Sometimes life is unfair
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Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:50 am quote
Sometimes life is unfair. I caught this poor vespa geting ticketed outside J&R Music in Manhattan this morning.

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:04 am quote
I swear in nyc they would ticket a dog if it sat in one spot to long for loitering! Gotta love NY.
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Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:31 pm quote
What the heck for?!!
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Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:38 pm quote
jridg wrote:
What the heck for?!!
Thats a fire hydrant on the bottom right - and the scoot is within 15'.
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Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:50 pm quote
For you new york pepes - you remember that picture in the NY Post after the blackout of 2003 that showed a teenage boy directing traffic while a policeman was in the background writing a police ticket? Classic picture, wish I could find it somewhere and post it here. I think that picture pretty much summed up the NYPD's love for parking tickets.
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Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:07 pm quote
If you're going to park illegally, don't do it right in front of City Hall.
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Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:59 pm quote
In most normal places it's 10 feet for the hydrant. It's like they have it out for the scoots!
Molto Verboso
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Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:19 pm quote
Wangta01 wrote:
For you new york pepes - you remember that picture in the NY Post after the blackout of 2003 that showed a teenage boy directing traffic while a policeman was in the background writing a police ticket? Classic picture, wish I could find it somewhere and post it here. I think that picture pretty much summed up the NYPD's love for parking tickets.
Un-be-liev-able.
Some guys in a uniform
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Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:39 am quote
Wangta01 wrote:
jridg wrote:
What the heck for?!!
Thats a fire hydrant on the bottom right - and the scoot is within 15'.
It's not like they couldn't just move it out of the way if they needed to get to the hydrant. What a spoil sport.
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Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:07 am quote
It's fifteen feet in my town, too, and I don't have a problem allowing firefighters easy access to fire hydrants. I would never park near one.
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Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:16 pm quote
FarSideMan wrote:
...I don't have a problem allowing firefighters easy access to fire hydrants. I would never park near one.
Me, either. What if it was your house on fire?
Molto Verboso
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Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:25 pm quote
I don't think the firemen would hesitate one second and just knock the scoot out of the way with their truck.
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:39 am quote
Let's all say it together:

Revenue
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:14 am quote
Look again at the store front accross the street, could the guy with the white helmet be the owner helping someone out? Looks like he is talking to a child, maybe buying a paper or sitting on a bicycle ?
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:28 am quote
Ifixjets wrote:
Look again at the store front accross the street, could the guy with the white helmet be the owner helping someone out? Looks like he is talking to a child, maybe buying a paper or sitting on a bicycle ?
I’ll bet your right!

“But officer, I was only in the store for a minute!”
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:31 am quote
No offense but the guy deserved a ticket. It's too close to the hydrant and it's not at a meter.

I'm as pro scooter as anyone but why do scooterists have this sense of entitlement? Obey the laws just like everyone else, and you won't have to worry about getting a ticket.

Doug
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:32 am quote
No thats another cop writing the poor kid a jay-walking ticket.
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:35 am quote
Sorry Folks....but I've got to be honest. Being an ex volunteer fireman and emergency medical technician on a rescue squad....I have a hard time feeling sympathy for someone who parks closer to a fire hydrant than the law allows. And no....the firemen that I know would not just knock the scooter over with their truck!
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:31 am quote
I think firefighters are awesome - and in many cases quite inventive

See the following as proof:

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Molto Verboso
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:41 am quote
That reminds me of that scene in the movie Backdraft with Kurt Russell.

I think they did that in that movie.
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:33 pm quote
If I can I won't park near a hydrant, but if I have to then I count out the steps for 15ft. Also this guy was asking for it since like other said it too close to city hall. And lastly your suppose to park with the rear facing inwards. So he might have gotten hit with a few tickets.

They got me once for park too close to a no parking sign, went to court and judge didn't even get to the fact before dismissed my ticket ...for not being filled out correctly! And it was the electronic kind!!

hehe.

X
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:01 pm quote
In the UK, and as far as I am aware across Europe, fire hydrants rise vertically from beneath the sidewalk, not horizontaly. That means, for example, that instead of irresponsibly smashing their way through an innocent driver's car, firemen can even more quickly place the hose between vehicles because any hose can be deployed in a 360 degree circle from the hydrant simply by bending the hose as it comes out of the hydrant set below street level.
Molto Verboso
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:11 pm quote
I think the firemen in that picture did the window thing to make a point.

That car should not have been there and by the way, the owner is not innocent.
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:49 pm quote
salty dodd wrote:
I think the firemen in that picture did the window thing to make a point.

That car should not have been there and by the way, the owner is not innocent.
Exactly - Someone who clearly violated the law, and in turn, endangers other's lives by blocking the firefighter's access deserves what they get....

Ok - we are now officially off-topic
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:53 pm quote
Why should theFiremen and Police have to worry about not getting to the equipment (firehydrant) to HELP someone. I can't believe people are so disrespectful about those things. If it was their house or car, scooter on fire you want them to be able to get to it without figuring how to get your hose around a car, motorhome etc. In my town people don't even pull over for a siren (they don't want to slow down and get out of line of traffic) so the Firemen and Police have to weave thru traffic and fight their way just to get to a fire or accident then to have some idiot (obvious those rules don't apply to them) parked and they can't get to the hydrant.
Ticket away!!!!
Pat
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:47 pm quote
Its 15 feet in NYC I got one in my car 14 feet from the pump.
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