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GL, PK, PE200
Joined: 24 Apr 2012
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Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:30 pm quote
Jakeaaron13 wrote:
Should I be leery of this?
Sorry I know it's only one photo.
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You should be very leery of that and don't even think about it.
Ossessionato
1976 Super (x 2), 1974 Primavera (x 2), 2006 Fly 150
Joined: 26 Sep 2013
Posts: 4253
Location: So Cal
Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:47 am quote
^ Yes. Beware the imfamous screwed down floor mat.
Hooked
2017 White Vespa 300 GTS Super/2017 Vespa Sprint "S" 150 Platinum
Joined: 01 Feb 2017
Posts: 124
Location: Sarasota,Florida
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:39 am quote
This one is by me for sale . Is this a bodge ??The mileage makes me think yes .I can tell when its all chromed but some seem to look kind of original .Mileage on this one seems like there is something up obviously .

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76 Sprint Veloce
Joined: 13 Sep 2018
Posts: 20
Location: Los Angeles
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:12 am quote
Thanks guys.
I was admittedly temped by the price but something seemed "off".
The search continues.
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Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 246
Location: US
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:59 am quote
This scoot does not have standout redflag but has some concern as a mix-match scooter.

1) noticeable is the headset. Combination of Veloce light and early SPrint speedo size
2) 1966 sprint should have Vespa Sprint 150 or Sprint S on legshield instead of Vespa150
3) bottom frame where licence plate goes to should be square edge instead of round edge from VBB1 style. The cowls are from a Super. Column lock is a Super/SPrint type. Hopefully this is not a salvage of Sprint/Super/VBB1 bodies.

I would not buy this scoot at any price.

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3) bottom frame where licence plate goes to should be square edge instead of round edge from VBB1 style

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Hooked
2017 White Vespa 300 GTS Super/2017 Vespa Sprint "S" 150 Platinum
Joined: 01 Feb 2017
Posts: 124
Location: Sarasota,Florida
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:05 am quote
I knew there was something fishy about it . I am not ready to buy an oldie yet but im trying to learn what to look for .You guys are so good at this stuff !!! I am very nervous about buying too as some look good but obviously they are junk . I want an authentic one when its time and I don't care if the paint is pealing [ I actually like the patina look]along as its mechanically stable im ok .
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Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 246
Location: US
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:50 am quote
It's sad to see these shiny blinky one price so high in the range of 4k-5k. It looks like there are demands for it in order to keep the price going at that range.

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Once a while, you see a legit good scoot going at that high price and still get let attention than the shiny one.

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Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 246
Location: US
Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:00 am quote
at least, the seller is not asking an outrageous amount for the faded pink of what looks like a VBB frame, with 10", battery powered and VBC engine.

Not too sure how a VBB frame be a 1968 scoot.

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Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 246
Location: US
Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:16 am quote
Something must be really wrong with these SEA scoot when they are pricing in ~2k range. From what I can see, the fork is bent as the front wheel is not straight.

So the unspoken pattern of pricing has been like this on those scoots.

$4-6k - Potentially has something wrong.
$3-4k - Owner discovered something not right.
$2-3k - Owner discovered some thing is really wrong.
$1-2k - Ran when parked/put in storage last year.
<#1k - Busted, owner attempted to restore and scoot is falling apart.

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Hooked
62 VBB 64 GL Rally 200s 74s-76-77 P200s 79-82
Joined: 21 Jul 2013
Posts: 127
Location: Tucson
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:21 pm quote
Bodge Pricing Schedule is Beautiful!!!!
Molto Verboso
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1996 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 1183
Location: Veria, Greece
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:36 am quote
One in the forum's ads...

Should it be reported??

Restored Italian Vespa 1966
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Rally 200, 1964 VNB
Joined: 24 Aug 2018
Posts: 15
Location: Washington
Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:28 pm quote
So should I be leery of accessorizing my scoot? I like the look of cowl protectors and racks. Was also going to add a glove box. I know what I would like her to look like but wouldn't want her sneered at either.
Hooked
2017 White Vespa 300 GTS Super/2017 Vespa Sprint "S" 150 Platinum
Joined: 01 Feb 2017
Posts: 124
Location: Sarasota,Florida
Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:48 am quote
There is a guy posting this up on the AF1 Aprilia site . I am not looking at it but I want people on the site to understand that this is a bodge


Selling my restored Italian vespa 1966 150cc, excellent condition, no accident, starts with one kick, runs perfect, no scratches, original paint, leather seats, new bulbs. Please if interested contact for more pictures and video.

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Molto Verboso
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1996 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 1183
Location: Veria, Greece
Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:01 am quote
This was the ad I mentioned 2 posts up and was taken down from the admins...
Hooked
2017 White Vespa 300 GTS Super/2017 Vespa Sprint "S" 150 Platinum
Joined: 01 Feb 2017
Posts: 124
Location: Sarasota,Florida
Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:15 am quote
SaFiS wrote:
This was the ad I mentioned 2 posts up and was taken down from the admins...
Oh ok . Thanks . I thought I remembered seeing it
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Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 246
Location: US
Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:36 pm quote
1k a piece.

an example of run when parked since and required major tune up to run. Usually, this means engine is busted.

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Hooked
67 Prima, 77 P200E, 59 Allstate, 64 Li150
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Molto Verboso
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1996 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 1183
Location: Veria, Greece
Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:59 pm quote
Probably legit. Two tone doesn’t always mean bodge. Price is questionable though...
Hooked
2017 White Vespa 300 GTS Super/2017 Vespa Sprint "S" 150 Platinum
Joined: 01 Feb 2017
Posts: 124
Location: Sarasota,Florida
Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:44 am quote
saw this on my local craigslist,States it was restored by Planet Vespa


1961 VBB Vespa with MP6 styling (from 1945) in Aviator Grey with black upholstery. I just recently purchased this beautiful Vespa. Planet Vespa, is the company that fully restored the scooter. It was a seven week process to complete the full restoration, and an additional 6 weeks to have the scooter shipped to FL. I have taken care of all the registration required to title scooter. I've rode it less than a tank of gas. This scooter is perfect in every way and is like brand new. I'm starting a family and need the money. I have over $5000 invested in the scooter, so my loss your gain.

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TBD
Joined: 01 Oct 2018
Posts: 5
Location: San Francisco
Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:25 pm quote
Help in Spotting a Bodge
Got a line on this bike, but I'm suspecting it may be a bodge. Take a look and let me know! Thank you.

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Hooked
1964 GS160, 1974 Rally 200, 1966 90ss
Joined: 08 Sep 2011
Posts: 168

Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:39 pm quote
Re: Help in Spotting a Bodge
SurferSF wrote:
Got a line on this bike, but I'm suspecting it may be a bodge. Take a look and let me know! Thank you.
What's holding it upright? Magic?
Hooked
Joined: 13 Dec 2014
Posts: 198
Location: Ohio USA
Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:28 pm quote
Held up by flying carpet.

Bodge.
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TBD
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Location: San Francisco
Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:41 pm quote


I almost spit on my monitor with the comment of how it's held up! There's a single kickstand on the other side. The chrome/trim looks questionable, as do the turn signals. I have no idea what the motor looks like (nor will I get a chance to figure it out) before purchasing. Oh, and there's no title (bill of sale only). Sounds like more trouble then it may be worth?

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Hooked
Joined: 13 Dec 2014
Posts: 198
Location: Ohio USA
Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:44 pm quote
SurferSF wrote:
Sounds like more trouble then it may be worth?
Do you think?

Look at all the other choices in the background. I'm sure they are also good.
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Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 246
Location: US
Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:11 pm quote
I wouldnt go for this bike as there are a few thing that are not right. Side stand, 10" wheel, typical levers from SEA, incorrect back seat. Accessories may be legit vigano or Ulma but may not.
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TBD
Joined: 01 Oct 2018
Posts: 5
Location: San Francisco
Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:22 am quote
Worth $1400? Seems to me like it’s too questionable and the added hassle of no title makes it a money pit. Agree?
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1979 Vespa P200E, 1965 Allstate
Joined: 19 Jan 2016
Posts: 48
Location: Claremont, CA
Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:32 am quote
Don't even think about buying it.
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Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 246
Location: US
Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:28 pm quote
SurferSF wrote:
Worth $1400? Seems to me like it’s too questionable and the added hassle of no title makes it a money pit. Agree?
I am not sure how many scoot you have owned but after a few purchases, I learned to keep the money and wait for a decent scoot to come. It's fine to buy the questionable scoot if you have time and money to spare but that scoot could easily turning into an eye-sore thing in the garage.
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TBD
Joined: 01 Oct 2018
Posts: 5
Location: San Francisco
Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:52 pm quote
Thanks for the responses everyone! Really helpful.
Hooked
1986 T5,1979 P200e
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 378
Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:23 am quote
I’m thinking it’s a bodge

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Hooked
1986 T5,1979 P200e
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Posts: 378
Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:09 pm quote
Another one
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mcy/6714091845.html

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TBD
Joined: 01 Oct 2018
Posts: 5
Location: San Francisco
Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:29 am quote
Here’s the response from the guy trying to sell a bodge: “Could very well be "coming" from Asia. There are so many people riding scooters in Asia, some vespa were taken from there. Theyre called like Hodge podge or something. Most Chinese scoots now are gy6 style scoots, twist and go trans. Variator centrifigiel clutch etc blah blah. I've had many many scoots. This bike is being sold as is, curb side warranty, that's it. Its a vespa not a alpha Romeo! I'm not really into these as a big investment.
This bike isn't really even for sale! This may not be the best bike for you. That's all I know about the scoot in whole. Its the same thing I've said in over 35 emails.”
Hooked
Joined: 13 Dec 2014
Posts: 198
Location: Ohio USA
Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:19 pm quote
http://modernvespa.com/forum/post2277639#2277639

Not sure, these might be legit 4 speed 1961 150 models. Figured the experts might know more...
Hooked
Joined: 13 Dec 2014
Posts: 198
Location: Ohio USA
Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:31 pm quote
SurferSF wrote:
Here’s the response from the guy trying to sell a bodge: “Could very well be "coming" from Asia. There are so many people riding scooters in Asia, some vespa were taken from there. Theyre called like Hodge podge or something. Most Chinese scoots now are gy6 style scoots, twist and go trans. Variator centrifigiel clutch etc blah blah. I've had many many scoots. This bike is being sold as is, curb side warranty, that's it. Its a vespa not a alpha Romeo! I'm not really into these as a big investment.
This bike isn't really even for sale! This may not be the best bike for you. That's all I know about the scoot in whole. Its the same thing I've said in over 35 emails.”
Because chucking out "alpha Romeo" exudes knowledge of all things eyetowelian.
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Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 246
Location: US
Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:01 pm quote
Weeeee, a whole lot of filler bondo everywhere. It looks like seller has salvaged all he could and gave up on the frame.

It's funny that it was chained to the poll. I doubt anyone will steal this frame even if you pay them to steal.

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Addicted
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 977
Location: Siam
Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:39 am quote
Oh man.😞 That is sad.
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Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 246
Location: US
Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:28 am quote
Naive buyer then seller. Hopefully no one buy them at this kind of price.

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Original Vespa....

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Not sure what part is original on this vespa either.

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Hooked
1978 MotoVespa 160GT, 2009 LML Star 150 2T (Stella), 1961 Lambretta S2, 1962 Lambretta S3, 1964 Lambretta J100
Joined: 02 May 2009
Posts: 259
Location: Belgium
Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:33 am quote
A whole FB page full of them, and only $6000 :
https://www.facebook.com/thevintagehouseeupen/posts/1970734023230515?comment_id=1972876086349642&reply_comment_id=1973158112988106&notif_id=1539756975886150&notif_t=feed_comment_reply

It's a bit of a giveaway when their own website suggests that you also visit their sister businesses importing teak furniture and Balinese coffee
http://www.thevintagehouse.net/

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Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 246
Location: US
Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:59 pm quote
norman wrote:
A whole FB page full of them, and only $6000 :
https://www.facebook.com/thevintagehouseeupen/posts/1970734023230515?comment_id=1972876086349642&reply_comment_id=1973158112988106&notif_id=1539756975886150&notif_t=feed_comment_reply

It's a bit of a giveaway when their own website suggests that you also visit their sister businesses importing teak furniture and Balinese coffee
http://www.thevintagehouse.net/
These guys get their Vespa from Indonesia & Pakistan.
Molto Verboso
BV200, P200E (2),V90 and now a Big Ruckus
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Location: Mims, Florida USA
Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:32 pm quote
If it has the word “Italian” in the description, it’s probably a bodge
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