DOT brake/tail light switch to a Euro style
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Molto Verboso
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:36 pm quote
I'm thinking of changing the DOT brake/tail light out to the Euro style.

1. Has anyone done this?
2. Which one did you buy?
3. How does it attach to the fender?
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:43 pm quote
i did it

i like the stock usa and the euro

i did the euro on my fast bike that i sold cause it makes for a godd add on for selling on a kitted bike, i had a custome fender too

the reason why say this is, one isn't any better than the other

it's more of a 'what fits' with me

i also put one on my primer p cause it matches the ancilotti seat

my et3 comes with one stock

i think i'll post a bunch of pics of my bikes

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this bike now has a ancilloti

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Molto Verboso
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:54 pm quote
Thanks Jimmy. I like the second picture one. Where did you get it? The third looks like one off my 1957 boat trailer. How did it attach?
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:00 pm quote
the second one i got from bar italia scooters, i can give you there #

i hav'nt seen many, they said it was a t5 light but i don't think so

the stand up is a stock bracket with a kragen 4.99 auxillary light,they work GREAT AND BRIGHT
Molto Verboso
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:14 pm quote
It looks different in the bottom picture. Almost looks like it's not seating quite rite on the gasket. Or is it the picture?
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:24 pm quote
yea, i dont know

i know i poured over the placement for ever, so that thing was set perfect

the rubber it comes with is actually formed for one position with not much room for possibilities.
Molto Verboso
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:36 pm quote
It's probably the angle of the picture. But now I'm on the fence again in regards to the two in the bottom of your pic's.
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:43 pm quote
the one on the 210 looks kinda like a lml light to me?

and i think the other one is the old style like early nineties hmm i sound like a wally nerd oh well

ill try and get my shitty camera to work
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:56 pm quote
heres mine its different again

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Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:58 pm quote
another angle

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Molto Verboso
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:03 pm quote
Thanks for the pic's. I think the chrome would look good on mine.

P.S. Like the shoes.
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:44 pm quote
jimmyb865 wrote:
the second one i got from bar italia scooters, i can give you there #

i hav'nt seen many, they said it was a t5 light but i don't think so

the stand up is a stock bracket with a kragen 4.99 auxillary light,they work GREAT AND BRIGHT
that's a PK rear light.

best,
-greasy
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:23 am quote
jimmyb865 wrote:
i hav'nt seen many, they said it was a t5 light but i don't think so
Looks like a PK taillight to me.
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:25 am quote
I'm probably one of the few that likes the US-specific tail lights. For one reason, it makes it obvious the history of the bike - i can tell it was one of the 1979-1982ish P-series that was legitimately imported to the US and sold at a dealership here.
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:20 am quote
Rover Eric wrote:
I'm probably one of the few that likes the US-specific tail lights. For one reason, it makes it obvious the history of the bike - i can tell it was one of the 1979-1982ish P-series that was legitimately imported to the US and sold at a dealership here.
i totally agree, until you make mods

once i changed the fender and seat, it was a matter of time for the light

my primer p will get a redo one day, and when it does i'll loose the anci seat for a nice stock bencher and replace the stand up light.

i even have a new lense for the stand up

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Molto Verboso
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:27 am quote
Rover Eric wrote:
I'm probably one of the few that likes the US-specific tail lights. For one reason, it makes it obvious the history of the bike - i can tell it was one of the 1979-1982ish P-series that was legitimately imported to the US and sold at a dealership here.
I like it better as well.

For a fleeting moment when I first got my P I thought about changing it out, but then i started looking at pictures of P-series bikes a lot. I like that's its unique to just a few years. Now I look at P's with the euro light and I think it looks kinda boring (no offense).

Meh, whatever floats your boat I guess.
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:29 am quote
I think if there was never any such thing as the Stella or the new PX150, i'd be all about switching.

But every one of those bikes rocks the euro taillight... so i think it's actually somewhat less common to see someone doing the original US DOT one. I appreciate when someone keeps it. It's like they acknowledge it's not the prettiest thing, but it's the way it came.
Molto Verboso
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:26 am quote
Thanks for the opinions. I'm comming down off that fence. I also think the DOT style has more reflection from the side view which could be a good thing.
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:27 am quote
yep, it is the few that keep

but out here it's all about flash when selling something flashy, and i venture to say that the kid from newport would have, having the choice, taken the euro when he bought it

i did see my buddys resto kitted(stroked, ported, reeded and piped) p with the stand up and it looks great, he rocked a new bench seat as well.

stock on the outside-fast as hell on the inside
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:39 am quote
hahaha you lot put our standard lights on and we pull them off. I threw away a smoked square arse light cos I dropped it down the celler stairs and cracked it. Get some tunnel lights sunk in
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:48 am quote
I'm not a huge fan of the euro style taillights on MOST vespas. Like the PK one, or the PX one, ... or even the 70's one they used on Rally's and Sprints.

In my mind they just look like a big red plastic box.

I don't know why they ever left the coolness of the chromed 60's ones: the acorn taillight, the GL150 / SS180 taillight, the one on the SS90, those were some cool ones.
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:54 am quote
on a P racer...I'm going with the Euro light...it just looks correct on a set up like that..but I do agree that the tractor style tail light looks good on stock P's
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:34 am quote
VLBJS1 wrote:
on a P racer...I'm going with the Euro light...it just looks correct on a set up like that..but I do agree that the tractor style tail light looks good on stock P's
Naaaaa you want a smooth arse on a racer

http://www.sip-scootershop.com/EN/Products/56096000/Taillight+tunnel+kit+Stealth.aspx

SIP wins again
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:39 am quote
I agree with T5, BUT ...i would cut a hole in the back of the frame and sink in the taillight from a '59 Cadillac. You'll get plenty of comments on THAT!



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Molto Verboso
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:42 am quote
Rover Eric wrote:
I agree with T5, BUT ...i would cut a hole in the back of the frame and sink in the taillight from a '59 Cadillac. You'll get plenty of comments on THAT!
That would be wicked.
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:52 am quote
Those are some beautiful P's, Jimmy.

So they are just coated with primer and then some sort of laquer is put on? Snazzy. Giving me some ideas for my P. The Rustoleum primer I bought is kind of a dirty cream and it coats real well...and doesn't look half bad. Smooths out very nice as well. Hmmn.

(sorry to threadjack, all)
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:00 am quote
why thanx, i like to play with different set ups

my favorite so far is the stand up wit the black round 4.99 kragen

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Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:03 am quote
T5bitsa69 wrote:
VLBJS1 wrote:
on a P racer...I'm going with the Euro light...it just looks correct on a set up like that..but I do agree that the tractor style tail light looks good on stock P's
Naaaaa you want a smooth arse on a racer

http://www.sip-scootershop.com/EN/Products/56096000/Taillight+tunnel+kit+Stealth.aspx

SIP wins again
I've seen that done..those are very nice. Just more shit to add to my list..thanks buddy
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:06 am quote
Rover Eric wrote:
I agree with T5, BUT ...i would cut a hole in the back of the frame and sink in the taillight from a '59 Cadillac. You'll get plenty of comments on THAT!

Ha! I don't want something that looks like a dogs boner sticking out of the back of my scoot.
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:07 am quote
VLBJS1 wrote:
Ha! I don't want something that looks like a dogs boner sticking out of the back of my scoot.
It's a sign of virility! It'll be like you're in an Axe bodyspray commercial, peeling the girls off of you ...all because of your boner taillight.
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:10 am quote
Rover Eric wrote:
VLBJS1 wrote:
Ha! I don't want something that looks like a dogs boner sticking out of the back of my scoot.
It's a sign of virility! It'll be like you're in an Axe bodyspray commercial, peeling the girls off of you ...all because of your boner taillight.
Man..only if that AXE shit really did worked that way
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:22 am quote
Axe don't you mean lynx.... theres a few cutdowns with caddy lights over here just cant find any pix ...... one has the arse smoothed and the lights blended into the panels

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Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:28 am quote
Probably the same smelly shit ..just different names on different sides of the pond.

You know how we like our cologne to have violent names, and all.
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Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:48 pm quote
I also like the American taillights. For one thing, on older scooters, euro taillights scream 'adulterated'.

I always liked the american ones, though. Maybe im part because they were on every new Vespa in California in the 70s/80s.

Those CEV lights were also used on Ducatis and other Italian imports. They are becoming quite rare and expensive. There's someone on Ebay selling on NOS for $150, just the lens and reflector.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-DUCATI-750GT-860GT-900SS-CEV-9350-TAIL-LIGHT-BEVEL_W0QQitemZ120397357642QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item1c083de24a&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245#ht_500wt_854
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