Buying a Vespa in Italy and bringing it back
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:32 pm quote
After reading Vroom with a View, I am at least fantasizing about going to Italy, buying a new US-legal GT 250 and shipping it back to the states after touring for a couple of weeks. Any idea if Vespa has a program to let you do that.
No sign of it on Vespa USA web site, and I can't read the Italian site.
I guess I could buy an Italian one, but it would save a lot of hassle not to have to modify a bike to US standards, and it would be nice if Vespa had some sort of shipping program.
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:45 pm quote
BMW and Volvo do but Vespa no.
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:22 pm quote
cfargo wrote:
BMW and Volvo do but Vespa no.
But wouldn't it be cool. And why has Vespa not thought to do it, knowing the worldwide appeal of the brand.

Note to anyone from Vespa please implement I could be convinced to lay down cold hard cash for the opportunity. And can I pick up directly off the assembly or even better do or sit in on the final quality check?Oh please oh please!
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:36 pm quote
European delivery

wow i have always wanted to buy a BMW using European delivery the thought of a European delivery Vespa did not even cross my mind

Vespa nows your chance to step up
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:48 pm quote
Do it. Get that parts situation worked out here in the US so you're as efficient as Japan and Taiwan and I would be hard pressed not to get a GTS250ie and ride most of Europe before having it shipped to the USA.
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:58 pm quote
Buying anything in Italy that involves the Italian Government is crazy.

#1 As an American you can't buy a Scooter there and if you could you would go nuts waiting in line for all the licence's.

#2 You can have an Italian buy it for you or maybe a reliable Scooter Shop and let them get all the necessary documents before you get there. You must find a honest and reliable Italian.

#4 They could ship it back to the USA for you. However, you need to disassemble (at least removing the engine) and declare to US Customs the shipment is scooter parts plus do all the importing paper work or hire am importing company.

#3 You know what they say... If it flies, Floats, F--ks or trying to buy a scooter in Italy... it is always cheaper to rent it.
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:49 pm quote
Cswett:

I work for the US Customs, and my advise to you, disregard what ExonicJay says:

"#4 Disassemble (at least removing the engine) and declare to US Customs the shipment is scooter parts".

Disassembling the bike does not stop it from being what it is; a Scooter!.

You can buy a Vespa overseas and have it shipped to the US yourself. There is no law that says otherwise. As long as the bike complies with US specs and EPA standards. All you need is a commercial invoice, a master bill of lading, EPA & DOT papework. Get a licensed customsbroker and voila' he'll do everthing else for you. It is not easy, but is not imposible. Any questions, PM me. OK?

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Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:58 pm quote
Very first GT200 in the states was an inported euro model
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:38 pm quote
I would trust Cswett's comments and advice.

I don't want anyone to break any laws based on my posting.

However, I tried to buy a Vespa in Italy and was not able to purchase a scoot in Italy because of Italian laws and not US laws.

My comments were based on what Italians said they had done in the past to ship scoots to the US.

The whole issue of working with the Italians and then trying to get all the US approvals required seemed overwhelming and expensive for me to accomplish.

It sounds like the process could take a very long time.

Thanks Cswett for keeping us on the straight and level.
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Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:49 am quote
Buying a Scoot in Italy
I am stationed in Italy, and as far as I have been able to find, you cannot buy a US-spec scooter here. You can buy a US-spec Ducati, but not a Vespa.

I went ahead and bought a GTS250 to ride during my time here, but I honestly don't know how I'm going to get it back into the States. Although I think it would be easy to add all of the other reflectors and what-not, and though I'm pretty sure the engine/emissions are the same as the US version, it doesn't have the US Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) label. So, no matter what I add to the scooter, I think I'd still have to use a customs broker/import specialist, which would cost several thousand dollars.

So, I'm guessing that I'll just have to sell it before I leave and buy another after I get back to the States. Bummer, eh.

Can anyone tell me exactly where the FMVSS and EPA labels are on the GTS250? Is there any way for me to buy the necessary parts and make mine just like a US-spec (including labels) before entry into the country?

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Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:36 am quote
Back in 1979/80 when I was studying sculpture in Italy a friend of mine
bought a Ducati Desmo and was told that he could buy it without paying
taxes and import it into Canada, But he'd have to stay out of Canada for a
year if he didn't want to pay duties on the bike.

Something about being able to claim it as your property.

Don't know if that still holds true today or whether you can do the same for the U.S.A.

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