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Pretty cool.
I wish they could have done the front brake without hacking into the fender, but it still looks good. |
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These guys do really good work from what I've heard. I've been thinking about taking my Sprint in there and having them rip it apart and turn it into something like that Rally. What do you think?
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I like the idea of it being fully powdercoated, nice touch that. looks like a good one to me. Agree about the front mudguard though, pity.
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that's not a Rally headset though, is it? it looks like an SS headset, but I could very well be wrong.
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latinguy wrote: that's not a Rally headset though, is it? it looks like an SS headset, but I could very well be wrong. |
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It does mention in the write-up that he swapped the original headset for a slightly dropped set from an SS.
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Halijaro wrote: It does mention in the write-up that he swapped the original headset for a slightly dropped set from an SS. |
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latinguy wrote: Halijaro wrote: It does mention in the write-up that he swapped the original headset for a slightly dropped set from an SS. |
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i would love to ride this thing!
its not the prettiest looking scoot but it sure would move along, and 'stop on a dime'. hehe some of the trimming doesnt fit too well like around the legshield and the exhaust looks like it is rusting at every weld? why couldnt they paint it with some high temp stuff? i wish there was somewhere here i could leave my px so it could be turned into a monster too! those semi drop bars look great. i want! |
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i can't even imagine the time/effort/focus that went into executing this project. this bike is worth much more than the sum of its parts.
i gotta wonder about that back brake though. while the vespa back brake indeed accounts for the lion's share of the braking duty, it's primarily a function of the effectiveness of the rear equipment vs the front equipment...the company certainly took advantage of the bike's weight distribution, but weight distribution means nothing when the tire locks up....which i imagine it would do very, very easily with a semi-hydrolic brake in front, and a fully hydrolic brake in back. i can only wish to have the time/money/resources for this kind of project...but if it were me, i probably woulda sank my braking money into a fully hydrolic front brake and good anti-dive equipment. |
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VLBJS1 wrote: I pretty much want the guts of that thing in my Sprint. The drop bars are fine and I am cool with fender mod, although if they could have shaped it around the SIP then even better. Hate the tail light though. Ok, off to buy my lottery ticket |
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i agree about the taillight. it isn't my cup of tea either. and the bodywork could be better. the bodywork would be sooo much harder with powdercoat. i really do wonder how much he has into it. i bet it would make his old lady's head explode! it is pretty cool. looks like he went SIP crazy.
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cipote wrote: Hate the tail light though. ...regardles, i'm not a fan of it either. |
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maybe im weird but i kinda dig the taillight. real original. not something you see all the time.
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I think the tail light looks like crap. I like the ideal of trying to do something different, but it doesn't fit the scoot at all.
The Rally kind of reminds me of a 65 Mustang, but with disc brakes, a 5.4EFI with Eaton supercharger. I really like the idea of keeping the classic lines, but ripping out the old guts and placing new technology in there. I don't think I would do that to something rare like a GS160 or SS180 though. |
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i also don't like the wording in the rally stripe. i know the boutiquey car builders often do it too, but i don't like it on cars either.
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I agree about the stripes and having their phone number on there would just be a no go...I am not a rolling billboard.
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its local advert,not intended for web.i'm almost sure thats how he rolls that thing.for advertising in his area.very reputable shop. thats why he stands by this with a 6 month warrenty.crazy man.thats socal for ya.
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I would rather take this 65 SS 180 that's for sales on scoot.net...it's from Nebraska. 5k or best offer...
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VLBJS1 wrote: I would rather take this 65 SS 180 that's for sales on scoot.net...it's from Nebraska. 5k or best offer... you've got the restoration guys who are all about preserving the cars down to the model/period-correct coolant overflow bag, for example. on the other hand are the modifiers, where nothing about the car's design is sacred. the latter...well, their cars hold no value compared to the preserved former. then there's a subset of the two, the so-called "resto-mods", who dance a fine line between improving on the car (because let's face it, an overflow bag sucks, and was a cost saving measure), and preserving the spirit of the design. i think that rally (aside from the useless/dangerous rear disc and, yes, ugly taillight), while sort of on the extreme side of resto-mod, is a decent example, and probably will sell for a pretty darn penny. it's still within the realm of "fixable" for the next owner. also, the fact that he started with a rally frame and a P motor suggests to me at least that an actual restoration may have been impossible (down to the numbers, anyway). however, if that ss 180 were in the same geographical market, it would sell twice as fast, and very likely for more money. i would be surprised if that rally sold for asking price of $6500, at least not to someone who is scraping pennies together to buy a bike, collectible or otherwise. that's the risk in modifying a scoot. one modification too many, and suddenly it's not *a* scoot, but *your* scoot, signed and sealed. |
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aaron h. wrote: that's the risk in modifying a scoot. one modification too many, and suddenly it's not *a* scoot, but *your* scoot, signed and sealed. |
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Quote: one modification too many, and suddenly it's not *a* scoot, but *your* scoot, signed and sealed. |
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aaron h. wrote: VLBJS1 wrote: I would rather take this 65 SS 180 that's for sales on scoot.net...it's from Nebraska. 5k or best offer... you've got the restoration guys who are all about preserving the cars down to the model/period-correct coolant overflow bag, for example. on the other hand are the modifiers, where nothing about the car's design is sacred. the latter...well, their cars hold no value compared to the preserved former. then there's a subset of the two, the so-called "resto-mods", who dance a fine line between improving on the car (because let's face it, an overflow bag sucks, and was a cost saving measure), and preserving the spirit of the design. i think that rally (aside from the useless/dangerous rear disc and, yes, ugly taillight), while sort of on the extreme side of resto-mod, is a decent example, and probably will sell for a pretty darn penny. it's still within the realm of "fixable" for the next owner. also, the fact that he started with a rally frame and a P motor suggests to me at least that an actual restoration may have been impossible (down to the numbers, anyway). however, if that ss 180 were in the same geographical market, it would sell twice as fast, and very likely for more money. i would be surprised if that rally sold for asking price of $6500, at least not to someone who is scraping pennies together to buy a bike, collectible or otherwise. that's the risk in modifying a scoot. one modification too many, and suddenly it's not *a* scoot, but *your* scoot, signed and sealed. |
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