Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:13 am

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:13 am linkquote
Has anyone tried these? Before someone claims crap Chinese product, many of the items for sale in the big scooter shops can be bought directly from their Chinese manufacturers. Most of the time I buy through the shops, but I have gone direct if I think the mark up is obscene.

I don't know if this was made specifically for a shop, or its a clone of someone like BGM.

Anyone recognize it?

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/...-nut-oring-and-inflating-valve
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:31 am

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:31 am linkquote
Link doesn't work unfortunately
Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:11 am

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76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella
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Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:11 am linkquote
I'm guessing it's these.

If so, I don't think I'd take the risk versus just buying BGM, SIP, or FA-Italia.

Now if it was a split rim at that price, I'd probably consider it, because the Pinasco's are kind've a rip-off, it feels like, with inconsistent quality and relatively poor fit.
Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:39 am

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:39 am linkquote
I see those on wish.com and they are 30 bucks. Normally I am game for something like this, having bought wish.com's version of the ram cell phone mount for $15 and getting a near exact copy that works great, but something about saving only like 20-30 bucks on unknown rims seemed too dangerous to me. They were different enough looking where I felt they weren't the factory that makes these original branded parts just selling them illegally without branding. I waited until I could afford the SIP ones as I don't want to trust the unknown brand has actually been tested and would pass regulation tests for that type of item. In this case, a life is worth more than 60 bucks savings for the set!

But if someone has tried them out and ridden hard streets with them for some time, I'd love to hear their feedback!
Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:09 am

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:09 am linkquote
swiss1939 wrote:
In this case, a life is worth more than 60 bucks savings for the set!

But if someone has tried them out and ridden hard streets with them for some time, I'd love to hear their feedback!
Ditto!

But along similar lines, has anyone had any experience with these non-branded (or at least non-Pinasco) tubeless split rims that I ran across on ScooterMercato during the course of tracking down the OP's link?
Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:06 am

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:06 am linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
I'm guessing it's these.

If so, I don't think I'd take the risk versus just buying BGM, SIP, or FA-Italia.

+1 on not worth the risk.
Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:44 am

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1974 Rally 200, 1974 Rally 200 with sidecar, Vespacross bike
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Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:44 am linkquote
The Scooter Mercato ones are FA Italia.
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:58 am

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:58 am linkquote
Mattgyver wrote:
The Scooter Mercato ones are FA Italia.
Oh, cool. I didn't realize they made a split tubeless rim.
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:59 am

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:59 am linkquote
I really dont know what the hell i am wearing but it strong enough and its split rims, for normally i use patamora alu rims but for a 36 yo rims it sure does need rebalancing


Have a nice weekend and cheer guys
Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:07 am

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:07 am linkquote
I literally just bought sip tubeless rims two days ago, received them from Germany the next day (didn't pay for overnight shipping) and put them on yesterday! I can say they are very well balanced rims. To the point i think they designed them to be balanced with their valves installed. Noticeable comfort increase and smoothness at Max speed 58-60 mph on highway!

I wouldn't believe it was a noticeable improvement until i tried it myself. My vote is the sip tubeless are well worth it compared to unknown Alibaba.
Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:51 pm

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:51 pm linkquote
were yours from SIP?
Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:59 pm

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:59 pm linkquote
spielawieler wrote:
were yours from SIP?
If you mean me... Yes. Sip rims ordered and delivered to nyc in a day. Riding on them the day after.
Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:42 pm

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:42 pm linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
Now if it was a split rim at that price, I'd probably consider it, because the Pinasco's are kind've a rip-off, it feels like, with inconsistent quality and relatively poor fit.
Genuinely surprised at this. Mine are a massive improvement on standard and are top quality and fit. I realise this is hardly in depth research but it's the first time I've heard anyone say anything negative (other than price) about them.
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:13 pm

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:13 pm linkquote
swiss1939 wrote:
But if someone has tried them out and ridden hard streets with them for some time, I'd love to hear their feedback!
Why don't you be the guinea pig? If you're back to tell us, then that's great. If you're not back, well then, you're not back.
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:16 pm

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:16 pm linkquote
nomadinsiam wrote:
swiss1939 wrote:
But if someone has tried them out and ridden hard streets with them for some time, I'd love to hear their feedback!
Why don't you be the guinea pig? If you're back to tell us, then that's great. If you're not back, well then, you're not back.
Ha!
Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:12 pm

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Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:12 pm linkquote
Yes these rims are on Wish.com as well. I've got SIP ALU rims on a vespa and lambretta. Very good quality.

I'm more just curious about these Chinese rims. They are either a knock-off or the factory selling direct while also supplying who every commissioned them in the first place.

On Wish in the comments section more than one person said one of the rims arrived warped. That's the thing about Wish, zero quality control. It's a flea market for stuff wholesales from a factory.
Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:49 pm

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Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:49 pm linkquote
Cheap rims
Hi all, I bought a pair on ebay for $100. I absolutely destroyed the paint fitting the tires, left some gauges but nothing broke, and i really thought they were going to during that fight or the spoons even. I got some front end bearings coming in monday, then I'll be back to riding, as your guinea pig.
I will say I did not like the look of the threads in the nuts that came with the kit. Wish me luck please.
Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:49 pm

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Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:49 pm linkquote
This thread gives me the heebie jeebies, Brakes and wheels just seem like things you dont want to skimp out on as they are your 2 life lines. Things that make you go arent too too bad to cheap on besides melting your motor. But anything that can cause a lock up, rim break, or unable to stop is just asking for trouble
Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:17 pm

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Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:17 pm linkquote
These rims should be outlawed. Hit a pothole at about 35, front end damage, not sure how bad, tending to my hands now, palms are scraped up pretty ugly. Will post a follow up in a few days.
Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:52 pm

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Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:52 pm linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
I'm guessing it's these.

If so, I don't think I'd take the risk versus just buying BGM, SIP, or FA-Italia.

Now if it was a split rim at that price, I'd probably consider it, because the Pinasco's are kind've a rip-off, it feels like, with inconsistent quality and relatively poor fit.
I'm really happy with the Pinascos. Find them well made. Yeah not cheap but split rim, tubeless, light weight and no peeling paint or rust. What's not to like?
Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:16 pm

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Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:16 pm linkquote
At this point, I have three of the Pinasco split rims. The first set, the paint or powdercoat scratched easily, the bolts for holding the halves together were really too short, and then the lug holes oval'ed out and I had to replace it.

The new one had some improvements in the overall design, but the inner diameter of the rim was too tight, so it has to be hammer-fitted onto the hub.

I love the idea of them, and couldn't have been totally dissatisfied or I wouldn't have purchased a third one when I needed to replace it, but I think I'll try the FA Italia's next time I'm ordering rims.
Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:30 pm

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Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:30 pm linkquote
Yeah they're a bit thicker than standard rims so studs end up being a few mm short. I found that a bit unnerving but it hasn't been an issue. I have au natural aluminum so no paint probs for me.
Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:37 pm

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Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:37 pm linkquote
I bought a set of 3 Pinasco's and 1 of them seems to go flat relatively quickly. It's the spare so I haven't really mucked with it to try and get it to hold air, but still. Take that info as you will. Otherwise, I'm fine with them. They have performed fine thus far.
Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:24 am

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Sat May 18, 2019 9:16 am

Molto Verboso
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Sat May 18, 2019 9:16 am linkquote
Bumping this thread. I'm real keen on going tubeless on Sweet P (my P2) Just had a blowout on the Big Ruckus going 75. Top speed went down to 65 and I didn't even know I had a flat until I got off the interstate. Absolute zero drama, unlike the blowout I had on the P. Damned near shit my pants on that one. Question about the split tubeless Scooter Mercato ones. Anyone with any time on them ? Does that O ring need replacement after every tire change ? Not even considering the Indian eBay or the Wish ones.
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