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Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 50s x3 78 P200 84 Cosa 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special + projects
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Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:04 pm quote
LA always has lots to offer this thread


what a beauty and only $3600 here https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/d/torrance-vintage-vbb-1961-vespa-scooter/6902520518.html
(can they not get the brake cable length right ?)
Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 50s x3 78 P200 84 Cosa 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special + projects
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Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:43 am quote
unsure about this one

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/mcy/d/los-angeles-vespa-project-parts/6903767839.html

Debodged bodge on tens or legit conversion? At $1300 could be worth looking at to find out. Badge says Vespa 150, no other info.

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Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 390
Location: US
Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:01 pm quote
Re: unsure about this one
V oodoo wrote:

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/mcy/d/los-angeles-vespa-project-parts/6903767839.html

Debodged bodge on tens or legit conversion? At $1300 could be worth looking at to find out. Badge says Vespa 150, no other info.

Typical It ran when i got it but not anymore.

just a quick glance, I'm pretty sure previous owner has tried to debodge this thing. I circled the typical stuff from SEA restored scoots.

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Molto Verboso
08 GTS 250, 79 P200E, 62 Allstate
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Location: Florence, OR
Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:47 pm quote
I was wondering the same thing - besides the 10". Thanks Ph0ngvu. Since I've now got an Allstate, the keyed cowl should also have a latch. The Allstate only has the latch.
Hooked
1964 GS160, 1966 90ss
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Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:11 pm quote
I think you may be right.

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Molto Verboso
1980 P200E project, 2005 Stella Mal 177 MKIII in pieces
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 1229
Location: Staten Island, NY
Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:43 am quote
https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/mcy/d/new-york-city-piaggio-vespa-cc-scooter/6923788905.html

Only $9,500! Will not last is right.. the only truth in this ad.

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Molto Verboso
2018 GTS300 Super Sport - Donatello Vespace
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Addicted
GL, PK, PE200, Rustbadge
Joined: 24 Apr 2012
Posts: 718
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:37 am quote
Re: Is this red?
It looks real but the pictures are small. A clearer picture of the mudguard and cowls needed to confirm its a GL. The price is higher then normal for a GL.
Molto Verboso
2018 GTS300 Super Sport - Donatello Vespace
Joined: 22 Dec 2012
Posts: 1305
Location: Toronto, Ontario Canada
Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:37 am quote
Re: Is this red?
rowdyc wrote:
It looks real but the pictures are small. A clearer picture of the mudguard and cowls needed to confirm its a GL. The price is higher then normal for a GL.
Looks in great shape though. Im afraid to ask more deets for fear I will buy it.
Hooked
Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 390
Location: US
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:32 am quote
I smell some rats.... j/k. This is what I never understand. If you posted an item for sale, describe them with details and clear pictures of it. Why bother posting when you can't even make an effort to get good pictures?

I stay away from these type of ads as much as I can.
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LX150
Joined: 28 Mar 2014
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Location: NY
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:26 am quote
Hi everyone. Iíve been following this site again after a long hiatus. Always so helpful. So what do you think of this one? Legit or stay away? Supposedly 1966

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Ossessionato
1976 Super (x 2), 1974 Primavera (x 2), 2006 Fly 150
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Location: So Cal
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:32 am quote
Stay away
Molto Verboso
08 GTS 250, 79 P200E, 62 Allstate
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Location: Florence, OR
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:10 am quote
Help!
Interesting story. A few months back my wife's friend says "Hey, my husband has a Vespa - come check it out!" So I do. My first thought was SEA, so I said, "It looks pretty", which it does. And I snapped some pics. The garage was crowded so this was as good as I could get.

Fast forward to yesterday - I get a call. A nice guy I met at the post office wants to come by and show me a beautiful 65 Super he's looking at buying and would like me to get it running for him or at least take a look. I started asking questions and turns out it's the same bike.

I don't know enough of the different models to know SEA bodge, but I've got a pretty good "sense", if you will. What do I know though...

So what do you all this of this one? Specifics on what's off would be appreciated.

I've noticed "rubber gasket on glovebox (should it have a glovebox?), Chrome collar on fork tube, fat trim around legshield, two tone paint, funky run in sticker.

Before I talk with him again I'd like to know what I can. I don't have the bandwidth right now to even look at it in person. I'm glad I snapped a couple of pics!

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Hooked
1978 MotoVespa 160GT, 2009 LML Star 150 2T (Stella), 1961 Lambretta S2, 1962 Lambretta S3, 1964 Lambretta J100
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Posts: 279
Location: Belgium
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:25 am quote
Going by the Danmotors running-in sticker, I'd say that you're best steering well clear of it
Ossessionato
05 Stella, '62 VBB, 76 Sprint V, 63 GL
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 2268
Location: Chicago. Well, Evanston, but that's almost Chicago
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:47 am quote
Yeah, the only reason to even touch a bike like that is to document what Ultimate Bodge looks like up close.

I sort've expect a true bodge looks about like this when you touch it with a tool...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8hX2Ex58os
Enthusiast
1979 Vespa P200E, 1965 Allstate
Joined: 19 Jan 2016
Posts: 64
Location: Claremont, CA
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:37 am quote
I can't believe that 2 people are actually bidding on this.

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Molto Verboso
1980 P200E project, 2005 Stella Mal 177 MKIII in pieces
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 1229
Location: Staten Island, NY
Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:37 pm quote
NYSea wrote:
Hi everyone. Iíve been following this site again after a long hiatus. Always so helpful. So what do you think of this one? Legit or stay away? Supposedly 1966
Looks to be the same exact one I posted a few posts above you. They just removed the lights for some reason. still the same bodge with or without them.
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LX150
Joined: 28 Mar 2014
Posts: 6
Location: NY
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:40 pm quote
swiss1939 wrote:
NYSea wrote:
Hi everyone. Iíve been following this site again after a long hiatus. Always so helpful. So what do you think of this one? Legit or stay away? Supposedly 1966
Looks to be the same exact one I posted a few posts above you. They just removed the lights for some reason. still the same bodge with or without them.
Not the same one as they want a fraction of that price, but thanks for the warning. Iíll pass on it
Molto Verboso
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 1174
Location: Siam
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:54 pm quote
swiss1939 wrote:
https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/mcy/d/new-york-city-piaggio-vespa-cc-scooter/6923788905.html

Only $9,500! Will not last is right.. the only truth in this ad.
The funniest thing about this photo is that it's still totally drivable with that lock the way it is used. 😆
Molto Verboso
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 1174
Location: Siam
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:59 pm quote
memtnbike wrote:
I can't believe that 2 people are actually bidding on this.
More than likely, the two bidders know the eBay account holder. They put bids in to make it look like there is interest. If no one else (legitimate bidders) bids on it, those two withdraw their bids. Then they all start over again looking for another sucker.
Hooked
1979 P200E
Joined: 01 Jan 2018
Posts: 109
Location: Houston
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:43 pm quote
Re: Help!
qascooter wrote:
funky run in sticker.
Reading this I kinda thought huh? Then I saw the sticker. That looks super weird and out of place. I'm far from any expert here but man I'd stay away from that.
Hooked
Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 390
Location: US
Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:20 am quote
Re: Help!
qascooter wrote:
Interesting story. A few months back my wife's friend says "Hey, my husband has a Vespa - come check it out!" So I do. My first thought was SEA, so I said, "It looks pretty", which it does. And I snapped some pics. The garage was crowded so this was as good as I could get.

Fast forward to yesterday - I get a call. A nice guy I met at the post office wants to come by and show me a beautiful 65 Super he's looking at buying and would like me to get it running for him or at least take a look. I started asking questions and turns out it's the same bike.

I don't know enough of the different models to know SEA bodge, but I've got a pretty good "sense", if you will. What do I know though...

So what do you all this of this one? Specifics on what's off would be appreciated.

I've noticed "rubber gasket on glovebox (should it have a glovebox?), Chrome collar on fork tube, fat trim around legshield, two tone paint, funky run in sticker.

Before I talk with him again I'd like to know what I can. I don't have the bandwidth right now to even look at it in person. I'm glad I snapped a couple of pics!
beside all your finding, here are what ive noticed.
1) bent 10" conversion. Front wheel is a little too far forward.
2) bunch shiny chrome accessories bolt into the frame. Most of the original accessories are being mounted on the edge or bolt through factory existing holes.
3) The tail end where license plate go has been cut off and welded on new sheet metal. Typically, you should see the seam running from the top through the middle of the light and til the end of license plate area on all vintage Vespa. Many SEA bikes have this area rotten.
4) 2 tones color. LOL

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seam is missing.

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Vespa
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Posts: 390
Location: US
Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:08 pm quote
Seller proudly said it's not cheap restoration from Vietnam. you better believe it.

he owned for 8 years and enjoyed it a lot. But only put ~100km or ~60 miles on the clock = ~7 miles a year. That was not a lot of enjoyment. What a total liar he is.

for the love of god. 11bids at $2325 and 5hrs to go.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-vespa-VLB-Sprint-150-scooter/254293880492

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Hopefully no one notice a missing screw. There still are 5 others. Don't worry.

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holly smoke, bondo is cracking.

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wiring signal light outside? weird.

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what's a mumbo jumbo in there

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restamp?

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110km speedo

Hooked
PX 150
Joined: 06 Aug 2007
Posts: 328
Location: Dublin, Ohio
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:05 pm quote
I honestly cannot help feeling sorry for the people who end up buying these things. Like all of us at some point, they are folks interested in discovering scooter ownership and probably are thrilled to find a scooter in such nice shape. At some point they are likely to figure out what they have bought, and that is pretty sad. Of course, some might then turn around and try to unload them by doing to a new buyer what someone did to them, and that also just means more victims.
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P125x (P200 Motor)
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 167
Location: Alexandria, VA
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:20 pm quote
apex wrote:
I honestly cannot help feeling sorry for the people who end up buying these things. Like all of us at some point, they are folks interested in discovering scooter ownership and probably are thrilled to find a scooter in such nice shape. At some point they are likely to figure out what they have bought, and that is pretty sad. Of course, some might then turn around and try to unload them by doing to a new buyer what someone did to them, and that also just means more victims.
It could have easily been me. Until I found mine I never looked at this site, or even knew about knock-offs and VBs.
Molto Verboso
1980 P200E project, 2005 Stella Mal 177 MKIII in pieces
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 1229
Location: Staten Island, NY
Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:12 pm quote
why would you even paint a flywheel? that looks like a grade school painting project!
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P125x (P200 Motor)
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 167
Location: Alexandria, VA
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:08 pm quote
swiss1939 wrote:
why would you even paint a flywheel? that looks like a grade school painting project!
I'm glad you said that, I had planned on painting mine when I do my rebuild.

Molto Verboso
1980 P200E project, 2005 Stella Mal 177 MKIII in pieces
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 1229
Location: Staten Island, NY
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:24 pm quote
JimVonBaden wrote:
swiss1939 wrote:
why would you even paint a flywheel? that looks like a grade school painting project!
I'm glad you said that, I had planned on painting mine when I do my rebuild.

Sorry! Just clean it up or sandblast it. It looks so much better as just metal... maybe not rusty metal, but polished metal!

Mine was grimey brown/yellow until I took it off to adjust timing. I thought it was permanently grimey until I decided to spray it with purple power. That thing cleaned up real nice and shiney now!

My main problem is not so much painting the flywheel itself, but painting over the studs and center hub. it looks like a bodge to paint over studs and bolts. You could convince me otherwise if you painted it but masked off the center hub and studs.. Basically, make it look professional. Not like this one. Which I can see you have done other paint jobs very professionally on your own from some other projects you've posted.
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P125x (P200 Motor)
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Posts: 167
Location: Alexandria, VA
Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:01 pm quote
swiss1939 wrote:
JimVonBaden wrote:
swiss1939 wrote:
why would you even paint a flywheel? that looks like a grade school painting project!
I'm glad you said that, I had planned on painting mine when I do my rebuild.

Sorry! Just clean it up or sandblast it. It looks so much better as just metal... maybe not rusty metal, but polished metal!

Mine was grimey brown/yellow until I took it off to adjust timing. I thought it was permanently grimey until I decided to spray it with purple power. That thing cleaned up real nice and shiney now!

My main problem is not so much painting the flywheel itself, but painting over the studs and center hub. it looks like a bodge to paint over studs and bolts. You could convince me otherwise if you painted it but masked off the center hub and studs.. Basically, make it look professional. Not like this one. Which I can see you have done other paint jobs very professionally on your own from some other projects you've posted.
I wasn't really serious! I would not paint over the hardware, and wouldn't paint if it cleaned up nicely.
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1976 Super (x 2), 1974 Primavera (x 2), 2006 Fly 150
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Location: So Cal
Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:46 pm quote
Painted fly wheel can look good if done right

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58 VB1T, 81 100 Sport
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Location: Long Beach, CA
Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:36 am quote
SoCalGuy wrote:
Painted fly wheel can look good if done right

I've always liked a nice colorful flywheel, if done right. That red one looks done right.

I'm digging that scissor jack setup you've got there!! Ideas sparking
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1979 P200E
Joined: 01 Jan 2018
Posts: 109
Location: Houston
Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:45 am quote
That paint job looks correct and well done, but the red/blue combo is a little to harsh for my taste. Maybe if the frame was black.
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Vespa
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Posts: 390
Location: US
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:00 pm quote
It's either don't do it or do it right. I dont understand would do a whack job like hand painted with a crappy brush. I would rather sand blast or just buff it out as it already look much nicer than that black flywheel.
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Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 390
Location: US
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:07 pm quote
sold for 3000. looks like a war between 2-3 bidders from the start. Could be shill bidding.

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Molto Verboso
1980 P200E project, 2005 Stella Mal 177 MKIII in pieces
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 1229
Location: Staten Island, NY
Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:35 pm quote
ph0ngvu wrote:
sold for 3000. looks like a war between 2-3 bidders from the start. Could be shill bidding.
Yeah.. buyer with zero rating. seller with username kissmygassooters. Not at all fake bidding to drive up price. That thing is not leaving his garage.
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Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 390
Location: US
Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:41 am quote
Nothing to say beside of typical bodge beside the bondo seems to crack and no longer sticking

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
'07 LX150 (Sold), '17 GTS300, '16 BV350, '15 EN650, '09 FXDF
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Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:02 pm quote
Gentlemen (and women, if the case may be),

I submit this candidate for your consideration.

https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/mcy/d/san-antonio-1968-vespa-sprint-150/6944497548.html
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Vespa
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Location: US
Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:55 am quote
Jet Peddler wrote:
Gentlemen (and women, if the case may be),

I submit this candidate for your consideration.

https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/mcy/d/san-antonio-1968-vespa-sprint-150/6944497548.html
Quote:
I have this beautiful 1968 Vespa Sprint 150 for sale. This scooter has undergone a complete restoration - details below.

I do not have a lot of history on it since I've only spoken with the person I bought it from. He purchased it from the individual who did almost all of the restoration.

To my knowledge, just about everything on the scooter is either original, or appears to be replaced with original parts. The body is in near excellent condition, with no dents. The paint is good and glossy, but has some chips and a large scuff on the motor cowl. The restoration color appears correct (only two colors were available when new, and this color gray is one of them) The chrome crash bars are almost pristine, with no pitting or rust. The speedometer is bright and clear. The grips look new and the brake and clutch handles are correct. The headlight and horn also appear original.

All of the suspension components and brake system are in good, working condition. The motor starts right up from a cold start, idles well, and drives great. The 4-speed manual transmission shifts without a problem.

Tires are not original (obviously) but are in great condition. The white-walls really give it a nice, classic look.

All rubber has been replaced and is in very good condition. The rubber surrounding the two cowls have discolored a bit, but they are still very flexible.

The seats appear to be original and were re-covered by the previous owner. Additionally, he installed the fold-down cargo rack. Most of the Piaggio emblems are in place (only a couple are missing but can be easily found online).

The scooter needs one new rubber kickstand peg and paint touch-up. The horn does not work.

I have keys for the ignition, steering wheel lock, gas cap, and both glove compartments.

The mileage shown on the odometer (in kilometers) was reported to me as original. I cannot vouch for that one way or the other since the scooter is in good enough condition to warrant such low mileage. Nevertheless, I have no further information to go on.

I have a clean blue title in my name.

I'll entertain good cash offers and trades. I'll add cash if even if your trade is considerably more valuable.

Thanks, Rafael.
tail story of a bodge scoot. "I got from Mr B that bought from someone named Mr B that did the restoration". SO DONT blame me if you found out it is a BODGE.

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 50s x3 78 P200 84 Cosa 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special + projects
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Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:07 pm quote
So hard to decide. Which one is a better deal?



$4500 and "Loaded with extra accessiries." Well that's true.

or



$4350 and "New Upgrade Accessories include Electric Start, MPH Speedometer, Turn signals..."

Both found today on Orange County CL.
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