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Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:37 pm quote
Tradspa wrote:
NotAutomatic wrote:
Tradspa wrote:
ph0ngvu wrote:
Claude wrote:
SaFiS wrote:
That one is a bit tough for the untrained eye. They did a great job, debodging it...
If it wasn't for the obvious tell tale sign on a bodge, I'd have to find a real expert
to look it over. It's actually a nice bike from afar.
Totally, a newbie wouldn't be able to tell bodge or not. Redo a VBB to a Sprint was popular in Nam.
That one most likely originally came from the now defunct website www.YourVespa.com ...and the still operational http://yourvespa.tumblr.com/ a bodge importer in NY. they work with someone in Nam to make them a certain way trying to look as not bodge as possible. I owned the Amaranto colored 69 Sprint on that page and the electrical system, gearbox and clutch were garbage. It was a nightmare. I got a $750 refund from them right off the bat then put that money right back into it THEN took a $1000 loss on it when I sold it but made that back on Wall St. That was my Bodge lesson. I have a good US restored VBB now but the garbage LML engine I bought for it was yet another nightmare.

My 2 years worth of classic vespa nightmares= if you want a classic Vespa, first learn about bodges. Then learn about engines. Anything Vietnam+India= garbage.

Then, get at least $7500 ready and get a good one. Classic anything doesn't come cheap, you get what you pay for. My 2 cents.
"...but made that back on Wall St."

Ah, see that was my mistake. I didn't make a bunch of money on Wall St.
Neither did I, I made my $1000 back....on legal Cannabis stock....or am I stupid for that too?
Why do you keep insisting over and over again that I called you "stupid"?
It's pathological.
Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:40 pm
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Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:18 pm quote
Straight from Nam to New York to scoot.net classifieds and shes losing about $2000 on it but might be saving her own life.

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Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:41 pm quote
same ol story

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Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:03 am quote
Tradspa wrote:
ph0ngvu wrote:
Claude wrote:
SaFiS wrote:
That one is a bit tough for the untrained eye. They did a great job, debodging it...
If it wasn't for the obvious tell tale sign on a bodge, I'd have to find a real expert
to look it over. It's actually a nice bike from afar.
Totally, a newbie wouldn't be able to tell bodge or not. Redo a VBB to a Sprint was popular in Nam.
That one most likely originally came from the now defunct website www.YourVespa.com ...and the still operational http://yourvespa.tumblr.com/ a bodge importer in NY. they work with someone in Nam to make them a certain way trying to look as not bodge as possible. I owned the Amaranto colored 69 Sprint on that page and the electrical system, gearbox and clutch were garbage. It was a nightmare. I got a $750 refund from them right off the bat then put that money right back into it THEN took a $1000 loss on it when I sold it but made that back on Wall St. That was my Bodge lesson. I have a good US restored VBB now but the garbage LML engine I bought for it was yet another nightmare.

My 2 years worth of classic vespa nightmares= if you want a classic Vespa, first learn about bodges. Then learn about engines. Anything Vietnam+India= garbage.

Then, get at least $7500 ready and get a good one. Classic anything doesn't come cheap, you get what you pay for. My 2 cents.
Look at how many vespa came through YourVespa.com folk? No wonder, bodge have flooded CL
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:37 pm quote
Seller is getting smarter and listed scooter as Like New instead of Brand New. I got eBay to remove a few of his previous listing as they were listed brand new.

On the side note. These bodges are bellow 3k and shipping included from HoChiMinh city to the US ports. Price is to cheap and abnormal for a bodge from SEA.
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Everything is stripped down to bare metal. Everything has also been hand forged back to there original shape. After that we take everything in for professional paint work.
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:28 pm quote
ph0ngvu wrote:
On the side note. These bodges are bellow 3k and shipping included from HoChiMinh city to the US ports.
Buyers can expect to spend another $1000 importing it and having it shipped from the port to their house, if they do all the importing work themselves. Paying an import broker will cost even more. Importing any vehicle to the US is not free.
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Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:15 pm quote
All sales are final!

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Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:18 pm quote
Another in SoCal.

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Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:33 pm quote
That one’s already falling apart...
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:01 am quote
Hey Guys how does this one look ?? Is it legit ??

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Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:05 am quote
Looks legit to me...
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:17 am quote
Looks legit-ish. Hard to tell for sure from just the one photo.

Definitely a terrible re-spray for the orange, though.
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:32 am quote
chandlerman wrote:
Looks legit-ish. Hard to tell for sure from just the one photo.

Definitely a terrible re-spray for the orange, though.
Heres a few more .

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Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:33 am quote
another

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Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:38 am quote
another pic

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Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:38 am quote
1 more

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Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:39 am quote
I was considering this one .What would something like this be worth ??
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:01 am quote
scooter jones wrote:
I was considering this one .What would something like this be worth ??
Probably less than the owner is going to ask.

Looks like a P-style kickstart lever, so they've swapped the motor to something else. Do you know what? and what improvements might have been made to it?
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:17 am quote
chandlerman wrote:
scooter jones wrote:
I was considering this one .What would something like this be worth ??
Probably less than the owner is going to ask.

Looks like a P-style kickstart lever, so they've swapped the motor to something else. Do you know what? and what improvements might have been made to it?
His description ....

1971 Sprint Veloce Vespa w/upgraded PX 200 E engine (early 1980's)



In good shape. Has some physical damage to body. Previous owner installed the higher cc PX 200 E engine and I had the wiring redone when I first got it.




Replaced tires and did total tear down/tune up when I last drove it (~4 years ago); garaged since then. Use to commute to work on it when my commute was just a few miles.




Confident with some new gas, will run the same.
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:43 am quote
A Sprint with a P200 engine is a nice find

Definitely worth jumping on if the price is right.
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:49 am quote
It’s not an obvious bodge, but it’s had a lot of work done to it.

Probably has engine issues. When ads say “Confident with some new gas, will run ...” it usually means “I tried to get it started but couldn’t.” If it was just a matter of adding new gas you’d think the seller would’ve put some in.

How much?
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:14 am quote
SoCalGuy wrote:
It’s not an obvious bodge, but it’s had a lot of work done to it.

Probably has engine issues. When ads say “Confident with some new gas, will run ...” it usually means “I tried to get it started but couldn’t.” If it was just a matter of adding new gas you’d think the seller would’ve put some in.

How much?
Yea my thoughts . Sort of like people who say when they are selling an electrical item that plugs into a wall outlet"I never plugged it in so I don't know if it works " WTF??

price is 1500.00 and of course it would need shipped .So probably another 500.00 bucks across the country
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:37 am quote
I don't know how common scoots are in your area, but here that's a decent price. In the bay area, probably not so much. So I'd say $2k is on the fence IMO.
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:41 am quote
scooter jones wrote:
SoCalGuy wrote:
It’s not an obvious bodge, but it’s had a lot of work done to it.

Probably has engine issues. When ads say “Confident with some new gas, will run ...” it usually means “I tried to get it started but couldn’t.” If it was just a matter of adding new gas you’d think the seller would’ve put some in.

How much?
Yea my thoughts . Sort of like people who say when they are selling an electrical item that plugs into a wall outlet"I never plugged it in so I don't know if it works " WTF??

price is 1500.00 and of course it would need shipped .So probably another 500.00 bucks across the country
Probably worth the price if you can get someone to check it out, if they know what to look for. From the description maybe a Euro Sprint with larger headlight and PXE200 Arcobaleno motor????

The frame does not seem molested and if you can't get anyone to look at it, ask for a picture of the frame numbers and motor numbers. See if scooterhelp has it on file. Not a for sure thing but a lookup won't hurt.
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:55 am quote
Ask the seller for some pics of what it looked like before the “total tear down“.
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:39 am quote
And get some pics of the motor, inside the glove box so you can see the state of electrical, too. Those will also be good hints as to the overall quality of workmanship, but ultimately, nothing will beat having someone who knows about these bikes take a look at it for you.

Plus, if it was really running when put away four years ago, it'll run again with some gas and maybe some starting fluid. My sprint started pretty much right up (albeit with a LOT of smoke and gas leaking everywhere) after sitting for ten years in the PO's garage, no lay up, just not ridden. I put a seat back on it and took it around the block after that video, too.

I think the real question here is how much work you're wanting to sign up for.
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:50 pm quote
scooter jones wrote:
Hey Guys how does this one look ?? Is it legit ??
Are you asking if it's legitimately NOT from SEA (southeast asia) ?

It doesn't look like a SEA bodge to me.
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Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:25 am quote
Well someone beat me to it so I found this one also .Its a color i do not like but that is not a problem but am told it runs great and everything works very good .With title . Small frame 90 . Is it legit .Anyone see anything i should be concerned with ?? What is the top speed on a 90cc ? I need something to go 45 MPH in my town
Thanks !!

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Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:26 am quote
one more

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Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:08 pm quote
that 90 mini looks legit to me. Nam one doesn't come with original worn out yellow grip.
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Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:28 pm quote
Top speed around 40 mph.
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Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:50 am quote
not a bodge!
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Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:37 am quote
oopsclunkthud wrote:
it's farmer bodge
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Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:57 am quote
oopsclunkthud wrote:
not a bodge!
Agreed. It was just visited by the Bad Taste Fairy.[/list]
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Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:00 pm quote
chandlerman wrote:
oopsclunkthud wrote:
not a bodge!
Agreed. It was just visited by the Bad Taste Fairy.[/list]
The flash on the cowls may not be to everyone's liking, but they are authentic and highly sought after by those that do like them.
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Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:43 pm quote
oopsclunkthud wrote:
Agreed, but it's not a $3375 WideBody as described either. Looks like a VBB or VNB to me.
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Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:54 pm quote
It's from Nam but is very safe to ride since the PRO motocycle mechanic has inspected it.

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Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:34 am quote
Only $5300.

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