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Ossessionato
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Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:25 pm quote
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/mcy/1914131855.html

In the photos it has the yellow boots, and is all Elvis vegas-like in it's chrome..
Quote:
I've got a restored 1962 Vespa 150 we purchased from a gentleman from Corona a few years ago. He did the restoration so I can speak much of the job. I've had some maintenance work done by the Scooter store in Orange. It runs great, all the electrical works. It's Pearl white with white seats. Very clean and just really have no room to keep it. Thanks for looking

Asking 2800.00

Serious inquires please email and I'll email you back promptly. Thanks again!
I didn't know Corona was a town in Vietnam!
Ossessionato
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Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:27 pm quote
Yellow, chromey, yellow boots, weird windsield...
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/mcy/1912841152.html
Quote:
Clean 1964 Vespa Sprint for sale. Includes single seat, double seat, windshield, and front mounted spare tire. Runs great and have pink slip. Any questions call (818) 427-3714
Molto Verboso
79 P200e, 81 100 Sport
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Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:24 pm quote
Again, the craigslist links are going to expire in 30 days.

The useful life of this thread will be greatly extended if you post the text and pics rather than just the craigslist link.

I realize it is more work.
Ossessionato
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Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:04 pm quote
Jeremy W wrote:
Again, the craigslist links are going to expire in 30 days.

The useful life of this thread will be greatly extended if you post the text and pics rather than just the craigslist link.

I realize it is more work.
I posted the complete text from the link and a description of the photo. You do know you can post the photos if it bothers you so much, as the links are still valid...
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Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:34 pm quote
I'm a big fan of pictures

Will hot links do?


I'm sad if that color and the windshield are signs of a bodge
because I like them
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Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:27 pm quote
It is to laff. The below is a local ad which I felt you all would enjoy immensely. Adds a new twist to truth in advertising:

This is a 1965 Vespa Piaggio. It is an Asian Restoration, which means that it is a Frankenstein of a lot of different bikes. It has a larger wheel conversion on it. The engine starts really easily and runs fine, however, there is something wrong with the clutch cables (won't shift past second), and the brake handle broke off when I was transporting it. It has "Collectors Plates" so you don't have to pay registration every year.

I am selling this as furniture... it has a nice paint job and would look really cool in your game room or your restaurant. It would also be great if you were wanting to part it out to fix up other bikes. It is not currently road worthy. Asian restorations could potentially be dangerous. If you are buying this to fix and ride, please read up on the internet about them. I have ridden the thing around quite a bit and not had any problems (besides the clutch recently), however, buyer beware. The title is in my name, however I lost the actual title. We can go during business hours to the title place and have it transferred into your name and you will receive a full title.

Price is negotiable after Wednesday, although I'd like to stick to $1000 for the first couple of days.

Necessary Craigslist Rules (to save us both a lot of time/trouble). I do not reply to people who cannot follow these common sense rules.
1. If you are seeing this listing, then the item is still available. Do not send an email simply asking ?You still have it??. I will take the listing down when it sells.
2. Do not contact me unless you are serious. Don't waste my time setting up a meeting if you "don't have the money right now".
3. First come, first served, cash in hand only. I do not take personal checks, paypal, food stamps, unscratched lotto tickets, etc. I cannot hold it until your next paycheck comes in, your palimony check arrives, etc.
4. You can come see the stuff in downtown Olympia. I will not drive to Seattle or meet you in Tacoma.
5. You MUST make some kind of specific reference to the item in your email or I will assume you are a spambot.
6. If these rules make me seem like a jerk, then either you have never sold anything on Craigslist, or you are one of the people that does these obnoxious things, and I therefore, do not care if you call/email me.

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Hooked
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Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:54 pm quote
hotlinks will expire in 30 days too. I've linked some hosted photos.

Identifiers: yellow boots, painted rims, multiple chrome accessories, trapezoidal headlight, and legshield mounted spare tire w/ that glovebox/flap thing.

Things like the colour and windshield are NOT signs of a bodge in and of themselves. Many of the visual clues to a bodge have their roots in 50s/60s accessorised/mod-styled scooters (I've attached a couple of photos). So there is nothing "wrong" about a windshield, chrome accessories, etc. It is just that they have become more indicative of a bodge than a mod scooter nowadays. The chances are that if you come across a scooter with tonnes of chrome and accessories, it is a bodge. If you come across a heavily accessorised scooter and it has original paint and rust, then buy it quick because you've just found a goldmine

And that particular bodge doesn't look awful to me. It's what is beneath the paint that is sure to be disturbing.



Here are a couple of photos illustrating where bodges often take some of their inspiration from. Notice the 2-tone paint, lots of chrome accessories, 2-tone seats, and windshield. Neither of these scooters are bodges. The scooter in the first photo is an ACMA with original paint and accessories. The GS in the second photo is not original paint but has some very expensive/rare period accessories.

Molto Verboso
79 P200e, 81 100 Sport
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Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:50 am quote
Desmolicious wrote:
Jeremy W wrote:
Again, the craigslist links are going to expire in 30 days.

The useful life of this thread will be greatly extended if you post the text and pics rather than just the craigslist link.

I realize it is more work.
I posted the complete text from the link and a description of the photo. You do know you can post the photos if it bothers you so much, as the links are still valid...
Yeah, what the fuck do I know right? The Rovers Bodge thread which was linked on this site over and over as a great resource lost its ooomph as the links expired and pictures became blank boxes.

I am just trying to think of others and keep the thread useful. Sorry for that.

Ossessionato
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Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:55 am quote
Jeremy W wrote:
Yeah, what the fuck do I know right? The Rovers Bodge thread which was linked on this site over and over as a great resource lost its ooomph as the links expired and pictures became blank boxes.

I am just trying to think of others and keep the thread useful. Sorry for that.

Well then , post some pics. You can do it too.
Participate instead of just spectate.
Hooked
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Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:23 am quote
Recent unpleasantness/peevishness
Y'all play nice, now.....
Ossessionato
2009 Vespa GTS 250, TBA
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Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:40 am quote
Re: Recent unpleasantness/peevishness
JoeP833 wrote:
Y'all play nice, now.....
You are entirely right, Sir. No more pejorative "Bodge" references. We will henceforth refer to these items as "Functionally Challenged Southeast Asian Art."
Ossessionato
1970 Vespa Rally 180
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Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:36 pm quote
Re: Recent unpleasantness/peevishness
"Functionally Challenged Southeast Asian Art." that tends to want to kill its owner
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Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:36 pm quote
[/quote]"Functionally Challenged Southeast Asian Art."[/quote]

Lmfao hahahah that's perfect
Hooked
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Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:28 pm quote
Well, at least they don't lie about it....
http://santabarbara.craigslist.org/mcy/1917048953.html

1966 Vespa Vintage, Runs good , rebuilt engine , 2 stroke, green and white, leather seats.
This is the cleanest Vespa you will find. Market price is about $3,000 . It needs an clutch adjustment.

Me: Where was the engine rebuilt?

Them: The Vespa was imported from Indonesia.

Well, at least they're not trying to hide it.........

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
'80 P200E, '76 Primavera 125 ET3. '59 Vespa 150
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:38 pm quote
Here's a bodgy one in my neck of the woods.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-VESPA-IMMACULATE-CONDITION-/270625435260?pt=Scooters_Mopeds
Molto Verboso
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:57 pm quote
DAMNNNN!!!! 28 bids!!!!
Ossessionato
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:17 pm quote
DominicLNanni wrote:
DAMNNNN!!!! 28 bids!!!!
I had better get in on that action before it is too late..



Seriously, these sales descriptions always start with a story of how they got it from someone else who had it sitting around. There's a reason it was sitting around...
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My brother sold to me after this scooter sat for 10 months
MV Saint
Haud yer wheesh't if ye cannae be nice
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Posts: 3864
Location: Camden, Maine
Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:27 pm quote
Here is a typical one....in Maine, Oh dear! It NEEDS work

Incase it gets pulled.

Here is the quote:

"1967 150 Vespa. Totally factroy reconditioned 2008. Just not enought time for TLC or riding. Outstandiong condition. needs shifter work and carberator work. For the Vespa enthusiast this is an incredible deal. I love this scooter, would like to see a real VESPA person take her...two up seat, spare, black and red....in my heated garage / workshop, it is a beauty... "


http://maine.craigslist.org/mcy/1924641740.html

Cheers
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Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:04 pm quote
Italian bodge?
Has anyone see this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270620436291&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I contacted the seller and asked him where it was restored and pointed out the incorrect major bits (for the year). He told me it was done in Italy. Hmmm. It does have the yellow booties and a lot of incorrect stuff for a '62. What say the rest of youse?

I'm digging the hell out of the lower cowl trim, anyone know a source for these? Can't identify the tailight but methinks it's aftermarket as it looks very modern.

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Molto Verboso
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Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:33 pm quote
Re: Italian bodge?
crazycalabrese wrote:
Has anyone see this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270620436291&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I contacted the seller and asked him where it was restored and pointed out the incorrect major bits (for the year). He told me it was done in Italy. Hmmm. It does have the yellow booties and a lot of incorrect stuff for a '62. What say the rest of youse?

I'm digging the hell out of the lower cowl trim, anyone know a source for these? Can't identify the tailight but methinks it's aftermarket as it looks very modern.
tailight def = one of those junk Taiwan scooters..!! (use to have one )

http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&q=roketa+mc+17+tail+light&spell=1&oi=spell
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T5s
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:17 am quote
nail file
ya know .... these bodges are giving me ideas for me next px
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:31 am quote
Re: nail file
T5bitsa69 wrote:
ya know .... these bodges are giving me ideas for me next px
Care to share? As out of era that tailight is I do think it goes nicely with the rounded lines overall.
Ossessionato
2009 Vespa GTS 250, TBA
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:33 am quote
Re: nail file
crazycalabrese wrote:
T5bitsa69 wrote:
ya know .... these bodges are giving me ideas for me next px
Care to share? As out of era that tailight is I do think it goes nicely with the rounded lines overall.
Agreed, nice tailight. But will it work when Bitsa sprays it flat black?
Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:03 am quote
Re: Italian bodge?
crazycalabrese wrote:
Has anyone see this?
That's the same bodge I posted about on the previous page - found on craigslist. Another sign of a bodge seller: tenacity!
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:25 pm quote
My personal is the "Asian" style Vespa font on the spare tire cover. Not even close to the right font... glaringly obvious...
Ossessionato
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:31 pm quote
Re: nail file
T5bitsa69 wrote:
ya know .... these bodges are giving me ideas for me next px
Blinged out with half a ton of chrome and yellow boots?
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T5s
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:19 am quote
thick sliced
bare bars n that fat oval rear light ..... need to find a cheap scoot 1st
Ossessionato
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:31 am quote
Re: thick sliced
T5bitsa69 wrote:
bare bars n that fat oval rear light ..... need to find a cheap scoot 1st
You see these?
http://forums.stellaspeed.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=15151


Edit: I see now that yes you did......
Hooked
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:50 am quote
Bodge?
Found this...seems odd by whats put in the ad? Ye of infanite knowledge is this a bodge job

http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/mcy/1921730999.html

CL ad reads:


Received this vespa as a gift -- has never been driven other than around the block. There is a problem with the gears and will need some work done on it which is why I am selling it for so cheap. It has a 150cc engine which runs well and manual transmission. This vespa does not have a title but I do have all the import papers.

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Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:58 am quote
Re: Bodge?
That's a well done bodge. Not two tone, no star hubcaps, no yellow boots, no chrome wings.

But I'll start off with some: still has quite a regalia of chrome accessories. It has asian-repop seats. The obligatory spare with cover (matching the seats of course).

We can also smell some fishy shite with the ad: VERY low mileage, never driven more than around the block... YET it already has "a problem with the gears"? It's low mileage and hardly ridden because it's recently been "made," and the owner learned quickly what it was and didn't want to die riding it. It probably began having "gear problems" within that first block of riding because it was never put together properly with good parts.

No title and it was imported, but they conveniently don't say from where. So it was a gift from their grandpa in Italy, then

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Hooked
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:01 am quote
figured so...

I saw the "I have all the import papers" and thought bodge without even looking at the photos..
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:53 am quote
$7500 for a bodge!
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/mcy/1928674800.html

I bolded the bodge-tastic clues
Quote:
1969 Vintage Sidecar VESPA - $7500 (San Dimas)
Date: 2010-08-31, 3:28AM PDT
Reply to: sale-ecku6-1928674800@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

1969 Vintage Side-car VESPA

-- with powerful up-graded 5 PORT Motor -- This is an amazing restoration.

Only 344 miles.
Clear Title
I purchased this beautiful Vespa with sidecar about 18 months ago and have loved every minute of riding it. Great for Saturday cruising around town with the dog in the sidecar. I am selling it to upgrade to a vintage BMW sidecar motorcycle.

Only 344 Miles
Clear Title

PLEASE NOTE SPEED & POWER FANS This bike has been fitted with a very strong and powerful new 5 PORT Motor for lots of smooth, dependable, fast POWER !!! Most vintage scooters have the standard 150cc , but this scooter's motors is like a V8 compared to a four banger !!! You will be paying a little more but will be twice as happy... really can keep up with highway traffic and less vibrations as well.... you will love it !!! Other Vintage Vespas and Sidecar Scooters do not have this motor, so this would be a great choice. The power helps this bike go 55 mph with sidecar & passenger or 65 mph with sidecar detached !!! Also, please note that while moving the bike, I scraped the back rear seat in the side car and there is now a small tear. There is also a small scuff on the back right side cowl, but not too noticeable- but I always like to point out any small flaws!

.. this 1969 RETRO BEAUTY is 150 CC 5 PORT motor VBB model - Scooter 100% REBUILT - READY TO RIDE OR YOU TAKE THE REST OF THE WAY AND CUSTOMIZE OR ADD HIGH-PERFORMANCE PARTS, ETC., to your liking. Motor IS Electronic Ignition (no points) for better reliability and upgraded to 10 inch wheels for more stability at high speeds (these came with 8" wheels back in the day).

Amazing Side-car VBB 150 cc Model, expertly Rebuilt from the ground up... everything looks and runs amazing but keep in mind these awesome Italian Vespas have been running strong as every day transportation for over 40 years on the streets of Europe, India and other Asian countries and although super reliable some basic mechanical knowledge is highly recomended, such as changing the spark plug from time to time, adjusting brake/clutch cables, adding 2 % oil to the gas, etc... for those who take the time to care for these fun scooters, it should run and look great for another 40 years... !!! Similar to a classic car for example, you must be prepared to fiddle w/ these vehicles from time to time, but for fans of vintage, antique and classic stuff, it's half the fun... If that is YOU? then please read on and Happy Bidding.


This Vintage 1969 VBB 150 cc with upgraded twice as powerful 5 port motor, fits up to three riders, are awesome street-legal collectors items that are a blast to ride and should need nothing, as you can see from the photos. You can now customize or improve the scooter however you want to suit your personality !!! Bikes are masterfully restored by a Vespa expert -- and shows and drives like a dream... amazing for almost 40 years old.

New glossy paint and Chrome/stainless steel trim, parts are great condition original or or new remanufactured, with new tires --cool stock look exhaust pipe.. a real beauty and with upgraded 150 cc, it really jams around town as well... turns heads on every ride. As I have also advertised this beautiful scooter elsewhere, I reserve the right to end the auction at any time before auction ends on EBay .

MORE FREE STUFF INCLUDED: DUST COVER, 2 % MIXTURE OIL CUP AND 1 QT OF Synthetic 2-STROKE OIL, SPARK PLUG WRENCH AND ASSORTED NEW SPARK PLUG, CABLES, GAS CAN, 5 packets of OIL, REPAIR MANUAL AND Light BULBS..

Although this bike is about 40 years old, and shows and performs similar to a new vehicle... there is not any warranty or refunds, but I will be availalbe to answer any and all questions, to the best of my knowledge, re repair and upkeep of Vintage Vespas... if you ever need them: parts are readily available and these vintage Vespa motors are virtually bullet-proof! As the motor is new or newly rebuilt, for best results take it easy the first couple 100 miles or so for a gentle break-in, resulting years of riding pleasure with your hard to find retro Vespa. These bikes get about 70 mpg, run up to 60+ mph, and are a safe bet to go up in value someday !!!

I will deliver to you anywhere within 2 hours of Los Angeles.

Email to set up a time to come and check it out for yourself.
Ossessionato
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:15 am quote
Re: $7500 for a bodge!
That's bodgetastic! Also might as well put VBB in bold...seems like most them are.....
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1980 p200e
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:56 pm quote
Re: $7500 for a bodge!
Damn! He's trying to get a buck a word!
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63' VBB 177, 62' Lambretta LI 185
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:02 pm quote
Hey Nigel, news flash, not all VBB's are bodges mate... This one looks suspect though.
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:09 pm quote
carmonaville wrote:
Hey Nigel, news flash, not all VBB's are bodges mate... This one looks suspect though.
Sorry mate, couldn't help myself. I know not VBB's are bodges and it must be an endless annoyance to you as a VBB owner but lets face it some new guy comes on here and says he has an issue with a VBB he just bought the first thing that crosses most of our minds is "Aw shit, here we go again" and ask for pictures.

Personally I really like VBBs and would own one.


edit: and yeah, that one looks a little more than suspect.
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:36 pm quote
a bow to you my friend, yes it gets annoying... i'm sure i am not the only vbb owner out there with similar feelings. clearly the vbb was produced in larger numbers than any other vespa model, so its understandable that so many come up as bodges. for me i love the classic look of a proper vbb on 8's and probably will never sell mine. i tend to be loyal/stuborn to a fault... ps. i hear that in arizona they are pulling over vbb's and asking them for paper work...

and yeah, and you are also right, the above scoot definitely looks more than a little suspect for sure... BUT FOR SUCH A GREAT VALUE!!!!!
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:08 pm quote
Re VBBs being bodges...anyone notice how the majority of them seem to be 1965 and 1966? What's that all about?

I find it amusing how so many of them are equipped with handlebars and fender lights from models some 10 years older.
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