New Tire Jack
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Molto Verboso
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:07 pm quote
So my New Rear Tire Jack came in the mail today.
The new Jack is great.
I thought it would take two people to put it
up on the Jack, but it was very easy for one person.
This jack can even fit in my glove box.






















Rob

Last edited by Music on Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:25 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:29 pm quote
looks good
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:25 pm quote
Nice! I just ordered one too.

Dumb question - do you put put the center stands down first, then life the back and put the jack under the engine case? Or do you wedge the jack in at an angle, then put the center stand down which will life the rear as the jack straightens?

Cheers.
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:05 pm quote
Just curious where it came from?
How much?
Also how long is it?
Could have used one 2 days ago.
Luckily I found a tree root/stump to use instead.
May not always be able to find the same handy tree root again though.
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:12 pm quote
http://www.scooterwest.com/item_detail/Vintage-Vespa-Tire-Jack/2946/

It's about 10" (that's what she said).

Don't know if I would try this, maybe using a coconut juice can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPihKg7nEp0&feature=PlayList&p=5C631672F798FC11&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=18
cuttlefish wrote:
Just curious where it came from?
How much?
Also how long is it?
Could have used one 2 days ago.
Luckily I found a tree root/stump to use instead.
May not always be able to find the same handy tree root again though.
Molto Verboso
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:42 pm quote
Quote:
do you put put the center stands down first, then life the back and put the jack under the engine case?
Yes.

I put a 2 by 4 under the stand feet and it worked perfectly.
I can't say anything other than WOW, it's a great tool.
I have changed many rear tires, and this was the easiest of all.
You just need to let all(or most) of the air out before
you take the tire off the scooter.

For the $25.00(including shipping) it's well worth it.

It's smaller than you may think, fits in the glove box.
Quote:

Don't know if I would try this, maybe using a coconut juice can.
This is much more stable


I got mine from here
http://www.clevelandscooters.com/catalog/i125.html



Rob
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:19 pm quote
Great Minds...and all that crap. Got my Shipment from Motorsport / Scooterwest today; 30% Off @ Free Shipping...Love those guys.

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Molto Verboso
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:28 pm quote
Your shop looks a lot cleaner than mine



Rob
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:18 pm quote
how the hell do you get the 30% off and free shipping?
nothing at all
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:21 pm quote
they had an aniversary party




i missed out
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:37 am quote
didnt anyone see this one last time I posted the link
https://beedspeed.com/product_info.php/products_id/4581
it wont ding up your tool box either
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:30 am quote
T5bitsa69 wrote:
didnt anyone see this one last time I posted the link
https://beedspeed.com/product_info.php/products_id/4581
it wont ding up your tool box either
That's neat!
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:44 am quote
Id have one if it wasnt chrome and I had a centerstand
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:26 am quote
T5bitsa69 wrote:
Id have one if it wasnt chrome and I had a centerstand
With you on both those counts!!

Clive
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:39 am quote
i just chuck the scoot on its side
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Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:46 am quote
pajd wrote:
i just chuck the scoot on its side
you know how hard it is to match rattle can satin black
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Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:49 am quote
Nobody did answer the question: what is the procedure for using this simple jack? Do you prop it in place and then pull the scooter up on its center stand? That sounds like a two-person operation - one to hold the scooter up straight, and the other to make sure the jack stays in place while person #1 hauls the scooter up on its center stand.
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Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:57 am quote
id guess..... put scoot on center stand then grab its arse while you fight to put prop in
nothing at all
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Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:05 am quote
from what i'v seen is


there is space between the front wheel and ground

the jack uses that space so the bike has 4 points of contact

jack-front-two stand legs

BUT if your stand is tweaked and you don't have much room between the front wheel and ground than you will strugle

right or wrong
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Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:05 am quote
smallstate wrote:
how the hell do you get the 30% off and free shipping?
yeah, I missed out to . I ordered a full cable set and some spare parts.
Bummer...
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Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:24 pm quote
here's mine... small, compact and easy to put in...
no need energy to lift your vespa and fit in my glovebox

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Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:42 pm quote
veloce75 wrote:
here's mine... small, compact and easy to put in...
no need energy to lift your vespa and fit in my glovebox

Sweeetttt!!! where can i find it????
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:17 am quote
pajd wrote:
i just chuck the scoot on its side
on the grass with the engine pod off. in the shop i got a stump of wood
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:29 am quote
jimmyb865 wrote:
from what i'v seen is


there is space between the front wheel and ground

the jack uses that space so the bike has 4 points of contact

jack-front-two stand legs

BUT if your stand is tweaked and you don't have much room between the front wheel and ground than you will strugle

right or wrong
ur right jimmyb.. i have those problems too with my vbb as i have 10"rear rims and tyre so my front wheel always touch the ground when i use the centre stand.. what a bummer so i have to put smth under the centrestand before i can lift the rear tyre
Molto Verboso
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:47 am quote
Quote:
from what Iíve seen is


there is space between the front wheel and ground

the jack uses that space so the bike has 4 points of contact

jack-front-two stand legs
Yes, and I also put a piece of wood under the center stand
and the front wheel is off the ground. It really
only takes one person, and it was not awkward.


Rob
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:51 am quote
robbyrivai wrote:
Sweeetttt!!! where can i find it????
well... that's oldstuff and I found it on flea market at poncol...
might be you can find similar like that at kawan lama
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Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:41 pm quote
new tire jack
the most simple way i found to remove rear wheel, remove engine cover lay scooter on right side unbolt wheel & remove no special tools required. try it.
Molto Verboso
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Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:20 pm quote
Quote:
the most simple way i found to remove rear wheel, remove engine
cover lay scooter on right side unbolt wheel & remove no special
tools required. try it.
If you have a full tank of gas, putting the scooter on it's side
is not that convenient, you get gas all over the place.
If you blow a tire on the road, finding a place to lay
it down might not be so easy.
Also, When you put your scooter on it's side,
sometimes it's harder to start(and the gunk at the bottom
of your gear oil(metal pieces maybe) that have settled out
can get back in your gears. You also have to put it on the side with the
kick start lever, which I don't like putting weight
on(the lever). You can also change your gear oil
very easily at the same time as you change your rear tire,
you canít do that with scooter on it's side.
For the price of $15.00, I'll take the tool.


There are many things I can do
without the proper tools(and still get it done),
but it's so much easier, and convient
with good tools.


Rob
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:20 am quote
new tire jack
use your jack i'll lay mine over any day instead of jack, try laying over you'll see how much easier it is.
Molto Verboso
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:43 am quote
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try laying over you'll see how much easier it is.
This will be my last post on this topic.............
since you have never used this Jack(and don't know me), I don't know
how you can make any comparisons.
I just got the jack(it's new), I used to do it your way(for many years)
and many other ways(with other Jacks).
I've changed many tires, on my own Vespas, Lambretta, Malaguti, Suzuki', and my old Honda, and probably others. If you go into
any professional shop, the scooters are propped
up on a jack on the table to be repaired.

It was just a suggestion to make the task easier.


Good luck








Rob
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:52 am quote
What you really need is a two-ton jack, just to make sure you've got something that can handle all that weight!

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Beginning of renovation on my P200E

Molto Verboso
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Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:26 pm quote
Re: New Tire Jack
Music wrote:
So my New Rear Tire Jack came in the mail today.
The new Jack is great.
I thought it would take two people to put it
up on the Jack, but it was very easy for one person.
This jack can even fit in my glove box.






















Rob
Hey Rob thanks for the pics. I'm new and didn't how to use it.
Thanks!
Molto Verboso
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Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:31 pm quote
No problem.


Rob
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Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:51 pm quote
I can't remember shit anymore, but isn't that a Bajaj model jack, or at least a copy of the old Bajaj jacks? Not that it matters...

To put it on the stand with one person:

Leave scooter on center stand (or without, depending on whether you are coordinated and/or strong)

Put jack on shock mount

Put foot on jack

Press with foot while pulling scooter back (grabbing at the front of the seat).

Voila.

You can do it without the centerstand if you have a sidestand but you have to be coordinated enough to balance the scoot with one hand while positioning the jack.

On that point - I hate the damned things. On the road I just find a brick or something, or lay it down, but with an expansion chamber I gots to remove the exhaust to change the tire anyway, esp since I am running a 130 rear tire.
Molto Verboso
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Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:31 am quote
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On the road I just find a brick or something
I know that I probably posted this on another
thread, but I've used this jack on the road,
and it was really helpful. I'm not sure were you live,
but it's not always that easy to find bricks laying around.
This jack is small enough to fit easily on the scooter.

I know That some people can also use a
high curb to change their back tire.
But, if I don't have to push it(does not roll at all), or look for
a brick (when I almost killed myself on
my scoot when the back tire blew out)
it's nice to be carrying the solution.

I don't care if it's not an original Piaggio part.



Rob
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Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:16 am quote
I saw the OP's jack a couple of years ago that gave me the idea for this:



It's made of these pieces. Fender washer with welded on nut. 5/16" threaded rod. Wrist pin with welded on flat stock curved piece.



The first pic was a quicky. I normally place it straight up or tilted slightly back to help keep the center stand locked. Turn the nut under the shiny piece to raise.

Threaded rod - 6.5" long

Wrist pin (pipe) 3" long.

No flats yet, but I have used it four times for practice. On a P, leave it in neutral, hold your mouth just right, pull down and turn the hub and the wheel and when the planets align, the wheel comes off. That pesky plastic/rubber bumper is aggravating. The jack fits easily in my tool pouch.
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Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:51 pm quote
JohnJay wrote:
Great Minds...and all that crap. Got my Shipment from Motorsport / Scooterwest today; 30% Off @ Free Shipping...Love those guys.
Hey, I don't know bout the jack, but , I do like those sneakers!
I have a pair of repro 1922 black 5 Chucks.
Sorry, to hy-jack the tread. I just notice those things.
Keep on working on that tire, don't let me distract you.
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Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:37 pm quote
New Tire Jack
Hi Veloce75,

I think you can help us and friends who want to buy vespa jack that you displayed on internet. You can do business as a patent holder against a target of manufacturing, asking if he would produce the equipment and sell it online.
By doing so you could help many vespa lover from trouble when changing their flat tire.
Thank you for your help.
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