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Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:04 am quote
teabow1 wrote:
Yes, there's the "mode" button" and then another button that looks like a zig-zag line. I love that there is an outside temperature gauge. That's really quite useful as a warning for black ice. Too bad the BV 250 doesn't have this.

Really, really nice scooter, Giorgos!
thank you!
that button,on the right to the mode one is the ignition button.
teabow1 wrote:
Hmm...that's definitely a step backwards from the BV 250 which has two distinct turn signal lights.
yes
and the new beverly 300 2010 model wich has almost identical panel has also two distinct turn signal lights.
bunnybash wrote:
thanks for the great pics and ride report!

i am curious if you have ridden a 250cc scooter before and if you are able to write a comparison at all?
you re welcome
within 15 years of riding i had in my possession
Honda C 50
Honda SF 400 version R
Honda CB Hornet 919
Vespa ET4 125
Piaggio Liberty 125 S
Vespa LX 150
Aprilia Sportcity 250i

and i have riden many more

I can tell you for sure that to this price and cubism
this is the scooter with the most instant power on your palm
and this is a result of the new transmission.

Best
Giorgos
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Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:19 pm quote
It will be interesting to see how Piaggio styles the "Beverly" name out of the U.S. models and puts "BV350" or whatever on the side of the scooter. The way the European models look it shows that the design team (or the styling studio) put some time into integrating the name into the overall design. There will also probably be subtle changes all over the bike to meet our standards- turn signals etc. Please post photos and a detailed description whoever gets to see a U.S. spec version first! Still hoping that I like the color combos we get....

Bob
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Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:55 pm quote
teabow1 wrote:
Yes, there's the "mode" button" and then another button that looks like a zig-zag line. I love that there is an outside temperature gauge. That's really quite useful as a warning for black ice. Too bad the BV 250 doesn't have this.

Really, really nice scooter, Giorgos!
Silly, silly me! I figured out what the zig-zag line is. D'OH! I was riding yesterday and noticed that that button is the STARTER button. D'OH!
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Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:58 pm quote
BVBob wrote:
It will be interesting to see how Piaggio styles the "Beverly" name out of the U.S. models and puts "BV350" or whatever on the side of the scooter. The way the European models look it shows that the design team (or the styling studio) put some time into integrating the name into the overall design. There will also probably be subtle changes all over the bike to meet our standards- turn signals etc. Please post photos and a detailed description whoever gets to see a U.S. spec version first! Still hoping that I like the color combos we get....

Bob
Yeah, I wonder why they don't call it Beverly in the US. Are female names for scooters just not palatable for the American PTW market?

Yeah, gorgeous scooter, and I LOVE that maroon/black colour. Just fabulous. I was surprised to hear so many comments about not wanting that maroon/black combo.
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Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:25 pm quote
teabow1 wrote:
BVBob wrote:
It will be interesting to see how Piaggio styles the "Beverly" name out of the U.S. models and puts "BV350" or whatever on the side of the scooter. The way the European models look it shows that the design team (or the styling studio) put some time into integrating the name into the overall design. There will also probably be subtle changes all over the bike to meet our standards- turn signals etc. Please post photos and a detailed description whoever gets to see a U.S. spec version first! Still hoping that I like the color combos we get....

Bob
Yeah, I wonder why they don't call it Beverly in the US. Are female names for scooters just not palatable for the American PTW market?

Yeah, gorgeous scooter, and I LOVE that maroon/black colour. Just fabulous. I was surprised to hear so many comments about not wanting that maroon/black combo.
The Beverly name probably wouldn't fly here. I'm one of the commentators regarding the red/black. The black part I like- check out my avatar. If it was black over black I'll take one. Black over Red, black over white, black over blue..... you get the picture. Oh well, I'll just wait and see what we get and I'll make my final judgement when I see one in person. I got my bv out for a couple short rides Sunday and Monday. Earliest in the year I've ever ridden. She's back under her cover in the garage today though- snowing lightly as I type.

Bob
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Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:56 pm quote
BVBob wrote:
The Beverly name probably wouldn't fly here. I'm one of the commentators regarding the red/black. The black part I like- check out my avatar. If it was black over black I'll take one. Black over Red, black over white, black over blue..... you get the picture. Oh well, I'll just wait and see what we get and I'll make my final judgement when I see one in person. I got my bv out for a couple short rides Sunday and Monday. Earliest in the year I've ever ridden. She's back under her cover in the garage today though- snowing lightly as I type.

Bob
Ah, I see. Yeah, I like to get away from the black coloured saddles for any scooters, though my scooter's is black LOL! Dealer offered me a GREAT price on a floor model, so heck, why not. I'm a guy who wears cordovan coloured clogs (or used to, until the rubber rotted away!). LOL

Hope you have more time to scoot! Winter here in the Piedmont area of NC is really not bad at all. Couldn't imagine being in Ohio right now...brrrr!
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Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:29 am quote
maybe the beverly name is beeing used in the States and Piaggio cant use it.

back in 2002 when i bought my Honda Hornet 900
in US it was called 919.
because Honda couldn't use the name Hornet
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Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:57 am quote
I think we Americans don't like feminine names for vehicles (unless we name them ourselves, of course). We seem to like letters and numbers, especially "Z"s and "X"s.

Imagine how well the Datsun (Nissan) 240Z would have sold with it's original name: "Fairlady"
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:36 am quote
Just got back from Technical training on the BV350.
Pretty damn amazing engine!!

6,500 miles service intervals, 15k belt change intervals, gear oil changed at 625 miles and then only inspected at 24k miles!!!

Story and MANY pictures to come!!!

That wet clutch is phenomenal!!
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:23 am quote
AlexBv200 wrote:
Just got back from Technical training on the BV350.
Pretty damn amazing engine!!

6,500 miles service intervals, 15k belt change intervals, gear oil changed at 625 miles and then only inspected at 24k miles!!!

Story and MANY pictures to come!!!

That wet clutch is phenomenal!!
Can't wait to hear and see more about this scoot! When is the launch date again?

Bob
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:33 am quote
BVBob wrote:
AlexBv200 wrote:
Just got back from Technical training on the BV350.
Pretty damn amazing engine!!

6,500 miles service intervals, 15k belt change intervals, gear oil changed at 625 miles and then only inspected at 24k miles!!!

Story and MANY pictures to come!!!

That wet clutch is phenomenal!!
Can't wait to hear and see more about this scoot! When is the launch date again?

Bob
First bikes should hit showrooms in April; dealer meeting is next month and should know more by then.
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:44 pm quote
Oh I almost forgot... no more oil cartridge filter!!!!!
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:51 pm quote
There will be a spin on filter???

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Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:21 pm quote
fried okra wrote:
There will be a spin on filter???

fried okra
Open cap, and change the "paper" filter close cap, and voila..
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:24 pm quote
AlexBv200 wrote:
fried okra wrote:
There will be a spin on filter???

fried okra
Open cap, and change the "paper" filter close cap, and voila..
A'la most asian motorcyles? (internal element style?)
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:28 pm quote
gogogordy wrote:
AlexBv200 wrote:
fried okra wrote:
There will be a spin on filter???

fried okra
Open cap, and change the "paper" filter close cap, and voila..
A'la most asian motorcyles? (internal element style?)
Yup....
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:26 pm quote
AlexBv200 wrote:
gogogordy wrote:
AlexBv200 wrote:
fried okra wrote:
There will be a spin on filter???

fried okra
Open cap, and change the "paper" filter close cap, and voila..
A'la most asian motorcyles? (internal element style?)
Yup....
Thank you.

And Thank You for your ongoing, un-varnished, no BS info on this.
Seriously, nice to get just the info without any "spin".
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:31 pm quote
Where's the pix? I'm dying here.......

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Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:54 am quote
BVBob wrote:
Where's the pix? I'm dying here.......

Bob
Bob,

Unfortunately, 3 hours into our trip in LA we had all of our stuff stolen from the trunk of our rental car, including suitcases, laptops, ipads, and my cable for my camera.
I have a replacement coming in next week, but will try to find a way to upload pics in the meantime.
Note to self... do NOT rent a Chevy Malibu.. with the alarm going off, you can still pop the trunk open from the inside.. WTF Chevy?!?!?!?!

Wait until you see the pictures of the Petersen museum that has a scooter pavillion!!!
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Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:34 am quote
AlexBv200 wrote:
BVBob wrote:
Where's the pix? I'm dying here.......

Bob
Bob,

Unfortunately, 3 hours into our trip in LA we had all of our stuff stolen from the trunk of our rental car, including suitcases, laptops, ipads, and my cable for my camera.
I have a replacement coming in next week, but will try to find a way to upload pics in the meantime.
Note to self... do NOT rent a Chevy Malibu.. with the alarm going off, you can still pop the trunk open from the inside.. WTF Chevy?!?!?!?!

Wait until you see the pictures of the Petersen museum that has a scooter pavillion!!!
Sorry to hear that Alex. That really sucks big time. Looking forward to seeing the pics. Snowing like hell here today so the only scootering is done through here...
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Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:41 am quote
BVBob wrote:
AlexBv200 wrote:
BVBob wrote:
Where's the pix? I'm dying here.......

Bob
Bob,

Unfortunately, 3 hours into our trip in LA we had all of our stuff stolen from the trunk of our rental car, including suitcases, laptops, ipads, and my cable for my camera.
I have a replacement coming in next week, but will try to find a way to upload pics in the meantime.
Note to self... do NOT rent a Chevy Malibu.. with the alarm going off, you can still pop the trunk open from the inside.. WTF Chevy?!?!?!?!

Wait until you see the pictures of the Petersen museum that has a scooter pavillion!!!
Sorry to hear that Alex. That really sucks big time. Looking forward to seeing the pics. Snowing like hell here today so the only scootering is done through here...
Yeah kinda sucked big time, but we did not let this affect our trip too much.
Ouch.. enjoy the snow!
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Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:45 am quote
seat color
does anyone know yet the seat and dash color for the black unit?
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Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:37 am quote
Re: seat color
garyking wrote:
does anyone know yet the seat and dash color for the black unit?
I think it will be black upper dash and red lower dash/ glovebox/ seat.
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Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:39 am quote
Re: seat color
AlexBv200 wrote:
garyking wrote:
does anyone know yet the seat and dash color for the black unit?
I think it will be black upper dash and red lower dash/ glovebox/ seat.
NICE NICE NICE! That's the combo I like!
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Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:03 am quote
It seems like scooters are filling the gaps left when motorcycles started getting bigger and bigger. 30 years ago it was pretty easy to find a mid to smaller sized cc engine, that could be more easily ridden by smaller riders. Now they are all just monstrosities, and jacked way up. The sad thing is, many of these scooters are a bit tall too, which is also pretty silly.
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Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:27 am quote
Re: seat color
AlexBv200 wrote:
garyking wrote:
does anyone know yet the seat and dash color for the black unit?
I think it will be black upper dash and red lower dash/ glovebox/ seat.
I hope we somehow end up getting other color combos that have a black seat etc. I remember in 2003 the dealer I bought my LT150 telling me that Piaggio always seemed to change color availability with almost every order he made. I hope that is somewhat the case with these. I will buy one with the right color combo. If they don't come that way early on I'll get new tires on my Reflex and keep it until they do. Still hoping....

Bob
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Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:32 am quote
Re: seat color
BVBob wrote:
AlexBv200 wrote:
garyking wrote:
does anyone know yet the seat and dash color for the black unit?
I think it will be black upper dash and red lower dash/ glovebox/ seat.
I hope we somehow end up getting other color combos that have a black seat etc. I remember in 2003 the dealer I bought my LT150 telling me that Piaggio always seemed to change color availability with almost every order he made. I hope that is somewhat the case with these. I will buy one with the right color combo. If they don't come that way early on I'll get new tires on my Reflex and keep it until they do. Still hoping....

Bob
I'm holding out for the red/silver one I've seen for the home market to come here. (that, and saving my shekels)

I sooo wanted a GT200 when they came out, but didn't buy one for the color choices.

As soon as the GTS was announced, available in red....I was "done". Ordered immediately.

Yes, I admit that publicly
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Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:37 am quote
not my video

showing the acceleration 0-100 km/h
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Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:00 am quote
george mg wrote:
not my video

showing the acceleration 0-100 km/h
That looks to be about 7-9 seconds to 62mph correct? That's pretty fast for a scooter! I was trying to time it when he actually hits right before 100km but it is hard to look at my watch and the video at the same time- plus I'm at work . These scooters look better and better everytime. Can't wait to see one in person.

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Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:31 am quote
I finally got the cable for my digital camera so here are the pics of the engine and clutch of the beast!!!

Copy of BV350Clutch21.JPG
On the left.... BV350 engine... on the right... outgoing 300 engine!!

Copy of BV350Clutch18.JPG
Case opened

Copy of BV350Clutch19.JPG
Engine

Copy of BV350Clutch20.JPG
Other side

Copy of BV350Clutch16.JPG
Front view

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Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:34 am quote
Moar!!!!

Copy of BV350Clutch14.JPG
No more cartridge....

Copy of BV350Clutch13.JPG
Rollers

Copy of BV350Clutch5.JPG
THE CLUTCH!!!!!!

Copy of BV350Clutch4.JPG
This is how you remove it; there are tabs to pull it out.

Copy of BV350Clutch3.JPG

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Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:18 am quote
All this great info and photos are going to drive us frickin' crazy if this bike does not show up in the US this year (with an MP3 version not too far behind)
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Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:21 am quote
great pics!
i m starting to enjoying it more and more..
the only thing is that i m love sick..
i had test ride the Honda Integra 700 today ...
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Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:44 am quote
AlexBv200 wrote:
I finally got the cable for my digital camera so here are the pics of the engine and clutch of the beast!!!
Awesome. Thanks for posting those.
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Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:49 am quote
You guys are most welcome!

I have been trying to post these for like 2 weeks now!!

Oil pump is on the other side, the clutch opens on the other side.. that bike is so freaking wicked!!!!
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Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:50 am quote
Restraint
Damn.

Want. Gonna hold out for a red version (makes me feel better for not scratching the itch)
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Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:27 pm quote
That is one nice looking motor.
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Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:41 pm quote
Looks like it's going to be a nice bike to service, though it looks like the valve check/adjustment is going to require de-tupperwaring. Looking at the plastics and the positions of the common service parts, as far as I can tell, this basically becomes the easiest of the moderns plastic bodywork scooters to actually get to for servicing, combined with longer service intervals, it looks more and more compelling to replace me BV5 as my 'daily' rider.
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Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:10 pm quote
Re: Restraint
gogogordy wrote:
Damn.

Want. Gonna hold out for a red version (makes me feel better for not scratching the itch)
That's my plan too. Maybe some red ones will show up sooner than later. Guess I'll continue to hold out hope. These do look and sound fantastic.

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Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:04 am quote
bv350
first black one that comes into a ny dealership im buying.i sold my vespa 2010 gts.how much better will the bv 350 feel compared to my 300 gts as far as the ride and handling?thanks.
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