4 Stroke / Manual Change
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Vespa GT & Vespa LX
Joined: 07 Nov 2005
Posts: 517
Location: Southend-on-Sea, UK
Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:35 am quote
Just seen this..


If Baja can make a 4T manual change traditional scooter, then perhaps Piaggio can / will / might do so in the future? An updated P-Range with a 4T lump?

Could be interesting if they do...
2002 ET4 & 1980 100 Sport
Joined: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 2896
Location: Riverside, Ca
Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:43 pm quote
Don't count on it.
Vespa GT200 and Lambretta LI125
Joined: 10 Nov 2005
Posts: 60
Location: Bend, OR
Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:10 pm quote
Bajaj makes a damn good scooter.
If you want a scooter that lighter than your gt, manual shift, clean burning, for around town, bajaj is great....and bulletin proof
Joined: 17 Oct 2005
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Location: The Happiest Place on Earth
Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:36 am quote
I would love to see an updated and modernized manual shift scooter. If I could make my dream one, it would be a 200cc 2 stroke. It would have liquid cooling, direct injection, and a supercharger to blow air directly into the cylinder (instead of going through the crank case, which would have a lubrication system like a 4 stroke). That engine would be coupled with a 5 or 6 speed transmission that gives good top speed and quick acceleration, and it would shift very swiftly and smoothly. I would also want disc brakes front and rear.

That would be a good modern interpretation of a manual shift scooter.
'12 Stella 4T, '76 FrankenVespa
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 51
Location: Oklahoma City
Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:58 am quote
Yeah, my first scoot was an '02 Bajaj Chetak. Great bike. 145cc four-stroke, 4-speed, 55-60 mph, 80+ mpg, electric/kick start, good storage, much of the P/PX bling-bling would fit, etc. ALWAYS started and ran (just like the GT200). What's not to like?

It is still running around the OKC area, but with a new owner. Sometimes I'm sorry I sold it. Here are a couple of pics:

PX200 for aeons, Lambrettas in "60's",My wife's GTS250 when I'm good.
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 809
Location: Auckland,New Zealand
Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:40 am quote
Piaggio lookin at it
Piaggio has been doing surveys in Europe regarding the PX.
They say that the PX look is still important notably in UK and Germany and dont want to shut it down completely but they realise it has to be a 200cc to appeal.
They were asking whether manual or auto in this body shape would be an important factor and could you live with a four stroke , doing without a rear wheel under side pod/blister to make room etc.
Not holding my breath as the market would be small.
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Location: Puyallup, WA
Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:53 am quote
It would be nice for us Californians!

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