Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:26 am

Member
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
Posts: 26

 
Member
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
Posts: 26

Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:26 am linkquote
Hi,

Gilera Fuoco 2008, 83K km.
When driving slow handlebar is "hard" to turn. Feels like i need to fight it to turn.
When driving normally, no issues with steering.

I guess it's the steering bearing issue.

So only one question, is it safe to ride like this ( until fixing it in 2 - 3 weeks ) ?

Thanks
Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:23 pm

Moderaptor
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 40221
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
 
Moderaptor
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 40221
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:23 pm linkquote
As long as you're aware of the notch - I guess safe enough. If you have a spare half-hour, the Gonzo tweak will get rid of the problem for a few thousand miles. Actually replacing the bearings will take far, far longer.
Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:33 pm

Hooked
Fuoco 500ie - 2007, Benelli Adiva 150 - 2003
Joined: 08 Jan 2013
Posts: 399
Location: North West London,UK
 
Hooked
Fuoco 500ie - 2007, Benelli Adiva 150 - 2003
Joined: 08 Jan 2013
Posts: 399
Location: North West London,UK
Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:26 pm

Member
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
Posts: 26

 
Member
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
Posts: 26

Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:26 pm linkquote
Thank you
Thank for the answer
Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:58 pm

Hooked
MP3 500
Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Posts: 264
Location: Columbus OH USA
 
Hooked
MP3 500
Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Posts: 264
Location: Columbus OH USA
Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:58 pm linkquote
Got up the courage to perform the Gonzo notch fix this evening. I also lubricated the bearings since I already had the plastics off.

I plan on dropping the scooter off at Iron Pony so they can check the torque settings...

Update -- got scooter back from Iron Pony. They charged me just under $30 to set the torque on the retension nuts, thighten the handlebars, and fix an intermittant turn signal

Last edited by Buckeye Marksman on Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:52 pm; edited 2 times in total
Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:11 pm

Hooked
MP3 500cc
Joined: 02 Apr 2012
Posts: 145
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
 
Hooked
MP3 500cc
Joined: 02 Apr 2012
Posts: 145
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:11 pm linkquote
Thanks everyone for sharing the information and experiences!

Any ideas on how long the Gonzo Tweak is effective? I guess sooner or later there will be a new "post-Gonzo" notch...

Also, once the notch reoccurres, would it help redoing the Gonzo Tweak (or something like a "half-Gonzo" to avoid the existing notches) or is it time to replace the bearings?
Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:43 pm

Hooked
Fuoco 500ie - 2007, Benelli Adiva 150 - 2003
Joined: 08 Jan 2013
Posts: 399
Location: North West London,UK
 
Hooked
Fuoco 500ie - 2007, Benelli Adiva 150 - 2003
Joined: 08 Jan 2013
Posts: 399
Location: North West London,UK
Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:43 pm linkquote
The tweak lasted about 8 months on rough London roads for me.

You could try to re-tweak, but you'd be running out of fresh bearing facing I think after once decent tweak..
Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:04 am

Member
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
Posts: 26

 
Member
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
Posts: 26

Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:04 am linkquote
You will not believe it but the bearing is ok...
I had a flat tyre. I was so sure it's the bearing so i didn't check the tires


I'm ashamed
Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:48 am

Hooked
MP3 500
Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Posts: 264
Location: Columbus OH USA
 
Hooked
MP3 500
Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Posts: 264
Location: Columbus OH USA
Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:48 am linkquote
roksan wrote:
You will not believe it but the bearing is ok...
I had a flat tyre. I was so sure it's the bearing so i didn't check the tires


I'm ashamed
Well, a tire should be easier to fix.
Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:07 pm

Hooked
MP3 500cc
Joined: 02 Apr 2012
Posts: 145
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
 
Hooked
MP3 500cc
Joined: 02 Apr 2012
Posts: 145
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:07 pm linkquote
desq wrote:
The tweak lasted about 8 months on rough London roads for me.

You could try to re-tweak, but you'd be running out of fresh bearing facing I think after once decent tweak..
Thanks desq, so if I understand correctly, you had to replace the bearings on your bike when the notch appeared for the second time?
Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:40 pm

Hooked
Fuoco 500ie - 2007, Benelli Adiva 150 - 2003
Joined: 08 Jan 2013
Posts: 399
Location: North West London,UK
 
Hooked
Fuoco 500ie - 2007, Benelli Adiva 150 - 2003
Joined: 08 Jan 2013
Posts: 399
Location: North West London,UK
Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:40 pm linkquote
Yes, I replaced the bearings.

When I replaced the bearings. I found that the original ones had hardly any lubrication. Since I bought the bike second hand there was not much I could have do everything to prevent that. But I think regular lubrication should help prolong the life of the new bearings.
Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:09 pm

Hooked
Fuoco 500ie - 2007, Benelli Adiva 150 - 2003
Joined: 08 Jan 2013
Posts: 399
Location: North West London,UK
 
Hooked
Fuoco 500ie - 2007, Benelli Adiva 150 - 2003
Joined: 08 Jan 2013
Posts: 399
Location: North West London,UK
Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:09 pm linkquote
Read my post in this topic, along with the related links and you'll find a lot of info..

Which steering bearing tools will I need?
Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:23 pm

Hooked
MP3 500cc
Joined: 02 Apr 2012
Posts: 145
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
 
Hooked
MP3 500cc
Joined: 02 Apr 2012
Posts: 145
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:23 pm linkquote
Great, thanks desq - I'll spend an hour or two now going through all the info and save it on the hard drive as well. I'm at 32000 km with a 2012 MP3 and expect to encounter the notch sooner or later as I ride on pretty rough roads. I re-grease the bearings every second year, hopefully this will keep the bike notch-free for some more time but I want to be prepared for the job as I'm pretty sure I'll have to do it in the future.
Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:50 pm

Hooked
2019 MP3 500hpe Sport
Joined: 03 Nov 2014
Posts: 478
Location: Germany
 
Hooked
2019 MP3 500hpe Sport
Joined: 03 Nov 2014
Posts: 478
Location: Germany
Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:50 pm linkquote
I usually grease mine between services. The dealer does their thing and at 5000km I apply grease again. I have adjusted my bearings and the notch is still there but it is ever so slight at slow speed. Normal riding it is fine.
  DoubleGood Vespa T-Shirts  

All Content Copyright 2005-2021 by Modern Vespa. All Rights Reserved.

Modern Vespa is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com.

Shop on Amazon Smile with Modern Vespa

[ Time: 0.0264s ][ Queries: 5 (0.0070s) ][ Debug on ][ 209 ][ Thing One ]