It's not really a tip or a trick but this is a handy place to keep it visible. I wanted to put this up as a bit of a resource, it makes very interesting reading. Thanks to Subetherbass for pointing it out. It's been translated from Italian. Some of the images were dead so don't appear here either. * 1st Place: QUATTRINI M1XL
the absolute best so far: turn at will, is made of aluminum and has a capacity of 171, not 177 as the dr, Pinasco, PARMAKIT, and Polini, but it is the strongest, because in addition to be of aluminum has the very thin bands, the suction laminated directly to the cylinder and inside seems a colander for the quantity and the size of the transfer ports. this is his portmap: 2 * Rank: QUATTRINI M1X identical to the larger brother L, but does not have the suction cylinder, here is the portmap:
2 * Rank: QUATTRINI M1X
identical to the larger brother L, but does not have the suction cylinder, here is the portmap:
3 * Rank: Malossi 166 Bifascia
(the single ring is nowhere to be found but would be better) the little brother I think compared all'm1x ... is pretty much the M1X the poor or who wants to be on a M1X but has only spent about EUR 160 ... shall have the same speed or a little bit less of the money, it can be corrected with less money, he also has thin straps, and a piston which is a work of art ... I think most of the money and also lighter ... but still does not compare with the M1X that is ahead of course The piston is 1mm bore in less dell'm1x, and are therefore less than 2 Polini and company to 177cc ...
4 * Place: PARMAKIT TSV
(IS CAST ALUMINUM is ANOTHER THING AS THE PINASCO) and This is the place I wanted after the Malossi because in my opinion is nothing more than a copy of the Polini cast iron but have the same shape and the same piston transfer ports, except that here is a little more fragile (but lighter) the Polini and also has the very thin strips 1 3 above ... which makes it also very thirsty speed, it would be the best choice to make on ebay
is located at 235 Euros and it would be a successful union of economical performance and reliability if it were not for that damn piston, which everybody talks about bad .... according to someone besides the finish would not be at the top ... but I like anyway, and what I would like my vespa it would be the best (because you can mount the race without heating as the Polini 60) one of the photo is the version with the new liquid graphite piston, but there are also other versions Candle central and lateral run 60, and an unprecedented new version with forged piston even inootre all versions have various head and base gaskets, which are used to sew the cylinder to suit your needs without killing calculate squish and squosh and buy whiskers or company beautiful
5 * Place: Polini 177
(bands 2 mm - 177 cc) The best-selling, most popular, the most noble, the most bought, most famous, the most videato and framed, the dream also, the most seized ... it's him! the Polini 177, everybody talks about good and evil everyone is talking about, everyone says that it has less torque than a dr, but then everyone says that a couple from fear, everyone says that seizes easily, but then everyone says that is not properly adjusted Binds, all the changes as they believe best cutting "L" or not cutting them ... everyone says that senior fantastic, but fell five minutes before his Vespa 125 seized half of his father and then he feels a missile ... in short, is the most famous of all and the most sold ... but in the end it's just a cylinder, I would take it with my eyes closed but if I do it just because it is the same for 20 years, our beloved Polini did and since that day there has never put his hand ... he left them all and continue to buy seize it, and buy it back, sell it used, rectify enlarge it ... well .. buy it all just to not have concussions and go on the safe side, maybe because they are afraid to experiment with some nice malossi or some nice PARMAKIT ... but it would be too risky, better a nice Polini is known and go! portmap here is different, each one different, as amended respectively by: typaco (a Kraut I think) and worb, the third I think is originally published these various portmap are just to show everyone that he does what he wants and makes it come out beautiful things, there's a video on youtube of a MP that if PRTA on the track and it runs great, certainly after he took a M1X and found himself better, but even with 177 polinone not joking
6 * place: Pinasco 177 Aluminum
: (ranges from 2mm 177cc) attention, I speak of the aluminum version, for those who should read, there is also cast iron but it is another world ... The cylinder better reliability as a relatively cheap ... in the end with 190 200 takes home .... but almost all describe it as a original cylinder displacement increased with the only ... do not expect to wheelie acceleration taken and edited ... because it is not so ... even some people who go for it broadens the discharge of 3mm unthinkable for another cylinder listed above ... you rezlizzerebbe like a proto Rotax for small air hahaha (but not lower) the fact is that those who raised the discharge of 3 mm believes that gained even at low ... then this shows that the people 'designed ... he planned to sell to travelers and some old man who restores the wasp and wants to give it that extra sparkle ... and maybe we need to do some giterella not seize it ... also because I'm sure seizes not miss if you go without oil is so calm that is the portmap racking my original lml are wider (personal opinion: look at the picture above and you will see that the transfer frontescarico is narrow at the base and wide top is a ... something very wrong as fluid because it is said that if the mixture meets a larger space tend to lose pressure ... and this should not happen ... but Pinasco aluminum is so ... well ....) also that picture is the version 2 transfers to low ... one for has 3 px then decanted and a second side opposite the exhaust ... the photo is for guidance .... also this cylinder is the best to assemble in the race 60. .. just because of the other more relaxed and more reliable for long distance
7 * place: DR 177
- 177 OLYMPIA - PINASCO -PARMAKIT CAST IRON 177 177: ranges from 2 mm 177 cc THE MOST loved and sold by all after the Polini, all the best geeks love it, but no one takes it (always prefer the Polini) all the mechanics would recommend .... all have the fear of scratches in the barrel of the cylinder but is said to be the most reliable of all those cast iron .... everyone says it has a couple scary at low but then measure the squish and is 3 mm but why? everyone says it's a loose and if you work as a polini but goes even better ... and Polinizzano widening at the base as the Polini ... everyone says that scampanella because tolerance is wrong ... but then they light a money and scampanella a Polini and even that cold ... everyone says that the booster exhaust serve to increase the maximum power at high rpm ... but he always has the torque at low .... then who has a Polini and test says he did not do it low ... high and those with a lml says it's better the original cylinder of lml 150 (partly true because the lml has decanting larger base) but then talking to a mechanic and a friend who has tried told me that even on the lml is better than 150 original and pulled like a mule ... (and it has not changed the jets do not even removed from the filter pre-filter and white jersey he made holes) as the Polini has many different opinions and no one knows her, those who have it say it is a splinter ... but thanks to the cax ... those who have it or assembled it to him that is a 16 year old father or Mechanical or is accustomed to a 150 pooped ... or is it a passionate reading various guides and after having optimized the melgar also has made a Polini because maybe the recalculated I squish ... he basettato below and expanded the boosterini and exhaust ... basic things that are wanting to say it takes a while ... but it is actually worth if sti one if it makes them work alone and then you have the satisfaction of doing to try the wasp to friends and tell ... I only have a dr ... what do you want to be ... and make the road one-wheel acceleration in 1 ... * ------------ ------------------------------ I hope I have made happy who has just bought a Vespa and reads this post, I also first I tried to know vesparesources opinions left and right, and there sleep at night ..... I tried to put in a post, that I have read and understood in a month of reading research, comments, graphics, video and photos. .. this post is not addressed to the members of the forum who know the cylinders one by one, but only to those who want to change the cylinder and do not know what to put or do not want to make a fool of by some clever mechanic that wants to give him such a dr telling him that is the same because it's always a polini 177 or malossi which is even better than the 166 ... just for that, I tried to be as impartial and objective as possible ... if you believe that the PARMAKIT aluminum and are the best of the Polini malossi is fine with me, I know that there is a difference in mount p & p and making all the work around ... but I think the ranking is just this ... maybe if you have the data in hand or you want to have your say we will not do that good to all readers who like me will follow you as passionate as I do every day ... I rilassandomi!