I've been eyeing this since that guy destroyed my tires.
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I've been eyeing this since that guy destroyed my tires.
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swiss1939 wrote: I've been eyeing this since that guy destroyed my tires. https://www.nomartirechanger.com/tc-ch100hd.html Wider 10's are fine Personally, I just use good spoons and rim protectors. Much like a hot Saturday night. Lube, pressure, angle of attack and a soft touch. |
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greasy125 wrote: swiss1939 wrote: I've been eyeing this since that guy destroyed my tires. https://www.nomartirechanger.com/tc-ch100hd.html Wider 10's are fine Personally, I just use good spoons and rim protectors. Much like a hot Saturday night. Lube, pressure, angle of attack and a soft touch. |
swiss1939 wrote: greasy125 wrote: swiss1939 wrote: I've been eyeing this since that guy destroyed my tires. https://www.nomartirechanger.com/tc-ch100hd.html Wider 10's are fine Personally, I just use good spoons and rim protectors. Much like a hot Saturday night. Lube, pressure, angle of attack and a soft touch. |
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Well, no tutorial on this. It's just a two men job. One's working the machine and the other one pushes the tire bead in the small channel on the rim. Small steps at a time. The 2.10s are a pain in the ass. The 2.50s are easier. One thing that is crucial is that we spent the extra 180EUR for the "special" motorcycle mount / unmount head, when we bought the tire changer 10+ years ago. The one that comes with the machine is destined for cars and if used, it will f@ck up any motorcycle / scooter tire. Other extras are the plastic protections on the head and on the clamps (red arrows). I also use painter's tape on the rim, extra rugs on the clamps along with the plastic protections and lots of tire paste. Photos following, size comparison between the heads and a "nerve wrecking" mounting on freshly painted rims we did last year...
@Greasy: I actually found the Pirellis to be harder than any Michelins I worked with. Heidenaus were the worst though... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Safis, u use a machine so that must help along with second person.
Like i said I'm considering the no Mar changer, or a used coats 220 tire changer off cl, but agreed they can't be used without the hard plastic grips instead of the standard metal clamps.. Whodats, thanks for tips, yeah this guy did bead damage to brand new heidenau tires, both the ones he removed and three ones he replaced them with. And the rims even though brand new look like they are 15 yrs old heavy usage after one swap of rubber with that guy! |
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swiss1939 wrote: Safis, u use a machine so that must help along with second person. Like i said I'm considering the no Mar changer, or a used coats 220 tire changer off cl, but agreed they can't be used without the hard plastic grips instead of the standard metal clamps.. Whodats, thanks for tips, yeah this guy did bead damage to brand new heidenau tires, both the ones he removed and three ones he replaced them with. And the rims even though brand new look like they are 15 yrs old heavy usage after one swap of rubber with that guy! https://www.cyclegear.com/accessories/stockton-aluminum-off-road-tire-combo-lever-set?sku_id=1124055 And i will say that mounting any tire on a SIP rim is child's play compared to mounting a knobby tire and bib mousse combo onto a dirt bike rim with double rim locks. |
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whodatschrome wrote: swiss1939 wrote: Safis, u use a machine so that must help along with second person. Like i said I'm considering the no Mar changer, or a used coats 220 tire changer off cl, but agreed they can't be used without the hard plastic grips instead of the standard metal clamps.. Whodats, thanks for tips, yeah this guy did bead damage to brand new heidenau tires, both the ones he removed and three ones he replaced them with. And the rims even though brand new look like they are 15 yrs old heavy usage after one swap of rubber with that guy! https://www.cyclegear.com/accessories/stockton-aluminum-off-road-tire-combo-lever-set?sku_id=1124055 And i will say that mounting any tire on a SIP rim is child's play compared to mounting a knobby tire and bib mousse combo onto a dirt bike rim with double rim locks. https://www.cyclegear.com/accessories/motion-pro-t6-tire-levers?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvaLBnIWw8AIVCo3ICh1fyQLcEAQYBCABEgK1sPD_BwE |
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Still working out of attaching it, then work on the engine as no way my strada engine (23 tooths clutch) with a gigantic rims will be manage to carry the weight, next on plan is building a strada engine with a sprint veloce gearing at the moment, so wish me luck and cheer
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Christopher_55934 wrote: whodatschrome wrote: swiss1939 wrote: Safis, u use a machine so that must help along with second person. Like i said I'm considering the no Mar changer, or a used coats 220 tire changer off cl, but agreed they can't be used without the hard plastic grips instead of the standard metal clamps.. Whodats, thanks for tips, yeah this guy did bead damage to brand new heidenau tires, both the ones he removed and three ones he replaced them with. And the rims even though brand new look like they are 15 yrs old heavy usage after one swap of rubber with that guy! https://www.cyclegear.com/accessories/stockton-aluminum-off-road-tire-combo-lever-set?sku_id=1124055 And i will say that mounting any tire on a SIP rim is child's play compared to mounting a knobby tire and bib mousse combo onto a dirt bike rim with double rim locks. https://www.cyclegear.com/accessories/motion-pro-t6-tire-levers?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvaLBnIWw8AIVCo3ICh1fyQLcEAQYBCABEgK1sPD_BwE |
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Rim Protectors and Mojo Blocks
These look interesting, when working by hand.
https://www.cyclegear.com/accessories/motion-pro-rimshield-ii I'm getting a Harbor Freight version, of a tire changer. Last time I had to get a tire off a split rim I got annoyed and had a workout. Bead refused to let go. The built in bead breaker would have been great. Going to try Mojo bars and blocks to protect the rims. https://www.mojotiretools.com/mojoweb.htm Mojo blocks https://www.mojotiretools.com/mojoblocks.htm |
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Any reason why no one is using SIP or FA Italia split rims? The 2 piece jawns?
I added lock washers and nylock nuts just to be safe with mine but the tire install took all of 5 mins with only one curse word... Unless you're into S&Ming your wheels? I dunno what you dudes/dudettes do in your own time! |
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FridayMatinee wrote: Any reason why no one is using SIP or FA Italia split rims? The 2 piece jawns? Do you have links for SIP of FA Italia's versions? |
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chandlerman wrote: I thought that only Pinasco was doing the tubeless split rims. They're good (I have a couple sets), but pricy and heavier than the non-split versions if you're into weight shaving. Also, can only run 3.5x10 on them. Do you have links for SIP of FA Italia's versions? http://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Rims/5581 They didn't seem much heavier than the original 8" rims honestly. I didn't weigh them though. Coulda sworn SIP made them too but I can't find them now. I may have fever dreamed that? |
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FridayMatinee wrote: Any reason why no one is using SIP or FA Italia split rims? The 2 piece jawns? I added lock washers and nylock nuts just to be safe with mine but the tire install took all of 5 mins with only one curse word... Unless you're into S&Ming your wheels? I dunno what you dudes/dudettes do in your own time! |
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Christopher_55934 wrote: I can't seem to find a wider split rim in tubeless, going with a 2.50 x 11 tubeless. Supposed to fit with no modifications. I want the wider tubeless as I've been told they feel more planted or stable at 60 mph. If I had it to do over, I'd go with 110's, but I'm certainly not feeling any need to switch them out before they're worn out. |
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swiss1939 wrote: I've been eyeing this since that guy destroyed my tires. https://www.nomartirechanger.com/tc-ch100hd.html ![]() |
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What about the Pinasco split tubless rims and save all the hassle? Anybody here using? Seems like a well made setup, a good review can be found here : https://scooterlab.uk/pinasco-tubeless-vespa-wheel-rims-fitted-testedreview/
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V oodoo wrote: What about the Pinasco split tubless rims and save all the hassle? Anybody here using? Seems like a well made setup, a good review can be found here : https://scooterlab.uk/pinasco-tubeless-vespa-wheel-rims-fitted-testedreview/ I should try them on my small frame. |
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oopsclunkthud wrote: I have a set of Pinasco sitting on the shelf unused. the studs on the rally are not long enough to mount them, or any of the other aluminum rims. I should try them on my small frame. Last edited by Christopher_55934 on Sat May 15, 2021 10:51 am; edited 1 time in total |
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A friend brought me this PX200 today, saved from the junkyard. He was going to keep it, but since it's a no e-start motor, he passed it on to me. For only 200EUR it was a no-brainer. Although engine is frozen, I don't believe it's going to be terrible inside. Whatever the outcome, 200EUR don't buy you new engine cases plus I get a complete front end. I'm going to strip it tomorrow and report...
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SaFiS wrote: A friend brought me this PX200 today, saved from the junkyard. He was going to keep it, but since it's a no e-start motor, he passed it on to me. For only 200EUR it was a no-brainer. Although engine is frozen, I don't believe it's going to be terrible inside. Whatever the outcome, 200EUR don't buy you new engine cases plus I get a complete front end. I'm going to strip it tomorrow and report... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Re: Rim Protectors and Mojo Blocks
Christopher_55934 wrote: These look interesting, when working by hand. https://www.cyclegear.com/accessories/motion-pro-rimshield-ii I'm getting a Harbor Freight version, of a tire changer. Last time I had to get a tire off a split rim I got annoyed and had a workout. Bead refused to let go. The built in bead breaker would have been great. Going to try Mojo bars and blocks to protect the rims. https://www.mojotiretools.com/mojoweb.htm Mojo blocks https://www.mojotiretools.com/mojoblocks.htm |
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Split the salvaged motor today. That thing run hot as hell before the big end bearing seized. First time I've seen a discolored piston and a melted seal (flywheel side). Good news on the rest. Looks like I am the first one in (except clutch side, boy someone was cheap with the reused nut) since it still has the "Rolf" seals Piaggio used ages ago. Cases are in great shape, no seized studs, rotary has only surface rub markings (no scuffs), no cracks on primary, I get a complete crossover, MK1 EFL tranny (outside seal) and a good stator. Flywheel is LML branded and not suitable for a 200 since it has the straight fins (less air volume). Everything going on the shelve for now. Frame is rotten as hell and since I have no papers I can't really make a use out of it (we can't reissue a license here). The legshield though is in pretty good shape, so I'm thinking in making me a Vespa office chair...
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Had a new one happen. Had a cylinder mailed to me via USPS and noticed the box was pretty beat up. Went to run the piston through it and it got hung up. Took a closer look and noticed the skirt was dented in. Anyone care to guess how high it was dropped to dent the skirt?
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