles from outdoor/camping store. 22oz in the pet carrier. 33oz attached under the rear rack with 4" hose clamps. Colour blends in with my scooter.

I did run out of gas on a ~8800 mile journey last May near McLean, TX. It was my first day of wicked headwinds, hills, and my Throttle Rocker. Got me to the next exit which luckily had fuel.


I carry this same one....Because I copied Star's idea. I have used it a couple times in a pinch. I especially love it because it's out of the way and not in the pet carrier.
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Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:07 pm quote
Yeah, but Linda, Starr wins because you don't have that In-N-Out Burger sticker on your GTS
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Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:57 pm quote
Post script from the O.P.
Wow, this thread grew legs.

To update: the 5L jerry can from British Pacific finally came in, with the heavy flex spout.

This is very heavy duty stuff, folks - the can is heavy OD enameled streel. The cap-to-spout arrangement is not thread-on, but a heavy rubber gasket-sealed fulcrum-pressure system whereby the two are forced firmly together by rocking the spout end into place under shaped wedges.

The x-country trip, btw, was delayed until Spring '09: Mme's illness had her down for weeks, during which her Dad out in Omaha died, and my own Mother in Golden went through a series of congestive heart failure episodes. Ended-up making many crash trips via the loathsome commercial air carriers of this country (Mid West not included: those guys are the best). Scootering generally took a back seat.

Had planned to carry the Brit Pak on the front carrier (where it fit beautifully) with the spout in the canvas GI toolbag under the seat with tire plug kit, and rainsuit, but, uh, something came up. The jerrycan is going on a whole 'nother bike.

Now I'll do a self-thread-hijack...

I've always been a Pantheist when it comes to vehicles, and find something to crave in many different marques. We'd sold-off two autos and one very nice truck when I went with the 4-season two-wheel commitment, keeping a single '08 Honda Fit, and the simplification of life & expense was gratifying.

Life was good. Then I got a rocket from someone who knew that I'd always desired a very different kind of bike, one that is a bit scarce-ish and not often on the market. Only sold in the US for two years ('05 & '06). One was coming up for sale only five hours away and I jumped on it: an '06 Honda PS250 Big Ruckus, the Toyota Tundra of Scooters...and that's where the can is going for long tours.

And SWMBO allowed that I could keep the GTS as well because the BR had been such a bargain (and she loved both, as do I). The BR is lower, and much easier for her to climb aboard with her health issues, and more comfortable for the passenger with back problems in riding.

Now we have three bikes, counting her Vino 125. The GTS is still my screamer, the BRuck is the pickup truck, and the Vino stays pretty much under the broad eaves, locked down just outside the door and convenient for the in-and-out daily errand-hopping.

Doesn't get much better than that...
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Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:06 am quote
Dooglas wrote:
Well, most all motorcycle riders have a four or five gallon metal gas tank between their knees about 1/2 an inch from their crotch. You might call motorcycle riders crazy but it is certainly a common enough practice. Long distance cruisers often carry extra fuel. Ural sidecar bikes usually carry a 10 liter metal tank in a mount as in the picture. Just saying folks do it all the time.
Ha! Just posting as I sort of love in when threads randomly come back from the dead. If you need extra gas just get a Ural like me and Dooglas did . Or a good ole' reliable gas container strapped to the floor rack works in a pinch on a Vespa.

Always a bit sad when I see the red toaster.

Has anything changed in the last decade or so with the ability to carry extra petrol?
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Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:46 pm quote
Garthhh wrote:
I like reserve in a can
The neck is small enough to be easy to use
1 liter is enough to overcome a minor miscalculation
Damn - $20/gal for gas ain't cheap.
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Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:48 pm quote
mayorofnow wrote:
Garthhh wrote:
I like reserve in a can
The neck is small enough to be easy to use
1 liter is enough to overcome a minor miscalculation
Damn - $20/gal for gas ain't cheap.
Looks refillable, in which case it's it's a very expensive small fuel can.
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Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:51 am quote
Shelf life of 5 years
We had a chinese 150 with a 1 gallon tank, a sticky gas gauge, no trip odo & limited cell coverage
As emergency reserve or a gas can, Five bucks is cheap

I used the below kind of can [qt] as a refillable, the cap is metal under the plastic safety thing, the neck is big enough to fill up at the pump, the offset position helps for pouring, the shape is easier to tie down
New examples at sensible prices were only available in larger quantities

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Molto Verboso
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Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:48 am quote
Carrying Extra Fuel
Some of you must really be going way off broadway to need to carry fuel.
It is my understanding that you are not off roading with your Vespa.
I do respect you riders that want to be prepared.

I routinely do not ride for more than an hour without stopping to rest my old bones. The stops are usually at service stations and I always top off the fuel tank - even if it is only half empty. I obviously am not a candidate for a cannon ball run.

I attend group rides regularly. At stops, other riders are always asking, How far to the next fuel stop? This always makes me chuckle to myself. For goodness sakes, top off your tank rookie! But, I am polite and kindly suggest they might want to top off to stay ahead. Bada bing, bada boom!

That is the news from Lake Wobegon.

Bob Copeland
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Keep the Tire Side Down and the Tank Topped Off

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Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:25 am quote
You need an updated picture of you and the scoot Bob It's a lovely scoot but maybe get a few different angles and shots with you and it for the purposes of variety. Hey, you can even add a cigar for a touch of class! It actually be fun to mix them up and posting a pic is sort of your modus operandi.

Now regarding carrying extra petrol. There are certain trips that stations are far and few between and I've done them in the past. A simple example is me and a P200e on Route 66 out of Chicago. Yes there are gas stations but depending on the time of day and year many of the mom and pop shops close early so you can't fuel up. There were a few times I literally was on the fumes when I hit one that was open. Same goes for much of this great Country to the north of you. If you are riding through say rural Alberta don't expect there to be a gas station always within range of the limited tank on a Vespa. There is a reason some touring bikes like my K1600GT has a 7 US gallon tank. The Vespa may get better millage but is only I believe about 2 1/2 gallons so if touring on it I understand the piece of mind of having more petrol on hand.
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Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:13 am quote
Carrying Extra Fuel
Harbinger,

You are right - I have about 5 stock photos in my saved computer pictures.
I need some updated shots. Also, I do like seeing photos of posters when they are commenting on different subjects. Additionally, when I finally figured out how to post attached photos, I kind of went wild doing it.

I admit, I do not do late night cruising and you are accurate - they close
up. Several of the riders in my scooter group do carry those small red
gas containers.

Bob Copeland
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Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:29 am quote
Re: Carrying Extra Fuel
Bob Copeland wrote:
Harbinger,

You are right - I have about 5 stock photos in my saved computer pictures.
I need some updated shots. Also, I do like seeing photos of posters when they are commenting on different subjects. Additionally, when I finally figured out how to post attached photos, I kind of went wild doing it.

I admit, I do not do late night cruising and you are accurate - they close
up. Several of the riders in my scooter group do carry those small red
gas containers.

Bob Copeland
Minnesota
No worries Bob, it's great having you around and your viewpoint is valuable. Now just update that photo portfolio

Yup, riding in rural areas can be frustrating after passing a few stations that are closed and watching that needle go down. Or even better on the Ural and old scoots waiting for the low fuel light to go on or flick on the reserve tank.
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Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:10 am quote
Rusty J wrote:
mayorofnow wrote:
Garthhh wrote:
I like reserve in a can
The neck is small enough to be easy to use
1 liter is enough to overcome a minor miscalculation
Damn - $20/gal for gas ain't cheap.
Looks refillable, in which case it's it's a very expensive small fuel can.
Refillable? I doubt that is going to hold any fuel without a leak horizontally. Besides the law is that all gasoline must be stored and transported in a red container.
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Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:13 am quote
Max6200 wrote:
Rusty J wrote:
mayorofnow wrote:
Garthhh wrote:
I like reserve in a can
The neck is small enough to be easy to use
1 liter is enough to overcome a minor miscalculation
Damn - $20/gal for gas ain't cheap.
Looks refillable, in which case it's it's a very expensive small fuel can.
Refillable? I doubt that is going to hold any fuel without a leak horizontally. Besides the law is that all gasoline must be stored and transported in a red container.
Hit it with a red rattle-can and store it vertically. Done and done.

That said, an MSR 30 oz fuel bottle is about $25, and won't leak in any orientation -- so it's a much better alternative.

Looks like a couple of riders up-thread are using them.
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Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:58 am quote
I am always concerned about running out of gas. My fuel consumption varies of course depending on weather I'm doing city riding or wide open throtle.

I think I have a llstuck float because I never got an accurate reading on the instrument panel. Most of the time it just keeps blinking so I cannot rely on that.

I use the trip-o-meter however that is not entirely reliable either. A few years ago I got this in the Christmas gift exchange. It gives me some peace of mind.

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Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:32 pm quote
I've used a refilled True Fuel bottle wrapped in red duct tape with success.
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