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Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:13 pm quote
Anyone in the LA area that is interested in seeing the new (hopefully to be delivered to the US at some point) BMW Scooter- I just heard word that it is there, on display at BMW's booth. (along with the K1600GT/L, F800R, etc)

If anyone is down at the show Saturday morning, please stop by and find me, I'll be working from 9:30 until about 2pm.

If you need a discount code for online ticket purchases, use: DN2011

I hear attendance is up, and the shows are looking good! Yahoooo!
~Robyn

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Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:41 pm quote
Crazy lookin scooter. Seriously?
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Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:49 pm quote
Likey likey. It's 800ccs?
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:48 pm quote
I spoke to the main guy from BMW- here's the scoop:
Right now, it is in the "concept" stage, but they are planning to release them here in 2012 or 2013.
There are no technical specs yet. So, no engine size other than it will be a "maxiscooter".
He said that there will be 2 different models, one sporty and one more touring.....
Neither will look exactly like this concept, but have similar styling (typical of BMW).
More info to follow as it is announced....
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:52 pm quote
These will have a drive shaft rather than a belt, won't they?
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I think he said a single sided swing arm- shaft.
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:39 am quote
I wonder what pricing will be? I read an article that said 800cc.

Maybe Yamaha will bring the T Max up to 750cc to compete. Maybe Piaggio will bring the Gilera 800 over here. It's about time for some seriously highway capable maxiscoots.
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:03 am quote
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I wonder what pricing will be? I read an article that said 800cc.
I'm guessing a minimum of $11,990 USD. The base price of a F800ST is $10,990. Assuming it will use a modified version of the Rotax parallel twin with the aforementioned shaft drive minus some of the "concept" bells and whistles that will be lost for the production units.

Looks like it would be great on the highway/suburbs but useless for urban commuting.

If only they would shoehorn one of those new 1600/6s in there . . .
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:50 am quote
Viscerok wrote:
I wonder what pricing will be? I read an article that said 800cc.

Maybe Yamaha will bring the T Max up to 750cc to compete. Maybe Piaggio will bring the Gilera 800 over here. It's about time for some seriously highway capable maxiscoots.
No specs yet, no pricing... we could speculate, and the articles can speculate. I talked to David Robb, who is the designer of this scooter (VP of BMW Motarrad Design), and he said none of that information is available yet.

Believe me... I am waiting with bated breath, and hope to be able to afford one when it arrives.
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:16 pm quote
Hey Robyn! Sorry we missed you at the show but we did check out the scooter concept. Pretty Cool. It is definitely in the concept stage though. That particular version was the infinite economy-coaster version (no engine!)
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:19 pm quote
Hi RobynS,

We did see the BMW Scooter Concept and it is a beauty!!! Would love to get my hands on one when it comes out. It looks so much better in person than in print or pics.

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Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:20 pm quote
Right! I think it was made of wood, too.... LOL!

Sorry I missed you too! Stop by and meet me sometime at Long Beach BMW Motorcycles! (except Wed and Sundays)
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:56 pm quote
As long as the scoot doesn't have that BMW motorcycle signature big glob(s) sticking out off the side(s) of the engine.I know BMW is a quality product but I never liked their engine wings.Of course since were talking scooters here I assume the wings couldn't be there,could they?

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Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:45 pm quote
Viscerok wrote:
I wonder what pricing will be? I read an article that said 800cc.

Maybe Yamaha will bring the T Max up to 750cc to compete. Maybe Piaggio will bring the Gilera 800 over here. It's about time for some seriously highway capable maxiscoots.
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:54 pm quote
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As long as the scoot doesn't have that BMW motorcycle signature big glob(s) sticking out off the side(s) of the engine.I know BMW is a quality product but I never liked their engine wings.Of course since were talking scooters here I assume the wings couldn't be there,could they?
BMW currently 5 other engine configurations that are not the Boxer opposed twin, and one additional engine to be released this spring.... I'm sure it will not have that engine.

BTW... the wings? They call those cylinders.
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:04 pm quote
Re: BMW Concept C Scooter at Long Beach IMS!
RobynS wrote:
Anyone in the LA area that is interested in seeing the new (hopefully to be delivered to the US at some point) BMW Scooter- I just heard word that it is there, on display at BMW's booth. (along with the K1600GT/L, F800R, etc)

If anyone is down at the show Saturday morning, please stop by and find me, I'll be working from 9:30 until about 2pm.

If you need a discount code for online ticket purchases, use: DN2011

I hear attendance is up, and the shows are looking good! Yahoooo!
~Robyn
Saw it in its physical shape in the British Carole Nash Motorcycle Show and too be fair.. it looks alot like a Yamaha T-max.. I mean you just look at it and there isn't much difference albeit the BMW seems to be chain driven
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:24 pm quote
RobynS wrote:
Scootover wrote:
As long as the scoot doesn't have that BMW motorcycle signature big glob(s) sticking out off the side(s) of the engine.I know BMW is a quality product but I never liked their engine wings.Of course since were talking scooters here I assume the wings couldn't be there,could they?
BMW currently 5 other engine configurations that are not the Boxer opposed twin, and one additional engine to be released this spring.... I'm sure it will not have that engine.

BTW... the wings? They call those cylinders.
Mmmm yeah I was gonna say. Not sure a horizontal opposed boxer can do without those and still go...
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:05 pm quote
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Saw the scooter at the show. Thought it was kinda' cool!

Also nice to see you Robyn.........
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:16 pm quote
Yeah. I want one. I suspect it will be price prohibitive
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:48 pm quote
Intrigued by the BMW, I googled it and came up with this. I think I've seen the picture of it on another link thu thought I'd post the article.

BMW Concept C article from Motorcycle-usa

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Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:25 am quote
looks like something out of tron LOL it looks AWESOME
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Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:45 am quote
Finally. I'm just betting that it will be expensive - what BMW isn't?
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Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:26 am quote
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Finally. I'm just betting that it will be expensive - what BMW isn't?
BMW has been (kind of) keeping their pricing in line with a lot of the current bikes out there. Now it's possible to spend more on some Harleys and Goldwings. But like you said the scooter will probably be expensive and also very cool if what I saw in Long Beach is what goes into production.
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Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:30 am quote
R1200GS
With regard to the cost of a BMW bike, there aren't too many bikes that can compete with a GS in terms of resale.

You can ride the crap out of one for years and still command a very high price when you replace it.

That's not true for the entire BMW range, though.
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Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:53 pm quote
I'm very much a BMW rider for many years. I'm on my 7th BMW now and its an awesome bike in all accounts. My main solo bike before this I bought used, two years old, for $8500. Rode the hell out of it for 11 years and sold her for $5500. We had a few other BMWs during this period, two sidecar rigs, and my wife's 650. They all held their resale value very well. But these are motorcycles with a large loyal following.

The BMW scooter is an interesting marketing venture for them. Somewhat of a risk I think as was their "Cruiser" model they no longer sell. The scooter market has a lot of quality bikes at a reasonable cost. I'm curious to see how this works out for a marquee that is always more expensive than most. I'm not sure there is a place for a high end scooter but I could be wrong.

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Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:06 pm quote
no wings
I'd like to see the F650 (790cc) twin in there ... nicer torque than the F800 version (also 790cc)

.. and a belt drive over (or inside) a single sided swingarm - like the F650CS Scarver or F800ST

.. and the engine somewhat forward (or a longer swingarm) for good weight distribution

.. and integrated luggage .. a good glovebox plus large boot plus (detachable) hard panniers

.. and ABS plus alternate engine / suspension maps plus traction control

I already have nice wings ... but a BMW like this could be a good retirement tourer once I've worn out the 1200 ... in another decade or two

I'll be keeping a city scoot, though ...
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Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:39 pm quote
I too saw the scooter at the show and really liked it's futuristic look. I was far more interested in the K1600GTL and fell in love with it at the show. I came back and ran the numbers and do not feel now would be a good time to pull the trigger on such a fine machine. I am glad to see BMW really continuing to push the envelope.
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Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:56 pm quote
Re: R1200GS
stinkyjones wrote:
With regard to the cost of a BMW bike, there aren't too many bikes that can compete with a GS in terms of resale.
That's because they mostly sit in people's garages, with the occasional trip to Starbucks thrown in for good measure.

<--- Owns a BMW R1200R and thinks the GS is for posers
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Re: R1200GS
jess wrote:
<--- Owns a BMW R1200R and thinks the GS is for posers
<--- Currently owns a BMW F650CS and is trolling eBay, Craigslist and BMWMOA Flea Market for a R1200R (although wife isn't aware of the planned upgrade yet) and thinks the GS is for posers too
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Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:50 am quote
Scootover wrote:
As long as the scoot doesn't have that BMW motorcycle signature big glob(s) sticking out off the side(s) of the engine.I know BMW is a quality product but I never liked their engine wings.
Of course since we're talking scooters here I assume the wings couldn't be there, could they?
You never know.....

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Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:17 pm quote
Additional photos
Hi all,

As mentioned above, we attended the show and really enjoyed everything that was there. The BMW Concept C truly is a unique machine and has many things that I'd like see when it comes out in full production (hoping that it does anyway...lol). Here are a few more pics of the Concept C:

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Frontal view

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Side view

BMW Concept C III.jpeg
Tail view

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Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:31 pm quote
Re: R1200GS
stinkyjones wrote:
jess wrote:
<--- Owns a BMW R1200R and thinks the GS is for posers
<--- Currently owns a BMW F650CS and is trolling eBay, Craigslist and BMWMOA Flea Market for a R1200R (although wife isn't aware of the planned upgrade yet) and thinks the GS is for posers too
Own an R1200R because the R1200GS is unquestionably for posers (as well as a couple of mates who really get offroad with theirs), plus my legs are too short for a GS
I've owned 2 F650CS' and loved them (such a great, sweet little bike!) - in fact my 2nd F650CS is in a new home with my sister, and I still get to ride with it.

... I do like motors with wings (the R12R is my 4th flat twin, I've had 3 flat-four Alfas, two flat-four Subarus and one flat-four '72 Superbug .. mmm - that could be a Christmas carol with a little tweaking)
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Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:31 pm quote
Re: R1200GS
jess wrote:
stinkyjones wrote:
With regard to the cost of a BMW bike, there aren't too many bikes that can compete with a GS in terms of resale.
That's because they mostly sit in people's garages, with the occasional trip to Starbucks thrown in for good measure.

<--- Owns a BMW R1200R and thinks the GS is for posers
Poser? Never....

Coast to coast, 3 days, 3,229 miles

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Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:47 am quote
Re: R1200GS
jimh wrote:
jess wrote:
stinkyjones wrote:
With regard to the cost of a BMW bike, there aren't too many bikes that can compete with a GS in terms of resale.
That's because they mostly sit in people's garages, with the occasional trip to Starbucks thrown in for good measure.

<--- Owns a BMW R1200R and thinks the GS is for posers
Poser? Never....

Coast to coast, 3 days, 3,229 miles

Cheers
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Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:04 pm quote
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Poser? Never....

Coast to coast, 3 days, 3,229 miles
They're great bikes, no doubt about it. It's just that they are ill-suited to their stated purpose of off-road riding due to their mammoth size and top-heavy stature. There are lots of bikes better suited to off-road riding. Many (I would even wager most) of the people riding the R1200GS rarely take them off the pavement, if ever.

In many ways, they're the Hummer of the motorcycle world. Status symbol bikes that sit in the garage save for occasional trips to Starbucks.

(But props for riding across country on one... that's much closer to the spirit that it was intended for...)
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Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:23 pm quote
Thanks jess. "Hummer of the motorcycle world " now that's funny mate.

I agree Jess, there are plenty other bikes that are better suited to "Off road" use. KLR650, DR650 and of course KTM (Kick till monday) But that's not the target for BMW.

The GS, while heavy can really navigate the world. See long way round for example.

Sadly too many middle aged men buy these machines, posers i guess with the intent to travel the globe, but never do. It's more the rider than machine IMO.

Also, nothing beats BMW quality i can't wait to see what scooters hit the road.

Though Piaggio still have 64 years on them and when you think of a scooter, you think Vespa

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Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:52 pm quote
Posers unite! We've all been there, minus a liar or three....
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Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:36 pm quote
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The GS, while heavy can really navigate the world. See long way round for example.
yeaup, so well they had to weld the frames together a few times

(I loved that movie. bet KTM was half pissed that they didn't sign on, and half amused that the BMWs had the problems they did)
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Louis--I'm loving the picture of your wife . . .
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