Cross Country Trek - Vermont to Los Angeles!
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Molto Verboso
2007 LX 150 & 1969 Sprint Veloce
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:28 pm quote
Thanks for sharing your trip adventures. I starting following your thread when you were on Day 3 and I was hooked. I'm glad you made it to your destination safely.

Although I don't have the time or means to take a trip like yours now, it did inspire me to pull out my map and look for local areas to explore that I hadn't considered before.
Enthusiast
2007 LXV 150, 2005 PX150
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Location: San Francisco
Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:36 pm quote
Congratulations on a fabulous journey!
Molto Verboso
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:39 pm quote
An incredible journey Wangta.

I am glad you have reached your destination safely and I am grateful to you for sharing.

Marc
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:47 pm quote
Glad to hear the PX held out and you guys made it there!

Best topic ever, great pictures, great ride....you're awesome man.

Ossessionato
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:48 pm quote
primordialdancer wrote:
2007GTS wrote:
primordialdancer wrote:
I know it won't be cooler, but you may want to consider driving through Death Valley via Pahrump and then coming into Southern Cal. through the Sierra Nevadas. If you go this way - do it EARLY in the morning, can I say EARLY again...?! Just DON'T ride in the afternoon in Death Valley if you know what I mean. It would be a pretty route with much nicer traffic than the Interstate.

Good luck with the rest of your journey,

Desi B.
I took the Death Valley ride last year in August and this was the worst ride I have ever been on EVER. I left Pahrump, NV way too late at 11am and there are some very long stretches of road with only a few gas stations and the roads are not marked well. There is no way in hell I would do that ride again even in the early morning. Too many things can go wrong and there is NO CELL COVERAGE. Be safe you guys.
Oh, It's hot and dry for sure (and I certainly wouldn't say this is the best time of year to do it either), but it's a great ride. I used to do it every year on my bicycle. Amazing desert scenery!

Congrats on the completion of your epic journey Wangta and partner... Enjoy the surf for awhile!


Desi B.
Your right Desi, it is a beautiful ride I was just worried about lack of cell phone coverage on the ride. I also found Death Valley to be an easy place to get lost becuase there were so few signs even at some main junctions. I might try that ride again when it cools down a bit.
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:12 pm quote
cross country trek
wangta & friend , thanks so much for sharing your trip reports & fantastic pictures. i picked up on your trip first post & read & enjoyed all of it. thanks so much nelson
nothing at all
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:21 pm quote
the deal with the desert out here is it can play tricks on your car/bike and your mind.

the elevation between the high and low desert is enough to pay attention to not to mention the lack of water and gas stops and the hypnotic appeal of the vast areas.

a true twilight zone that can kill at the wrong time of year.

you can freeze and burn to death in the same spot with in a few months.
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm quote
Lovely ride report, Wangta-- Thanks for the vicarious pleasure!

--Deborah
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:49 pm quote
Thank you so much for being an inspiration to us all. We all enjoyed the vicarious pleasure of sharing your journey, and we are so glad that you arrived safely. What a grand adventure!
Hooked
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:46 pm quote
What a great trip! The photography was steller, scoots with mother nature is hard to beat. I would love to see a trip summary ie miles traveled each day, delays experienced, and what kind of maintainence and repairs you had to do, etc. I did catch the tires and the warranty repair. What is up with GTS tires, BTW?

Thanks again!
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:53 pm quote
here is wangta(david) in venice at my place

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greasy(aaron)tank top(ken)hp(hiram)jimmyb(jimmy)wangta(david)

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Hooked
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:13 pm quote
So Cool! Congrats Wangta/David and GF. Cheers to you both for an awesome trip and sharing it with us.
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:27 pm quote
jimmyb865 wrote:
here is wangta(david) in venice at my place

greasy(aaron)tank top(ken)hp(hiram)jimmyb(jimmy)wangta(david)
oh.. all of you all make jealous... here fellow MV in Indonesia we've never gathered like that
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:50 pm quote
Looks like fun and I am sure Greasy has already got your bikes running perfectly again.
Molto Verboso
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:25 pm quote
Wow! Unbelievable! And Vegas to L.A, now that's an E ticket!
Molto Verboso
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:48 pm quote
Inspiring post ... thanks for sharing
Petty Tyrant
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Location: Bay Area, California
Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:56 am quote
CafeMoto wrote:
There is a website called Adventure Rider http://www.advrider.com that has a section called Ride Reports, and it's one of my favorite things to read on the 'net. Jess, any chance we might get a section on MV called Ride Reports, modeled after the ADVRider forum? There is something totally inspiring about reading a great ride report, coupled with beautiful pictures. We need more of this kind of Ride Report on MV!
I always imagined that we would have such a section someday. Today is the day.

http://www.modernvespa.com/forum/forum20
Foiled
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Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:11 am quote
Jess gets a thumb up!
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No Vespas, but I gots some VW's
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Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:34 am quote
Very nice addition for following those long treks.
Moderibbit
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Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:04 pm quote
A wonderful new section, Jess, to help bullet point epic adventures such as this.
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Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:25 pm quote
Damn Jess, very cool!
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Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:18 pm quote
Great new forum, and an awesome thread. Enjoyed the read and comments both, looking forward to seeing more!
Hooked
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Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:54 pm quote
WOW!
Goose-bumpy awesome thread!

Beautiful pictures & wonderful narrative.

Great epic or mini novel.

All the makings for a movie (or book) ...

Congrats to you and your partner.

Loved every post & comment. Thanks for sharing.
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Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:14 am quote
Question for you, what are your thoughts on the tall Vespa windshield? I know you rode through some killer heat. Did you want to rip it off when it got hot? How about when it rained?

Thanks for sharing your experience with us, it was inspiring.
Hooked
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Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:27 am quote
Only just saw this thread - inspiring stuff, and great photos! Thanks for taking the time to share.
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Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:16 pm quote
Hooray awesome journey
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Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:47 am quote
Thank you for sharing your journey with us Wangta. The pictures were amazing.
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Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:24 pm quote
What an incredible feat. I applaud you both! I learned a lot from your journal if we ever decide to do something like that. And what a great way to see America!
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PX150
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Location: Seattle
Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:42 pm quote
wangta, so how was the first day on the job.. any reflections of this journey and was it worth it!?

ps love the pics with jimmy good smiles
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Fly 150
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:13 am quote
Wangta, Congrats on the completion of this epic journey. Wonderful documentary and pictures!
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Vespa 300
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:47 am quote
I love hearing about long trips, now I need my husband to go with me!
Ossessionato
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:08 am quote
scriber wrote:
Question for you, what are your thoughts on the tall Vespa windshield? I know you rode through some killer heat. Did you want to rip it off when it got hot? How about when it rained?

Thanks for sharing your experience with us, it was inspiring.
Tall/Mid windshield was critical to the trip. First off, it blocks a ton of wind which helps minimize fatigue, which is a huge factor on 8+ hour riding days. Second, on the east coast we experienced a ton of rain - the windshields really helped keep us dry. I cannot imagine how wet I would of been had it not been for the windshield (you do get a little wet - the arms especially, but torso and upper body were relatively dry @ 40 mph even in torrential downpour). Third, in EXTREME heat, the windshield also helps out - while riding to Vegas in 122 degree heat I initially put up my visor and rolled up my pant legs up to my knee. When it is that hot, the wind literally feels like its coming from a hair dryer - it felt like it was searing my skin on my legs, and given the high temperature and dryness of the air, it quickly dried out my contacts to the point that I could barely open my eyes. In such temps, having anything to block the wind (windshield, visor, etc) is helpful.

I found the windshield pretty useful in all situations, but you do have to keep in mind a couple things to most effectively use it. First, consider cutting the windshield down. My windshield came up to eye-level, which allowed me to see over it, which was helpful when it was pouring rain (rain on the wind shield is sometimes difficulty to see through - especially at night). This is a good height IMHO, because it still deflects alot of wind while still allowing you to see unimcumbered. Second, get the right jacket/pants. Windshield does protect you from the wind, which is helpful when its cold, but when its hot, it cuts out some wind which might make you hotter than usual. My jacket was CRITICAL to being comfortable in hot conditoins - with minimal wind and up to 120+ degree temps, I stayed relatively cool. The jacket/pants and windshield combo is really important, especially if you are traveling through areas with different climates/weather.
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Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:22 pm quote
Great ride report. I just read it from start to finish. I am very jealous.
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Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:17 pm quote
fantastic! Welcome to LA!
Ossessionato
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Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:39 pm quote
Hey guys - wanted to get your advice. Given my issues with the rear tire stemming from my rear tire replacment at Idaho Falls, I am trying to work out getting a partial refund from Vespa Idaho Falls (Spinners).

My rationale:

1. The exhaust gasket was put on wrong (it came completely loose 100 miles down the road) and the graphite seal was installed correctly.
2. They should of known the danger in removing the exhaust at that joint
3. They should of realized I didn't have the recall kit/recall gasket installed while doing the service - they could of looked it up on Piaggio's warranty computer system (that is what Vespa Orem did after confirming the problem with their own eyes).

The cost for the rear tire replacement and 3rd maintenance service cost a total of around $220. I have no problems paying for the actual tire (~$50-$60), and the labor and parts (oil filter, oil, etc) for the maintenance service, but I think I should get refunded the cost of labor for the rear tire since it was performed incorrectly, which could of led to a really dangerous situation (no rear brake on the highway - could of caught on fire, etc.) and DID cause us to have to delay our progress by 2 days and buy a hotel room in Vespa Provo for the same number of nights.

2 extra nights at a hotel cost us over $140 total, and opportunity cost of having to stop in Orem (we did not plan on having to stop so soon)...well, that is tough to put a price on.

What do you think? I called the mechanic at Vespa Idaho Falls to discuss this and made sure to not be accusatory, irrate, etc - calmly explained what happened and politely requested a refund for the labor for the rear tire replacement (estimated to be about 50% of the total cost of the bill - around $100 which would not even cover the hotel). I really did feel like an asshole saying it - i don't think the guy did it on purpose and do believe it was an honest mistake. But I paid the guy to do a service and know his stuff! Not sure I should have to pay for subpar service...

Thoughts?
Hooked
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Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:30 pm quote
Scootered map -- you missed NE.
Hey Wangta, I have no guidance on your question, sorry to interrupt. But I noticed that you did not mark Nebraska on your scootered map, but you crossed in to NE on day 7. No biggie, just noticed.

Peace.
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Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:35 am quote
Thanks for sharing your trip with us. That was very cool!
Hooked
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Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:30 pm quote
Communication System...
Wangta,

I noticed you were using a motorcycle headset... What was the brand/model number and how did it perform? I think I am getting a Fever for a road trip...Thanks for the inspiration....
Hooked
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Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:36 am quote
Re: Scootered map -- you missed NE.
OnePrairiePiston wrote:
Hey Wangta, I have no guidance on your question, sorry to interrupt. But I noticed that you did not mark Nebraska on your scootered map, but you crossed in to NE on day 7. No biggie, just noticed.

Peace.


Where does someone make a map like this one?
Hooked
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Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:31 pm quote
http://www.epgsoft.com/VisitedStatesMap/
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