belt warning light blinking on my /500
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2013 Piaggio BV 350 (prior: MP3 500)
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Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:32 pm quote
hey my 3-wheeled friends.

My 2009 MP3 500 now has about 7000 miles on it. A few weeks ago, the following started: I start the bike, the wrench warning light starts blinking along with the belt light simulatneously. they both stop blinking after half a minute.

I had the bike completely serviced per the 6000 miles instructions over the winter. the shop (who I trust) said they checked the belt and it looked fine at least until next winter. I'd rather not disrupt my summer riding by bringing the bike in, but of course will if this is an issue at all, I'm well aware of the consequences.

Something I need to deal with now? Is the blinky just a timed thing that goes on at a certain mileage or is it smart?
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. . 2008 Blue MP3 400. . di Peluria Orso .... 1993 Kawasaki Vulcan 500 ....... 2013 Honda NC700XD
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Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:55 pm quote
If the 6000 mile service was performed then you can reset the wrench icon. They just did the service before the icon came on so didn't get it reset. The belt is another matter. Most 500 owners are replacing the belt around the miles you have. Some a couple thousand more. The belt can look good to normal visual inspection and at best it is a judgement call. I go around 9,000 on my 400 belt.

I expect some other 500 owners will chip in with their opinions on pushing the miles on the belt. If you want to replace the belt yourself there is a great thread with pictures by JoeBulva on how to do it.
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Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:43 pm quote
I'm with Fuzzy on mileage for the belts. 9000 has been a good marker to change it. When I did it at 6k the worn was one was in real good shape. I did install a new one at that time cause I was there. Next one I waited till 13k and it too was in great shape. a little more wear but not nothing to freak about and again I changed it cause I had one and was fixing to go to Amerivespa. I inspected last 2 weeks ago at 17k and its doing great as well. I will monitor but probably won't change it till 21-22k. The scoots I have serviced for others have been fine so far most change at 9k. A few have run as much as 12-14k on a belt. I think thats pushing your luck too far.

you don't have to reset the icon. it won't affect anything. it will keep you reminded that your due for one in the next few k.
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2009 MP3 500, 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14
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Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:55 pm quote
belt warning light blinking
Funny you bring this up now because I'm actually taking a trip to the dealer tomorrow so they can turn off that exact icon duo on my 500, as I'm at around 7800 miles on mine and the belt was replaced earlier by another specialist who just forgot to reset it. I don't believe it's a big deal if your aware of when you're going to get the service, but I personally will have peace of mind not seeing that icon flash every time I start up the bike. I do think the belt replacements in the manual come too soon, every 6k miles. (I guess I'm just used to the way a car works!). You should be okay, though.
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Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:58 pm quote
Re: belt warning light blinking
mharrismel wrote:
Funny you bring this up now because I'm actually taking a trip to the dealer tomorrow so they can turn off that exact icon duo on my 500, as I'm at around 7800 miles on mine and the belt was replaced earlier by another specialist who just forgot to reset it. I don't believe it's a big deal if your aware of when you're going to get the service, but I personally will have peace of mind not seeing that icon flash every time I start up the bike. I do think the belt replacements in the manual come too soon, every 6k miles. (I guess I'm just used to the way a car works!). You should be okay, though.
so it your self no need for the dealer on this . the procedure is in the service manual in the wiki.
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2013 Piaggio BV 350 (prior: MP3 500)
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Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:00 pm quote
phew-- all this advice sounds good, i was particularly worried as i often do trips with a passenger. The rear wheel sudden lockup concept is horrifying.

There's a great service in the NYC area where they pickup your bike in December for storage and return it in April. Licensed Piaggio dealer and they do maintenance while they keep the vehicle.

I'm thinking i'll just wait till winter and have them replace the belt, and fix my weeping coolant issue too.
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Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:08 pm quote
Glad to hear you're going to keep the bike!
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2007 Gilera Fuoco 500ie, 2005 Piaggio X9 Evolution 500ie
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Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:24 am quote
I don't think snapped belt locks wheel, it loses drive from engine to clutch pulley.
Probably more likely to have an engine failure cause a locked wheel
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Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:31 am quote
deepfraught wrote:
I don't think snapped belt locks wheel, it loses drive from engine to clutch pulley.
Probably more likely to have an engine failure cause a locked wheel
Tell that to Joel from the 2008 cannonball run. He had a belt snap while doing 70 and the rear wheel locked and and he did cartwheels in the median. Jess was right behind him and saw it all happen. So the belt can get jammed up and lock the rear wheel up.
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Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:44 am quote
I have seen the aftermath of two broken belts. One on a GT at Amerivespa in Chattanooga and one on my 250. Neither locked the rear wheel, but in both cases the belt shredded into a fibrous mess that wrapped around and in everything under the cover. Easy to see how a locked up rear wheel was a possibility. Best case scenario one is OK but stranded somewhere.

Of course in Chattanooga one can get their picture in the paper pushing a GTS with broken belt.

Not the 15 minutes of fame most of us want.
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Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:58 am quote
StooterBoy wrote:
deepfraught wrote:
I don't think snapped belt locks wheel, it loses drive from engine to clutch pulley.
Probably more likely to have an engine failure cause a locked wheel
Tell that to Joel from the 2008 cannonball run. He had a belt snap while doing 70 and the rear wheel locked and and he did cartwheels in the median. Jess was right behind him and saw it all happen. So the belt can get jammed up and lock the rear wheel up.
I'm sure nothing is impossible, and hopefully the guy got away with it not hurt badly.
Being realistic, if you took all the scooters in the world, and all the instances of belt snapping, and all the instances of belt snaps causing locking, statistically I'd think the "panic per miles" you need to give it isn't high compared to other risks you have, which would be traffic intersections.
And if it was high, and all you had to do was maintain it to the very conservative replacement schedule, then it's hardly something to be ready to hit your panic stations about.
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Piaggio MP3 400 i.e LT
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Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:38 am quote
I had my 6000 service done when there were about 5500 miles in my MP3 400. Today the belt warning light started to blink. Now there are 6400 miles. I assume that everything in my MP3 should be ok because of the service (they changed the belt) and the light is only blinking to remind me to change the belt.

So is it possible to reset it by my self or should I contact the service company? OAD mentioned earlier in this thread:

"so it your self no need for the dealer on this . the procedure is in the service manual in the wiki."

Did I understand this right --> There are instructions somewhere to do it your self?

Hope you understood

Sylly from Finland
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Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:52 am quote
Yes there is a reset button behind one of the plastic panels. You just have to check the manual for which one and where, and spend a small amont of time undoing screws in the order required to get to it.

Basic task no more complicated than cooking an evening dinner when following the instructions. I can't remember off the top of my head where it is, between my two similar scooters I'm mixing them up.

edit: thanks as Stooterboy said, it's my X9 Evo 500ie that has front panel below windshield removed for the reset button.

Last edited by deepfraught on Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:26 am; edited 1 time in total
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Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:23 am quote
deepfraught wrote:
Yes there is a reset button behind one of the plastic panels.
No panels have to come off to reset the service and belt lights.
It's a matter of holding the "Mode" button on the handle bars or the "Set" button on the dash in when you turn the ignition on, forget which one is for the service lights.

It's in the owners manual and VERY VERY easy and quick, no removing anything.
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Piaggio MP3 400 i.e LT
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Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:58 am quote
Thanks StooterBoy! I managed to reset it. Mode button is for choosing between km and miles. Set button for reseting service or belt light. Reseting service or belt light you also need to use clock button as well.

Sylly
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Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:01 am quote
FWIW I replaced mine just before 6,000 (end of season so might as well)..
Amazed at the difference no more squealing on take off and the 500 runs smooth as silk..
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Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:02 am quote
Sylly wrote:
Thanks StooterBoy! I managed to reset it. Mode button is for choosing between km and miles. Set button for reseting service or belt light. Reseting service or belt light you also need to use clock button as well.

Sylly
Glad to help.
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Piaggio MP3 500
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Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:38 am quote
Posting this in case anybody new is looking it up for their 500.

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