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Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:57 pm quote
I've not installed this yet but have done a dry build and everything fits with a few small modifications. This will work on both a GT/GTS and an LX as the speedo gearing is the same in both. I've done this work primarily for my LX but as it's a long way from completion I'll be setting it up on my GT first.

It should provide a 40% increase in braking deceleration on the GT and a 12% increase over the already great stock LX brakes.

Parts needed:
LX Caliper mount (5602865)
GT/GTS front hub (598654)
GT/GTS front disk (564573)
GT/GTS rear caliper (CM074101)

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There is a groove on the caliper mount to clear the screws holding the disk. This groove must be made 5mm wider to clear the GT disk.

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showing the wider groove clears the screws.

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The GT/GTS rear caliper is almost the same as the LX front. The one key difference is that the mount holes are set 10mm further from the center of the piston. This positions the caliper 10mm further from the hub center making room for the 220mm disk

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The caliper has about 5mm clearance to the LX rim.



Last edited by oopsclunkthud on Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:15 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:15 pm quote
Nice out-of-the-box thinking, Patrick!
Hooked
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Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:04 pm quote
Just to be sure...

on a GTS you only need a LX caliper mount and GTS rear caliper mounted on the front fork of the GTS, right ?
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Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:18 pm quote
MOD-Vesp-FR wrote:
Just to be sure...

on a GTS you only need a LX caliper mount and GTS rear caliper mounted on the front fork of the GTS, right ?
correct, I've added part numbers above. due to some other small differences in the caliper mount where the shock attaches it looks like it's going to lower the front by about 2-3mm as well. I'll be installing it this next weekend and will add to the report.
Hooked
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:17 pm quote
Thanks.

Looks like a cheap conversion, only 109,60 of parts needed for a GTS.

Keep us informed on the upgrading and feeling.
Would be a nice alternative to the Brembo option from Jettin.
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Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:17 pm quote
Got the install done and did a loop around the block. I think I've still got a bit of air in the system as it's a bit mushy. Also the pads are still bedding in.

First impressions are not amazing, we'll see after the air and bedding in is sorted.

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Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:16 pm quote
Well, it's not a good conversion on the GT. In fact it's a huge step backward on the GT. On the LX is should be quite nice but that report will have to wait till I get my LX done.
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Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:18 am quote
oopsclunkthud wrote:
Well, it's not a good conversion on the GT. In fact it's a huge step backward on the GT. On the LX is should be quite nice but that report will have to wait till I get my LX done.
No news on the conversion fitted to the LX ?
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm quote
What is supposed to be the advantage in the mod?
My two '05 GT200Ls have great brakes. I can't immagine how they could be improved.
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:05 pm quote
This conversion on the GT (assuming you change the master as well) gives only a 3% increase over the stock GT.

But done on the LX it gives a 40% increase. With any luck I should be able to report results by the end of this weekend.
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