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Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:47 am quote
Hello all,
thanks for having me,
I'm looking to change the headlamp bulb on my Fly 50, since it is very very dim, are there any suggestions as to what I can install? A 55w halogen would be nice, but I've heard there may be issues with the voltage/current supply at that wattage......
thanks in advance
Richard
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Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:04 am quote
Welcome. You don't have much choice here if you have a UK bike... I take it you're in the IOM? If you go to the bike section of Halford you can get a Bosch Ba20d fitting 35w halogen, but that is the limit.
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Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:09 am quote
Hi, thanks Doug,
if I changed the lamp fitting to a H4, would the alternator be able to supply a 55w H4 lamp successfully?
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Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:14 am quote
You can't change it unfortunately without major expense. New headlight unit from Europe no less. And the stator might struggle. Try the 35W halogen Ba20d, it is MUCH better than the standard 35W scooter bulb, honest!
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Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:16 am quote
I'll give the halogen option a go, thank you

does anyone know the alternators output please?
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Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:24 am quote
DougL wrote:
Welcome. You don't have much choice here if you have a UK bike... I take it you're in the IOM? If you go to the bike section of Halford you can get a Bosch Ba20d fitting 35w halogen, but that is the limit.
Does this mean the 55W halogen would work with a USA bike?

If so, what is the difference?
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Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:45 am quote
Some of the Euro models pre 2008 had a 55/60 halogen as standard. Some LT Liberty models have the same light unit...

http://www.easyparts.nl/showdrawing/876/32112/-/0-968-1-m420-m875-m2325-s876-d32112/Front_lights.html
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Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:46 am quote
Just get hid kit (h4 6000k) from v-LEDs.com... So bright and draw 35 watts, better than halogen bulb 55watt.
I know a guy who got hid kit for his fly to get rid of dim stock bulb. Go and buy hid kit!
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:58 pm quote
micbergsma wrote:
Just get hid kit (h4 6000k) from v-LEDs.com... So bright and draw 35 watts, better than halogen bulb 55watt.
I know a guy who got hid kit for his fly to get rid of dim stock bulb. Go and buy hid kit!
Hey quick question, what does it take to install a HID kit? Is it plug and play or what? I am planing on up grading soon and dont want to put hours into my fly and then sell it.. Thanks!
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:26 pm quote
Only 3 months this time...
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:31 pm quote
jimc wrote:
Only 3 months this time...
Damn, i promise i'm not trying to bring back dead threads! lol
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:36 pm quote
I used to work for Genuine Scooters and we constantly had customers calling who wanted to upgrade the lights on their Buddys to something brighter. The Buddy had a 35/35W bulb. Because of the rather weak electrical system going to a 55w/60w bulb was not an option as it would overpower the system.

There is one bulb that we frequently recommended to give them more light and they were great performing but expensive. These are powerful and about the only safe solution to the problem on a bike with weaker electrical systems.

I personally recommend these 35/35W bulbs after seeing them in person on several bikes. They are definitely much brighter than a standard 35/35w bulb. If I was in your situation I would use these.

I hope this information helps. Double check to make sure this is the exact model you need. You may find them cheaper after doing your own internet search.

PIAA HS1 SUPER PLASMA GT-X Wattage- 35/35W = 60/60W



http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/part_number=PIA70473/353.0

Last edited by VEZPA on Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:41 pm; edited 3 times in total
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:40 pm quote
VollgasHero wrote:
jimc wrote:
Only 3 months this time...
Damn, i promise i'm not trying to bring back dead threads! lol
It's not a complete no-no, but if you do, give a reason for it - and there can be many good reasons for so doing.

Just replying to a long dead topic is - well - a bit exhausting shall we say for those of us who lived through it in the first place.

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Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:42 pm quote
VEZPA wrote:
I used to work for Genuine Scooters and we constantly had customers calling who wanted to upgrade the lights on their Buddys to something brighter. The Buddy had a 35/35W bulb. Because of the rather weak electrical system going to a 55w/60w bulb was not an option as it would overpower the system.

There is one bulb that we frequently recommended to give them more light and they were great performing but expensive. These are powerful and about the only safe solution to the problem on a bike with weaker electrical systems.

I personally recommend these 35/35W bulbs after seeing them in person on several bikes. They are definitely much brighter than a standard 35/35w bulb. If I was in your situation I would use these.

I hope this information helps. Double check to make sure this is the exact model you need. You may find them cheaper after doing your own internet search.

PIAA HS1 SUPER PLASMA GT-X Wattage- 35/35W = 60/60W



http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/part_number=PIA70473/353.0
What is involved in installing one of these? Is it complicated?
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:44 pm quote
VollgasHero wrote:
VEZPA wrote:
I used to work for Genuine Scooters and we constantly had customers calling who wanted to upgrade the lights on their Buddys to something brighter. The Buddy had a 35/35W bulb. Because of the rather weak electrical system going to a 55w/60w bulb was not an option as it would overpower the system.

There is one bulb that we frequently recommended to give them more light and they were great performing but expensive. These are powerful and about the only safe solution to the problem on a bike with weaker electrical systems.

I personally recommend these 35/35W bulbs after seeing them in person on several bikes. They are definitely much brighter than a standard 35/35w bulb. If I was in your situation I would use these.

I hope this information helps. Double check to make sure this is the exact model you need. You may find them cheaper after doing your own internet search.

PIAA HS1 SUPER PLASMA GT-X Wattage- 35/35W = 60/60W



http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/part_number=PIA70473/353.0
What is involved in installing one of these? Is it complicated?
It's just a regular bulb swap, same as putting a regular stock one back in. 20 min job. It's just a more quality, higher performance bulb.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:46 pm quote
VEZPA wrote:
VollgasHero wrote:
VEZPA wrote:
I used to work for Genuine Scooters and we constantly had customers calling who wanted to upgrade the lights on their Buddys to something brighter. The Buddy had a 35/35W bulb. Because of the rather weak electrical system going to a 55w/60w bulb was not an option as it would overpower the system.

There is one bulb that we frequently recommended to give them more light and they were great performing but expensive. These are powerful and about the only safe solution to the problem on a bike with weaker electrical systems.

I personally recommend these 35/35W bulbs after seeing them in person on several bikes. They are definitely much brighter than a standard 35/35w bulb. If I was in your situation I would use these.

I hope this information helps. Double check to make sure this is the exact model you need. You may find them cheaper after doing your own internet search.

PIAA HS1 SUPER PLASMA GT-X Wattage- 35/35W = 60/60W



http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/part_number=PIA70473/353.0
What is involved in installing one of these? Is it complicated?
It's just a regular bulb swap, same as putting a regular stock one back in. 20 min job.
Oh no way! Are they also a wider spread (as in cover a little bit more area, not so focused in one spot)? Also thanks for the help!
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:52 pm quote
Consider a 'both lamps on' mod. When you switch to high-beam, the low beam stays on.

May not be wise for battery longevity on the 50, but works fine for the 250cc+ brigade.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:56 pm quote
jimc wrote:
Consider a 'both lamps on' mod. When you switch to high-beam, the low beam stays on.

May not be wise for battery longevity on the 50, but works fine for the 250cc+ brigade.
Yeah see that's the problem, i am trying to save power in the battery.. i have some plans for the power and i am trying to get the head light and tail light using minimal power but are just as bright if not more.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:06 pm quote
Be careful about the heat from any high wattge bulb. The lens is plastic and cannot stand high temperatures.
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