Newbie needs advice on buying '85 PX150E
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Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:13 pm quote
Hey everybody, found this forum on a google search.

I'm interested in getting my first Vespa. I found a 1985 PX150E for sale for $2750. It has 82 miles and 1 owner, and has been kept in an airplane hanger its whole life.

The guy I'm dealing with has been forthcoming and pleasant, but I want to make sure I make as informed a decision as I can.

Does this seem like a good deal? If I make a deal, I would like to see if I can get it for around $2000-2250.

What should I look for when I go to inspect it?

I'm as green as they come when it comes to Vespa culture, but am eager to soak up as much info as I can.

Thanks!

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Molto Verboso
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Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:24 pm quote
i wouldn't care to much that it's only got 82 miles on it. that's assuming that the speedometer and odometer actually work. and even if it's accurate, having sat for that long means it might need some work to be a good rider. Seals and rubber dry out and leak when they get brittle from sitting for too long.

i'm not saying that it's a bad bike, or a bad price. Just that these things are temperamental, and they prefer to be ridden.

a P expert will be able to confirm that it's the real deal, and not a re-badged LML.
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Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:56 pm quote
US DOT tail light, arcobelano badge, PX horncast, sure looks like a real one of those '85s to me. Should be electric start. Very clean looking bike. That price is high, but it's rare to find an example in that condition, even on a not super desirable bike. Your target price sounded more fair. I don't think he'll find any other buyer quickly at that full asking price. Still a nice find though.
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Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:08 pm quote
From where I am sitting it looks lovely, just hold fire for a P Expert to have a read...

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Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:45 pm quote
Almost forgot:

VIN: ZAPVLXLN2FP002196

I looked around, but couldn't use this # to confirm/deny the authenticity.

Thanks for the replies so far!
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Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:35 pm quote
CardinalsFan83 wrote:
Almost forgot:

VIN: ZAPVLXLN2FP002196

I looked around, but couldn't use this # to confirm/deny the authenticity.

Thanks for the replies so far!
thats a wierd vin, are you sure it has zap on it



anyway looks like a nice bike
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Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:31 pm quote
This is something I've never seen. I'm not saying it's not legit, just that I've never seen this particular model as a US market bike. In fact, I was not even aware any PX150 models were imported in the 80s.

And yet it clearly has the DOT reflectors, tail light, and it looks like a US market fuel tap lever has been replaced with the 'Euro' conversion lever. If it is legit, it must be one of the last bikes imported before Piaggio pulled out of the US market. Maybe a few of these made it in? Any shop owners seen these here before not as grey market imports?

VIN is a little funny too, as it's a later style #. Is this from the paperwork, or actually stamped on the body? I'd also be interested to know if it has the USA info sticker w/VIN, emissions, etc. anywhere on the body (usually up front behind legshields).

Even if only 82 miles, someone has obviously done some work on it... changing out the fuel tap lever, new tires, Sito+ exhaust, etc., so it's not exactly been in a time capsule.

Nothing here is really a red flag, just makes me interested in the provenance... Interesting bike for sure.
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Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:06 pm quote
More pics if it helps.

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Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:48 pm quote
Yeah, these bikes are a batch of PX150 elestarts legally imported into the states way late, not just right after the P200s were discontinued, but like 2 years later. They had PX horncasts, not that many came through, I know Vespa of Chicago had a bunch, and they held them on the showroom floor for a few years.
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Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:02 am quote
imho....if it is what he says it is...2750 is not bad....
looks nice!
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Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:15 am quote
This person had about 3 or 4 different Vespas for sale about a month ago. All the scooters have under 100 miles and are in near perfect condition. There used to be a local phone number in the ads.

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/mcy/2516455886.html

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/mcy/2563847785.html

Hard to tell if it is a scam or not.

Notice there is no mention of how well the bike runs or if it runs at all. It's pretty common for bikes that have been stored this long to not be in running condition.
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Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:28 am quote
I think if he really wants to sell you can get him down. 2k cash for the blue 150.
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Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:48 pm quote
Thanks for all the info, going to meet with him to look at it this weekend.

Does anyone if this model is oil injected, or requires mixing?
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Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:53 pm quote
It's injected. In fact, you can see the oil tank sight glass in the pics.

Check to make sure it hasn't been unhooked though (but I doubt it with that low of mileage someone probably hasn't messed with it too much).
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Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:07 pm quote
Looks nice. Offer 2k good luck and keep us posted
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Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:47 pm quote
I would had buy it in a heartbeat. That is a good loking color that you don't see on the streets. The condition is pristine, ythe mileage really low. What are you waiting for?
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Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:38 pm quote
Beautiful thing, I will always love that US spec tail light.

And the mileage is very very low, wow...
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Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:41 pm quote
The first one here is interesting...



Ad is titled & pics show a P125X, a large frame. Copy however talks about a smallframe PK , even down to the little grille alongside the horncast for the actual horn.
Tires: 3.00 x10
Max speed: 62mph (97kph)
Total dry weight: 220lbs (82kg)

This model has the same headlight as other PK models but has a different handlebar cover. It has a sporty look and unique shaped exhaust that fits on left hand side and means it canít fit a spare wheel like other PKs. You can if you fit a standard PK exhaust if you need to fit a spare. It also had small horn grille cut into frame to the right of the horn casting. Only about 4000 were made.

Here's my PK, stock when I found it. You can see the odd horn grille.

Pretty sure more than 4000 P125Xs were made. If the bike for sale actually is a virgin PK125XL w/ a pipe & only 80 miles ... I'm so tempted! SUPER BARGAIN, methinks.
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Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:26 pm quote
That red PX was 1500.00 the first time it was listed. I know several people were interested in it until they raised the price to 2550.00 a few days later. If you call on it, don't act too interested!
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Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:15 am quote
Weird. Another one of these US market 150 elestarts just showed up on the Bay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-Vespa-Piaggio-PX-150e-elestart-Scooter-/160651837771?pt=Scooters_Mopeds&hash=item256798814b#ht_585wt_1167
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Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:38 am quote
Helios Vespucci wrote:
Beautiful thing, I will always love that US spec tail light.
Me too!
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Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:11 pm quote
Hangars have planes, planes have space, pilots have mates with bigger planes, a scooter could easily have gotten on an empty flight from anywhere to there. So one owner who likes to flog small bikes for decent cash isnt too unordinary.

Just saying


*edit* unordinary... is that a word?





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Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:33 pm quote
Makes Sense Trumpy - my father told me a story recently when he was in the military and he fixed up an old Vespa that they took everywhere with them...
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Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:41 pm quote
qascooter wrote:
Makes Sense Trumpy - my father told me a story recently when he was in the military and he fixed up an old Vespa that they took everywhere with them...
Exactly Gas! Ive chucked my scoots on a herc up and down the country on more than one occasion and nobody battered an eyelid, although they were last on. That way if there were any problems they could open the ramp and ditch them into the sea they said
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Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:06 am quote
If you buy the blue one, I'm sure you will have to pull the tank to clean it but if that's not the case you will probably have to pull it anyway. The sito plus pipe has something dripping down it in the photo and I'm sure it's the oil tank leaking and the oil injection won't be trustworthy until the leak is fixed.
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