Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:49 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:49 pm linkquote
I got the rear wheel in and installed....

In short... nothing to grind or modify on my 2006 GTS... went on as easy and changing the rear wheel with a 12"


Tire size on the rear rim is 140/60/13... the centerstand gets it up just high enough to allow the rear wheel to roll freely

Are both the front and rear wheels exactly centered down the centerline of the bike??? Nope... Not really.

I would say they are within 5-10 mm off centerline... is it enough to worry about??? I am still thinking on it... I don't notice it riding. the bike doesn't lean different one way to the next. Im not sure it's worth pulling it all back apart to have the hub of the wheel machined such a small amount to make them perfect.

The look is fantastic!

The ride is great.

it makes the bike feel bigger overall, and "locked on center" better going down the road.

Im not as disheveled by potholes and undulations...

So without further adieu!!!










Rear wheel slightly off center


Front wheel is slightly off as well.... But you really have to look.



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Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:52 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:52 pm linkquote
Sweet! That looks real nice.......

Thad
Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:04 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:04 pm linkquote
looks great
Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:15 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:15 pm linkquote
It really does look good. Congrats on a great job!
Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:17 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:17 pm linkquote
Wheels
Did the wheel brace plate (what the shock mounts to) fit flush or did you have to crank down the hardware or use spacers?
Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:18 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:18 pm linkquote
Spacer?
Nice.

Could a spacer, or some well-placed machining on a mating part put both wheels on the same centerline somehow? Which is "off", front or rear?
Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:26 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:26 pm linkquote
When you only had the front wheel on, did you notice any difference in the handling or "head shake" because of the change in rake/trail?
Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:51 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:51 pm linkquote
Re: Wheels
vespisti SF wrote:
Did the wheel brace plate (what the shock mounts to) fit flush or did you have to crank down the hardware or use spacers?
It fit flush...

I had to:

Install the conical spacer after putting on the wheel.... The wheel is "Hub Centric" so it fit the rear hub flawlessly.

I think that Scooterwest is grinding down this conical spacer to allow the wheel to be installed after the conical spacer is put on but I figured out that once the wheel is on the Conical spacer slots right into place and even has a chamfered space in the wheel center that it "locks into"
Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:59 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:59 pm linkquote
Re: Spacer?
gogogordy wrote:
Nice.

Could a spacer, or some well-placed machining on a mating part put both wheels on the same centerline somehow? Which is "off", front or rear?
A spacer will not make it come together "centered"
Truth is the offset of the wheel is not right, so I would need to have the center hub of the wheel machined about 5mm to make the perfectly centered.

Is it worth all that to make a 5mm correction??? It doesn't rub anything and I don't notice anything odd while riding... all i notice is the improvements.
Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:01 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:01 pm linkquote
YaYaDave wrote:
When you only had the front wheel on, did you notice any difference in the handling or "head shake" because of the change in rake/trail?
No head shake at all.. this bike has been locked on center since I installed the front wheel....

It feels like a bigger bike now and the handling is more forgiving and deliberate...

I like it.
Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:33 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:33 pm linkquote
Looks great. It would be good to hear a review from you in a few months time when you have really got used to the mod.
Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:38 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:38 pm linkquote
Those wheels look



Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:59 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:59 pm linkquote
Very KOOL!
I know what you mean about making your scooter feel more planted........
Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:01 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:01 pm linkquote
are those rims wider then stock one....
Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:20 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:20 pm linkquote
dinamassurker wrote:
are those rims wider then stock one....
They are the same... about 3 inches wide.
Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:24 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:24 pm linkquote
Nice job!
Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:52 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:52 pm linkquote
Re: Rolling on 13"s... the Yourban wheel conversion is
euro2wheelnut wrote:
I got the rear wheel in and installed....


I would say they are within 5-10 mm off centerline... is it enough to worry about???


The look is fantastic!
You're right, it looks cool! Suits the lines better than the 5spoke I think.

As for the offset? A drag mate has a high 8sec Suzuki EFE (that's quick and a bit intense with stock wheelbase and no bars.......) and he hasn't noticed any problems with the rear wheel offset 8mm. Since he has enough grunt to have to reset the chain tension and straighten the wheel after every pass, I think any issues would have been noticed by now!

Done good man, that's really nice.
Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:57 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:57 pm linkquote
euro2wheelnut wrote:
dinamassurker wrote:
are those rims wider then stock one....
They are the same... about 3 inches wide.
hows the handling and breaking
Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:59 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:59 pm linkquote
dinamassurker wrote:
euro2wheelnut wrote:
dinamassurker wrote:
are those rims wider then stock one....
They are the same... about 3 inches wide.
hows the handling and breaking
Hopefully there won't be any breaking. But the braking feedback would be good to hear.
Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:04 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:04 pm linkquote
Boulty wrote:
dinamassurker wrote:
euro2wheelnut wrote:
dinamassurker wrote:
are those rims wider then stock one....
They are the same... about 3 inches wide.
hows the handling and breaking
Hopefully there won't be any breaking. But the braking feedback would be good to hear.
yeah ... ter will b good stability I guess and our indian model vespa gets a 3 spoke alloys
Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:26 pm

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Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:26 pm linkquote
I love the look of those! Awesome!

Kudos to you for having the balls to do it and finding out the positives and negatives of the conversion.
Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:44 am

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Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:44 am linkquote
It DOES look nice.

And a bit of a low profile "sleeper" mod that is more than just cosmetic. 8)
Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:14 am

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Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:14 am linkquote
VNB wrote:
Those wheels look
Thank you...

You know what would be even more PIMP?

That classic from your picture in MY garage! But then what would your username be?
Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:16 am

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Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:16 am linkquote
Folks looking/building toward Cannonball 2014 will probably be looking at this.
Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:41 am

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Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:41 am linkquote
Wheel
Curious to see what the long term test of these wheels will reveal. The speedometer and odometer will read inaccurately for sure.
Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:50 am

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Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:50 am linkquote
euro2wheelnut wrote:
I would say they are within 5-10 mm off centerline... is it enough to worry about??? I am still thinking on it... I don't notice it riding. the bike doesn't lean different one way to the next.
Non issue.

Front and rear are offset same so just changes centerline slightly. Same thing on my 150 when I swapped to 12s. Visual only, no difference when riding.
Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:41 pm

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Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:41 pm linkquote
when in the center stand the rear wheel touches the ground.isn t that dangerous?a little push and its off the stand.btw it looks very good.how does it feel when you hit a bump?smoother or the same?
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Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:01 am

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Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:01 am linkquote
Did you tried those tires in the wet yet?

I now have ContiTwists and those su** in the wet.
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Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:17 am linkquote
Any update after a few months? Has anyone else done this?
Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:51 am

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Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:51 am linkquote
I have 13 inch wheels on my scoot ,centre stand, lifts high enough
to lift back wheel,and have bike running,no probs



oops missed the stand bit out
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:01 am

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Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:01 am linkquote
Old post but I give it a shot.
I see that you have a 140/60-13 on the rear wheel.
Does it rub some where?
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Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:15 am

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Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:15 am linkquote
Well I have just bougth my 13" mp3 wheels.
I had to mill off approx. 1mm as you can see in this video.

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Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:08 pm

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Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:08 pm linkquote
ABS?
Did anyone do this with an ABS GTS yet? It has the ABS sensor bolted to the stock rear rim which would need to be fitted to the Yourban rim
italjohn wrote:
Well I have just bougth my 13" mp3 wheels.
I had to mill off approx. 1mm as you can see in this video.

Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:29 am

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Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:29 am linkquote
jeff4510 wrote:
Did anyone do this with an ABS GTS yet? It has the ABS sensor bolted to the stock rear rim which would need to be fitted to the Yourban rim
italjohn wrote:
Well I have just bougth my 13" mp3 wheels.
I had to mill off approx. 1mm as you can see in this video.

+1 on this -- I just bought a 13" MP3 wheel for the front of my '15 GTS and was planning to change out the rear as well once I wear some tread down...
Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:39 am

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Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:39 am linkquote
What size is the front tire? Has anyone run 140 front and back?
Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:04 am

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Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:04 am linkquote
ddaarr wrote:
What size is the front tire?
Bought a 130/70-13... mounting it to 13" mp3 'business' wheel
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Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:55 pm

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Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:55 pm linkquote
My first post and digging up an old thread.

I'm awaiting delivery of front+rear MP3 Business wheels and the modified rear wheel hub. Based on photos above, the clearance of the rear wheel on the main stand with 140/60-13 rear seems slim. Has anyone tried fitting 150/70-13 tyres?
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