Piaggio MP3 - Latest gremlin curing updates!!
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Molto Verboso
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:06 am quote
Thought the latest 2011 dealer training snippets of info might be a bedtime read to some of you, especially Jimc...

First up... the procedure for ECU reprogramming... to be honest not much use to anyone without a navigator but i thought id share it just incase.

Download it HERE

Next up... the new procedure for doing the newer hardened headset bearings, no slackening off, just a preset torque with the new tool and a revised 1st service schedule to include adjustment and retorquing.

Download it HERE

And then we have... the procedure for checking the wheel alignment with the piaggio tooling, and also the introduction of the new steering ball joints with shimming washers to allow toe in/out adjustement.

Download it HERE

And last but by no means least... the procedure for adding drain holes, and then sealing the water entry points on the tilt lock gear housing. This also includes brief details on bleeding the system afterwards.

Download it HERE
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:24 am quote
You little starlet you, CT. Ta muchly!
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:30 am quote
Shazam!!! Awesome!!! Thanks!
Now - I wonder if I can get my dealer to do these under warranty now that there are "official" docs...
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:31 am quote
Very cool!

I might have missed this, but what is the "Navigator"? From the service doc it sounds like it's a nickname for the ECU's firmware or interface device?
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:58 am quote
Bookmarked.
Molto Verboso
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:03 pm quote
All are kindly hosted on JimCs wotmeworry site under useful info...

Yes the navigator is a piaggio group electronic diagnostic tool, made by Texa and called the TXB.
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:53 pm quote
Should be on my U.S. mirrored site too. Checking.
My site hasn't updated yet, think they have the script set to update once a day.

Will check it tomorrow.
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:05 pm quote
Cheeky Thanks a bunch for keeping us up to date on this .
Molto Verboso
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:07 pm quote
No probs... I always pass on what I can get away with
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:10 pm quote
Thanks CT for getting these and also thanks to Jim and Stoots for providing availability. Awesome.
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:13 pm quote
Re: Piaggio MP3 - Latest gremlin curing updates!!
cheekythomas wrote:
Thought the latest 2011 dealer training snippets of info might be a bedtime read to some of you, especially Jimc...



the new procedure for doing the newer hardened headset bearings, no slackening off, just a preset torque with the new tool and a revised 1st service schedule to include adjustment and retorquing.

Any idea if the newer bearings have a different stock number? I fear the notch is coming back on my scoot and I'll have to replace them again and would like to be sure I get the newer bearings. Thanks for the info.
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:25 pm quote
Re: Piaggio MP3 - Latest gremlin curing updates!!
Zinfan wrote:
cheekythomas wrote:
Thought the latest 2011 dealer training snippets of info might be a bedtime read to some of you, especially Jimc...



the new procedure for doing the newer hardened headset bearings, no slackening off, just a preset torque with the new tool and a revised 1st service schedule to include adjustment and retorquing.

Any idea if the newer bearings have a different stock number? I fear the notch is coming back on my scoot and I'll have to replace them again and would like to be sure I get the newer bearings. Thanks for the info.
Very good point.
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:09 pm quote
Thank you, thank you! Let me say thank you again from all of US !
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Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:09 am quote
Thank you CT
My scooter is in the shop with front end problems caused by an accident. The shop hasn't had much experience with MP3s and the shop manual they have was not much help.
I forwarded the link to them, and hopefully they will be able to repair and adjust as good as new.
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Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:31 am quote
Great info to add to my tech archive for future reference. Many thanks for posting these CT, and hosting these JIMC!
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Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:45 am quote
Now I'm still confused about the front end steering tube bearing preload adjustment.
On the one hand we have a method which is tighten so no play then back off 110 degrees and tighten lock nut. The other requires a special tool which looks like an offset spanner wrench and tightening to a torque spec. The tool is special in that the torque references the tool so the offset and such becomes critical - not any old wrench will do. Has anyone compared to see how close they are? 15 NM seems like a bit much compared to tighten then back off. I ask because I want to check mine because I mentioned it to the shop and supposedly they adjusted it to the JimC method. But honestly I dunno whether to trust they did it (properly or at all) and with 12,000+ miles I don't wanna jinx it either! I'm not having anything like the notch and after I make up my mind I want to put the grease in.
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