1966 Allstate VLB Spint 150
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Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:34 pm quote
Please help a new guy out.......I have a 1966 Allstate 150 Sprint (VLB/788 94360). It came to me with all of the badges and fender/cowl trim removed. I am mostly confused about trying to replace the leg shield badge. I know of the "Blue Badge" decals, but my leg shield is drilled for an emblem/badge. Were they all drilled, and the Allstates just got the holes covered with the decal? Did any 66's Sears Models get anything other than the blue decal?

Also, the taillight appears to be some generic replacement, and I'd like to return this to original as well. Would this scooter have rec'd the Mickey Mouse light, or did the Allstates get something different?. Lastly, assuming it is the Mickey Mouse I need, what other light will fit in it's place?

Thanks in advance
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Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:10 pm quote
Thanks. I had seen this article and had previously overlooked the line regarding the tail light, so thank you for pointing this out. I would still like to know what other Vespa model tail lamp will fit this scooter, as I assume it will take some hunting before I find the correct Mickey Mouse version. I would like something nicer than what is currently on my scooter, until a "Mickey" can be located (if ever)
The holes in the leg shield still seem cheesy to me, but I guess since these Sears models were identical to a standard "Vespa" of the same year, everything must have come through with the holes drilled in the legshield. (I guess)
The only other source of confusion is that my scooter does not have a pilot light, and I have seen wiring harnesses offered for my scooter, indicating that this is correct.

http://www.scootersoriginali.com/osc/product_info.php?products_id=4090

So then, these Sears models are not necessarily 100% the same as 1966 Vespas, as the article claims, correct? Just not sure what information to trust
Thanks
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Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:30 pm quote
You should be able to use just about ANY type of Vespa tail light on your Allstate. The mounting holes are pretty standard.

I've got a Vespa VNB6T that was purchased new by my father in what was then French Congo, Africa. It came new without a pilot light in the headlamp. When I restored it, I found a NOS headlight reflector and bulb holder that had the pilot light. The wiring harness had a connection for it so I wired it up. My tail light is like what came on the 65 SuperSport. My point is that I think Vespa put these things together with whatever parts they had at the time they built them. There seems to be lots of variation.
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Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:39 pm quote
Please post some pictures to help us get to the bottom of this. Also a VIN would help for more clarification.

There were no Allstates in 1966. Sears stopped using the "Allstate" brand name in 1965. The 1966 Sears "Blue Badge" models were much more like their "Vespa" counterparts, not stripped-down versions like the earlier Allstate models.

Post some pics of the holes too. Do they look "factory?" It is very possible that the holes were drilled by a previous owner in order to run "Vespa" badges.
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Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:53 pm quote
I think there is a mickey mouse light on scoot.net
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Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:23 pm quote
Thanks everyone...
Yeah, I'm just not sure if all models have the same contour to the rear fender, and if just any tail light housing would fit. All of the replacements I have seen offered all seem very model specific, and I just do not know enough about the various models to know which will work best.
The VIN is VLT1B026808. Here are two shots of the current light. The single screw that is currently securing the light I am assuming was drilled by a previous owned, but the two just to either side of the tail light, as well as the rear emblem/badge holes & license plate holes, all look factory).
Appreciate the education and feedback........

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Tail Light Side

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Sears Tag

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Rear

Molto Verboso
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:39 am quote
That's a 1966 Vespa 150 Sprint. What indicates to you that this scooter was sold through Sears?
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:57 am quote
Bar Italia Classics wrote:
That's a 1966 Vespa 150 Sprint. What indicates to you that this scooter was sold through Sears?
Maybe the sears tag?
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:00 am quote
oopsclunkthud wrote:
Bar Italia Classics wrote:
That's a 1966 Vespa 150 Sprint. What indicates to you that this scooter was sold through Sears?
Maybe the sears tag?
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:27 am quote
Except that it was so obviously repainted -- and badly -- a previous owner could have placed on there whatever badges he wanted to.

Like has been said so many times before, just because I put a Vespa badge on a watermelon doesn't make it a Vespa.

Thanks once again, Killo, for your brilliant response to this thread.
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:48 am quote
Bar Italia Classics wrote:
Except that it was so obviously repainted -- and badly -- a previous owner could have placed on there whatever badges he wanted to.

Like has been said so many times before, just because I put a Vespa badge on a watermelon doesn't make it a Vespa.

Thanks once again, Killo, for your brilliant response to this thread.
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:17 am quote
oopsclunkthud wrote:
Bar Italia Classics wrote:
That's a 1966 Vespa 150 Sprint. What indicates to you that this scooter was sold through Sears?
Maybe the sears tag?
Awesome.
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:11 pm quote
Bar
Ok, so the cheap paint job makes the Sears tag a fake? Fine.........it's a 1966 Vesta Sprint.........what tail light fits? I'm still no closer to an answer!
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:22 pm quote
Do you want to know what will fit? Or what is appropriate for your scoot? Almost ANY Vespa tail light will fit. I don't the a Euro P-style tail light is appropriate for your scoot BUT it will fit physically. My thoughts are that either of these would fit AND be approprite to the scoot.

http://www.scooterwest.com/items/?_pageCCS=t#page=/item_details/Tail-Light-GS-160-VBB-Chrome/858

http://www.scooterwest.com/items/?_pageCCS=t#page=/item_details/Vintage-Euro-Tail-Light-SS180-GL-150/856
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:41 pm quote
This is the tail light you want for your 66 Sprint:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/go_bagel/371664070/in/photostream/

It may be difficult to find it. I would try posting on scoot.net to see if anyone has one for sale.

If bad comes to worse, you can put the one Killo mentioned before on and you will be just fine:

http://www.scooterwest.com/items/?_pageCCS=t#page=/item_details/Vintage-Euro-Tail-Light-SS180-GL-150/856
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:49 pm quote
I did some googling and found a page by our own Bagel on flickr that shows a 1966 Blue Badge Sprint with (what he says is) the original tail light.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/go_bagel/463896637/

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Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:50 pm quote
i would use the regular euro sprint tail light. it's cheap, and good enough for temporary use until you find your mickey.

http://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Taillight-Assemblies/P209-B
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:50 pm quote
Velocemente wrote:
This is the tail light you want for your 66 Sprint:
Dammit! You were quicker on the draw than I was.
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:52 pm quote
jess wrote:
Velocemente wrote:
This is the tail light you want for your 66 Sprint:
Dammit! You were quicker on the draw than I was.
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:54 pm quote
http://scoot.net/classifieds/forsale.html?id=27012

$250 obo
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:58 pm quote
Kilo, Velocemente- Thank you both. That's what I needed to know. I've had my eye on the Vintage Euro light, but did not want to order it without some confirmation.
There is in fact a Mickey Mouse light on Scoot.net, but I rather spend the money elsewhere right now (asking $250.00 + it will need at least new lens). I'll go with the Euro for now and keep the Mickey on my Christmas list
Thanks guys!
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:04 pm quote
I had seen that same gray Sprint on Flicker as well...I notice the Legshield appeared drilled for an emblem like mine.

This one, which is from a posting back in August for an ultra low mile Sears Sprint (supposedly), does not appear to be drilled


This one obviously has the Mickey mouse light, and is not drilled for a rear badge/emblem...mine is drilled

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Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:19 pm quote
davincinyc wrote:
Thanks everyone...
Yeah, I'm just not sure if all models have the same contour to the rear fender, and if just any tail light housing would fit. All of the replacements I have seen offered all seem very model specific, and I just do not know enough about the various models to know which will work best.
The VIN is VLT1B026808. Here are two shots of the current light. The single screw that is currently securing the light I am assuming was drilled by a previous owned, but the two just to either side of the tail light, as well as the rear emblem/badge holes & license plate holes, all look factory).
Appreciate the education and feedback........
i like the paint and i always like sprint nor sears

+1 on using euro tail until await the mickey to come out from hiding u can choose between this two model i have use (also u can use vnb/ss tail lamp) all have the same hole to attach and no futher driiling needed









good luck and cheer mate
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