P200E original paint colors
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Molto Verboso
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Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:41 am quote
I was wondering if anyone had info on original paint colors for the P200E's?
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Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:42 am quote
This is the best I've found so far

Scoot.net Paint Codes
Molto Verboso
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Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:49 am quote
Paint
Thanks for the tech data.
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Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:55 am quote
99% of all USA P200's i've seen from the late 70's / early 80's are either the Italian Blue color, Maroon, Red, White, or Silver. ( with silver being the most common hands down )

Never seen the "tobacco" or "sand" colors.
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Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:58 am quote
Colors
Do you have a picture of the Italian Blue?
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Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:06 am quote
Re: Colors
SteveinSac wrote:
Do you have a picture of the Italian Blue?
A clubmate's '79 or '80 P200e is the same color as the blue on this '74 primavera...

i'll try to dig up the code. Not sure if the scoot.net chart is correct as it tends to focus on the euro-specific releases ( which is why i may have never seen "sand" and "tobacco" colored P200's over here - they might not have ever been USA released colors )

Anyways, here's the color:



Here's an actual '79 P200 with the blue color ...but the paint has sun-faded a bit. ( some rubbing compound and wax would make it look new again )

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Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:20 am quote
is the two tone white with black in my avatar a customization?
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Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:24 am quote
sprestonduncan wrote:
is the two tone white with black in my avatar a customization?
I'd guess it's the stock white P200 color, and someone resprayed the black items black.
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Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:28 am quote
When I was looking for a coulor for my MP3 my dealer borrowed me this


These are all the piaggio coulors from the 70s till the 90s

I chose the green my first vespa (P 150 E 1983) had. I bought it new.
It was "verde Chianty"
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Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:13 am quote
Rover Eric wrote:
99% of all USA P200's i've seen from the late 70's / early 80's are either the Italian Blue color, Maroon, Red, White, or Silver. ( with silver being the most common hands down )

Never seen the "tobacco" or "sand" colors.
I had one of those blue colored Ps, but I was told it was called China Blue, semantics. That color looks good polished, but when it fades, yuk.
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Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:24 pm quote
Re: Colors
Rover Eric wrote:
Here's an actual '79 P200 with the blue color ...but the paint has sun-faded a bit. ( some rubbing compound and wax would make it look new again )

Hey, that's my P! That shot was taken almost 6 years ago, since then it's had a partial respray and been ridden to pieces on the last Cannonball, currently awaiting repairs in my garage. Hopefully I'll be able to sort it out this winter and have it back on the road by next spring! Back to the topic of colors though, I love this color blue and I think it looks great with white. In case anyone is interested, some more pics can be found here.
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Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:49 pm quote
Re: Colors
Rover Eric wrote:
SteveinSac wrote:
Do you have a picture of the Italian Blue?
A clubmate's '79 or '80 P200e is the same color as the blue on this '74 primavera...

i'll try to dig up the code. Not sure if the scoot.net chart is correct as it tends to focus on the euro-specific releases ( which is why i may have never seen "sand" and "tobacco" colored P200's over here - they might not have ever been USA released colors )

Anyways, here's the color:




Here's an actual '79 P200 with the blue color ...but the paint has sun-faded a bit. ( some rubbing compound and wax would make it look new again )

I believe it's the "official blue" of the Italian Postal Service, as those are the blue ones they use.

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Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:14 pm quote
Rover Eric wrote:
99% of all USA P200's i've seen from the late 70's / early 80's are either the Italian Blue color, Maroon, Red, White, or Silver. ( with silver being the most common hands down )

Never seen the "tobacco" or "sand" colors.
I have the red p200e. I want to do some paint work to it.. problem is..
WHAT RED do I get. The Max Meyer codes are totally useless because there un available. There are literally millions of variations on the color red
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:04 am quote
Choices choices choices
Are you going with the original or not. I think that the choices for 1980 are a little drab. My P200E is the maroon which I don't like. I decided that I'm going to try Krylon Global Blue. It's close to the original blue but a little deeper. I'll post pictures when it's done.
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:54 pm quote
Blue P
Mine is a different blue. I was told that this color was only used in '78.

I'm in Sacramento, too, if you want to see it in person.

Regards.

Trysh

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Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:44 pm quote
Nice color!
Thanks for posting your picture. This looks real close to the color I picked out. I don't care for the lighter blue that came out in the late 70's or early 80's I had no idea that your color exiisted. Did the black trim also come originally? My P200E is in the shop having the shifting cross replaced. Maybe I could see it next weekend. We usually ride around midtown.

Thanks again,
Steve
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:09 pm quote
Everything is original on this bike. I bought it with 8200 miles on it.
Next weekend I'm out of town. The weekend after I'll be at The Burgundy Topz rally. See you there?
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:47 am quote
If you've got the original paint and it's in good condition, just sit back and try to enjoy it. It's only original once...
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:52 am quote
Mine sure isn't

But I figure once the original paint is lost, you get the joy of picking an "unoriginal" paint scheme you think makes it perty...
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:56 am quote
aside from powdercoating, i've NEVER seen a resprayed bike have as durable chip / scratch resistant paint as the original stuff that was baked on there.

As someone who's had a number of bikes resprayed, i'd take the original in a heartbeat over something brand new... the durability is unmatched.
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:22 am quote
Re: Blue P
PpPpPp wrote:
Mine is a different blue. I was told that this color was only used in '78.

I'm in Sacramento, too, if you want to see it in person.

Regards.

Trysh
Can someone enlighten me on the "rubber" cowl protectors that are displayed on this bike? Mine came with one white colored one on the engine side cowl. It says Piaggio on it. I'm assuming there are supposed to be two, one per cowl. I also see this bike has one on the front fender. Were these factory accessories? Can you buy repops?

thanks
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:40 am quote
Yeah ...they were an adornment ..not sure if they were an add-on accessory or if they actually came with the bike, but i've seen a lot of mid-80's bikes with those on.
Molto Verboso
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:41 am quote
Original paint
The paint on mine is in fair condition. A little oxidized but could probably been rubbed out. The cowls are pretty scratched up. The previous owner tried to touch up but color doesn't match. The stripes are pretty scratched up also.
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:48 am quote
Follow this method before you consider blasting and respraying :

1) Degrease the thing. I like Purple Power.

2) Rubbing compound the entire bike ...use like wax ...rub it into the paint, then rub it off.

3) Do the same thing, but with cleaner wax

4) do the same thing, but with finisher wax

5) you can use some sort of final "showroom" type spray here, if you want to clean it up.


If you do this to your bike, and still aren't satisfied, i'll be impressed.
Molto Verboso
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:06 am quote
Touch up
Thanks for the tip. I was raised polishing cars. My dad owned Packard motor cars and had a 1947 repainted with enamel unlike the origenal laquer. However due to his attention to detail he painfully wet sanded polished with different grit stage compounds. The judges could not tell that it wasn't laquer while being judged.

I agree with your thoughts on original and if you have any thoughts or suggestions on the cowls I would apreciate it. The cowels were covered with vynal protectors. You can see the scooter here http://scoot.net/classifieds/forsale.html?id=14029
The picture looks much better than the condition as far as the cowels. I replaced the mirrors because one of them was broken.
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:21 am quote
Re: Blue P
PpPpPp wrote:
Mine is a different blue. I was told that this color was only used in '78.

I'm in Sacramento, too, if you want to see it in person.

Regards.

Trysh
my 78/79 px is same colour
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:32 am quote
Super Fly-

That is one lovely P!!! I like the Union Jack seat cover!

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Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:13 pm quote
I've also got a dark blue '78.

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Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:12 pm quote
YAY for stock p200s!!
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Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:19 pm quote
Is there a guide somewhere that describes the re-painting process? I know next to nothing about painting, and could use an idiots-guide that includes where to buy paint, what kind, color matches, technique, how many layers, clear polish or other stuff needed?
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Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:35 pm quote
Wangta01 wrote:
Is there a guide somewhere that describes the re-painting process? I know next to nothing about painting, and could use an idiots-guide that includes where to buy paint, what kind, color matches, technique, how many layers, clear polish or other stuff needed?
http://www.redhaus.com/vespa/booth.html

http://www.scooterhelp.com/tips/paint/paint.main.html

Edited, because I forgot to add the Scooterhelp link.

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Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:41 pm quote
Andrea wrote:
Wangta01 wrote:
Is there a guide somewhere that describes the re-painting process? I know next to nothing about painting, and could use an idiots-guide that includes where to buy paint, what kind, color matches, technique, how many layers, clear polish or other stuff needed?
http://www.redhaus.com/vespa/booth.html

http://www.scooterhelp.com/tips/paint/paint.main.html

Edited, because I forgot to add the Scooterhelp link.

Andrea
Thanks for this - good stuff.

I guess I'm surprised that they went through all that work to build the painting "room", then used aerosol paint (AKA rattle-cans).

If I were to bring my scooter into a shop to get it repainted, they wouldn't use aerosol paint would they?
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Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:04 pm quote
From the year 1976 til 1981 the P200E had 7 main colors and some mix colors made it to america such as light blue and some type of orange this was because left over paints were mixed and these blends were made

so many people liked the new colors that in 1982 many new colors were added to the new px200e

1977-1982 Vespa P200E

Burgundy: MaxMeyer 1.298.5895
Red: MaxMeyer 5003M
Royal Blue: MaxMeyer 7002M
Sand: MaxMeyer 3002M
Silver: MaxMeyer 1.268.0108
Tobacco: MaxMeyer 3003M
White: MaxMeyer 1.298.1715
Inside Gray Primer: MaxMeyer 8012M

1982 Vespa PX200E

Black: MaxMeyer 9000M
Blue Spazio: MaxMeyer 7005M
China Red: MaxMeyer 5002M
Cobalt Blue: MaxMeyer 7003M
Fed Red: MaxMeyer 5000M
Metallic Charcoal: MaxMeyer 8004M
Racing Red: MaxMeyer 1.298.5806
Snow White: MaxMeyer 1002M
Titanium Gray: MaxMeyer 8005M
White: MaxMeyer 1001M
Inside Gray Primer: MaxMeyer 8012M

most of these codes are right and PPG is able to make them all even better with UV protectant

I have a sheet somewhere from my great uncle telling the amounts of mixed MaxMeyers that he logged during the late 70's he was one of the main Painters at Piaggio for 32 years I think most mixes were done in scale of kg's
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Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:23 pm quote
Anybody know what the color code is for Dragon Red - like on a current GTS?

You guys think it's lame if you paint a '79 P200 dragon red? I'm not sure if dragon red is the actual color they used back then (Red: MaxMeyer 5003M according to post above).
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:30 am quote
1998 P200E UK Registered Metallic Green
I've just got a P200E registered in the UK in 1998. It's a dark metallic Green and as far as I can remember is an original Vespa colour.

It needs some work on the paintwork but am struggling to find an accurate paint code for it... Wondered if you guys could assist.

Cheers

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Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:40 pm quote
1979 Silver/Grey Paint Code in US?
I've been trying to figure out if anyone has a good Paint Code for US based Paints or a way to convert the Myers Codes. I am not looking for perfect, I am just wanting to repaint some parts and get it close.


Thanks
G
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:26 am quote
The paint is Max Meyer Code: 2.268.0108, Chiaro di luna metallizzato 108.
You can try glasurit paint store pia 108 or piaggio 108 but it prob won’t match old parts and will need to get them to match the color from a good part.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:21 am quote
There is also a GM color that is almost a straight match.... let me see if I can find it...
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Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:10 pm quote
Re: 1979 Silver/Grey Paint Code in US?
Grayson wrote:
I've been trying to figure out if anyone has a good Paint Code for US based Paints or a way to convert the Myers Codes. I am not looking for perfect, I am just wanting to repaint some parts and get it close.


Thanks
G
I did some testing, and BMW Alpinweiss 2 is very close to the P200 white. As close a match as you can probably find.

And the Rally white was very close to VW Alpinweiss L90E.

Since those are common, they come in paint touch up pens, and are easy to order paint.
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