Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:10 pm

Molto Verboso
Red Mp 3 500
Joined: 08 Dec 2007
Posts: 1519
Location: Norman, Oklahoma. USA
 
Molto Verboso
Red Mp 3 500
Joined: 08 Dec 2007
Posts: 1519
Location: Norman, Oklahoma. USA
Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:10 pm linkquote
have they improved any from 2009. or still a lot of problems
Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:24 pm

Hooked
2019 MP3 500hpe Sport
Joined: 03 Nov 2014
Posts: 479
Location: Germany
 
Hooked
2019 MP3 500hpe Sport
Joined: 03 Nov 2014
Posts: 479
Location: Germany
Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:24 pm linkquote
I am happy with my 2019 500HPE. So far everything is good to go and appreciate the increase in power over my old 400 that was totaled because some idiot rear ended me. So far mine is pretty much stock other than a tire upgrade I did because I am not 100% happy with the CityGrip tires. Running Contiscoots in the front and Bridgestone Battlax in the rear. My tire shop told me the Contiscoot for the rear tire was on backorder and would have had to wait around 4 weeks to get it and need a back tire ASAP. Might do a muffler just to have a bit deeper sounds and that .5hp increase in power I know that Hillbilly Fred got an advanced with the reverse option. I would like to change up the mirrors and maybe had some additional lighting for the front, although I need to figure out mounting to add. So far no issues with steering bearings either. I bit stiffer ride since I got the sport but nothing overly harsh compared to the 400. I like the design a bit better too.

Just my 2 cents.
Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:24 am

Member
Joined: 14 Feb 2021
Posts: 35
Location: Atlanta
 
Member
Joined: 14 Feb 2021
Posts: 35
Location: Atlanta
Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:24 am linkquote
I purchased a 2020 MP3 500 HPE Sport last February and I have to say I am pleased with my purchased. I don’t have experience with earlier models so I’m no help there. The MP3 is smooth at highway speeds and have no issue using as a regional tourer. I have a top case attached and have ridden with up to 92 mph with no issues. Rides well in the mountain twisties as well. I thought I would be replacing the seat as I felt uncomfortable after an hour in the saddle but soon found out that as I rode past that hour it became less of an issue. I don’t plan to change out now. I bought a 2 year factory extended warranty since these things are more complex than your average scoot that gives me 4 years of coverage- after that I’ll look to swap out with the next model iteration. The traction control (ASR) is aggressive and you may choose to shut off on sunny days on known roads. Overall I’m satisfied. I’m also monitoring the Honda NC750 DCT- looks like a solid competitor to the MP3.
Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:20 pm

Member
2016 Piaggio MP3 500ie
Joined: 17 Mar 2021
Posts: 22
Location: San Francisco
 
Member
2016 Piaggio MP3 500ie
Joined: 17 Mar 2021
Posts: 22
Location: San Francisco
Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:20 pm linkquote
I used to have the 2009 250ie. It developed the dreaded notch problem. Other than that I believed it was a nice scooter, that is until I bought a 2016 500ie sport.

Best way I can describe it is driving a Porsche compared to a Volkswagen. I don’t get pushed around on the 500cc no matter how windy it is unlike the 250. It also handles much better over rough roads and getting to 60+ mph is simple.

ABS/Traction control are a huge upgrade for safety. You can use Econ mode with a simple press of the starter button.

I’d never drive an older model after owning a newer version.The drive belt replacement every 6k is a bummer but it’s not too bad if you just do it yourself.
Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:05 am

Hooked
Piaggio MP3 ie 400
Joined: 01 Jul 2017
Posts: 159
Location: Sydney
 
Hooked
Piaggio MP3 ie 400
Joined: 01 Jul 2017
Posts: 159
Location: Sydney
Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:05 am linkquote
sanogeo1 wrote:
have they improved any from 2009. or still a lot of problems
I have the MP3 400ie, 2009 model, I bought it second hand, it is great machine, I love it, but if I knew about it what I know now, I would not buy it. Nothing wrong as a machine, and I am not complaining about the steering bearing maintenance and its cost. I bought it as I thought it would be a lot safer to ride during raining, but it turned out that there is not much difference from a 2 wheeler, therefore that is my opinion. They are heavy machines comparing to similar specs of a 2 wheeler. I also found out it is expensive to ride it in the rain (if falling off, to get it fixed - painting or replacing the fairings), the benefit I found is that you can put the tilt lock if parking for couple of hours, but the other maxi scooters have the side stand, so that is not an issue. I can recommend it to a person if that person has some issues in pushing or handling the scooter, then the tilt lock will be handy and helpful in such situations where a person needs to push it. The only three negatives I can say about them: fewer mechanics can deal or fix them (I'm in Australia, and reading here show the same issue in other areas), also, the cost and timing to get parts that are not changed on regular basis. They are heavy scooters comparing to ones with same specs.
Good luck.
Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:26 am

Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 366
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
 
Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 366
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:26 am linkquote
Nope. Mp3 400/500 is lighter than Scarabeo 500 or Silverwing 600 and also is more nimble and precise in handling/steering. I own 2012 mp3 400 and 2003 Scarabeo 500, and I can't say I prefer one or another, I like both.

And mp3 IS much safer and inspiring confidence. One just should not ride under heavy rain as they stole it. Also I don't worry about tram rails or other slippery surfaces on the road, when I ride mp3. So it worth its third wheel and heavy front.
Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:02 am

Hooked
Piaggio MP3 ie 400
Joined: 01 Jul 2017
Posts: 159
Location: Sydney
 
Hooked
Piaggio MP3 ie 400
Joined: 01 Jul 2017
Posts: 159
Location: Sydney
Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:02 am linkquote
Jah wrote:
Nope. Mp3 400/500 is lighter than Scarabeo 500 or Silverwing 600 and also is more nimble and precise in handling/steering. I own 2012 mp3 400 and 2003 Scarabeo 500, and I can't say I prefer one or another, I like both.

And mp3 IS much safer and inspiring confidence. One just should not ride under heavy rain as they stole it. Also I don't worry about tram rails or other slippery surfaces on the road, when I ride mp3. So it worth its third wheel and heavy front.
That is an opinion as I mentioned in my comment it was my opinion. We don't have the Scarabeo 500 or Silverwing 600 in Australia, so I don't know, but even with that comments you mentioned, I think the two key points of unavailability of spare parts and lack of mechanics to work on them are sound valid points to discourage a person who does not know the scooter. I am not against the MP3s but these are the facts.
Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:09 am

Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 366
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
 
Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 366
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:09 am linkquote
Well, I live in Russia. We don't have any parts for any maxiscooters, but in fact there's no any problem in that. Most things that can be required to keep the scooter alive are ball bearings, oil seals and filters. Those are available anywhere. And most jobs can be done by any person who is able to tighten a thread on water pipe in one's garden. There's nothing in all those scooters that can be performed only by a highly qualified workers.


BTW if you don't have neither Silverwings, nor Scarabeos, what do you compare mp3 to? What do you consider to be a similar spec 2-wheeler?
Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:42 pm

Addicted
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 572
Location: Belgium
 
Addicted
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 572
Location: Belgium
Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:42 pm linkquote
Scarabeo is tiny niche brand, under the Aprilia division of Piaggio, and is only used in very few markets. It's a lingering brand dying of a slow death. I think they're down to 1 or 2 models nowadays, likely rebadged Chinese little 50cc jobbies.

A better and far more common comparison to the MP3 500 from a few generations back would be the Yamaha T-Max 500 along with the Peugeot Satelis 500 which ironically used Piaggio Master 500 engines.

The T-Max is exactly as advertised on the tin and everything the Piaggio isn't. Rock solid build quality, Japanese dependability, fantastic suspension. A bit slow off the line, but absolutely destroys the Piaggio above 50 km/h. I've had my friend's T-Max 500 just above 170km/h and simply pulls like a train. The major downside, very little storage, even most modular helmets will not fit without a top box. Maintenance is a bit more involved in some aspects, such as battery replacement which requires removal of the front nose.

The Peugeot is essentially a quirky French bike with a Italian heart. However, it wins big points by having much better brakes and being able to stretch your feet forward vs. the toilet seat position on the MP3.





Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:12 pm

Hooked
Piaggio MP3 ie 400
Joined: 01 Jul 2017
Posts: 159
Location: Sydney
 
Hooked
Piaggio MP3 ie 400
Joined: 01 Jul 2017
Posts: 159
Location: Sydney
Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:12 pm linkquote
Jah wrote:
Well, I live in Russia. We don't have any parts for any maxiscooters, but in fact there's no any problem in that. Most things that can be required to keep the scooter alive are ball bearings, oil seals and filters. Those are available anywhere. And most jobs can be done by any person who is able to tighten a thread on water pipe in one's garden. There's nothing in all those scooters that can be performed only by a highly qualified workers.


BTW if you don't have neither Silverwings, nor Scarabeos, what do you compare mp3 to? What do you consider to be a similar spec 2-wheeler?
In Australia, the most popular brands are: Yamaha, Suzuki, Peugeot, SYM, Honda, BMW and others like those, of the maxi scooters (above 300cc):Yamaha, SYM, Honda and BMW... I may missed one or two....
I am not claiming that I rode all the above, but comparison is when I am start from a traffic light and there is other maxi scooter next to me, I see it take off faster, as it is a lighter,,, don't get me wrong, I love my MP3, but I am just giving an honest opinion. Some aspects of the scooter can be done by any mechanic but other aspects need to be by the dealer.
Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:50 pm

Addicted
'07 GTS250ie "Mechanical Squirrel", '66 Honda Benly, '19 Suzuki 250 cafe "Mouse", '77 Jawa 350TS, '42 Henschel PzKw VI Tiger
Joined: 01 Jul 2011
Posts: 765
Location: somewhere deep in the back of the garage...Burlington ONT.
 
Addicted
'07 GTS250ie "Mechanical Squirrel", '66 Honda Benly, '19 Suzuki 250 cafe "Mouse", '77 Jawa 350TS, '42 Henschel PzKw VI Tiger
Joined: 01 Jul 2011
Posts: 765
Location: somewhere deep in the back of the garage...Burlington ONT.
Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:50 pm linkquote
My MP3 500 was the most expensive bike I’ve ever run. I do my old maintenance so we are just talking parts prices here. Regular service parts, tire and brake pads are about all it consumed, but they are expensive and required at a pretty short frequencies.

My Enfield 350 was just as reliable and cost me less in parts over 75000 km than the MP3 did for one major service which included a rear tire.


Lovely bike on the highway two up or around town but I wouldn’t do it again.
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:16 pm

Florida Man
MP3 500 HPE Sport Advanced
Joined: 15 Sep 2021
Posts: 30
Location: Homestead, Florida
 
Florida Man
MP3 500 HPE Sport Advanced
Joined: 15 Sep 2021
Posts: 30
Location: Homestead, Florida
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:16 pm linkquote
new200guy wrote:
I am happy with my 2019 500HPE.
Awesome to hear, I myself am currently making the deal to purchase a 2021 MP3 500, and I hope I do enjoy it as much as everyone else says they have... I have had several 2-wheelers up to 1000cc and have LOVED everyone of them. But now, at my age, I can not trust my ankles and knees to support a bike at Stop signs and such.
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:20 pm

Florida Man
MP3 500 HPE Sport Advanced
Joined: 15 Sep 2021
Posts: 30
Location: Homestead, Florida
 
Florida Man
MP3 500 HPE Sport Advanced
Joined: 15 Sep 2021
Posts: 30
Location: Homestead, Florida
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:20 pm linkquote
AvbIz wrote:
I purchased a 2020 MP3 500 HPE Sport last February and I have to say I am pleased with my purchased.
Awesome, I am NOW looking to buy a 2021 MP3 500 HPE and hope I enjoy it as much as everyone else says they do !!!
Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:13 pm

Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: 06 Oct 2020
Posts: 242
Location: Reno
 
Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: 06 Oct 2020
Posts: 242
Location: Reno
Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:13 pm linkquote
The apparent weight is lower holding it up at a light than a Big Burgman or a k1100lt
I can do crazy short Uturns, the wheelbase is short
I'm noticing that at low speeds the disconnection between leaning & turning
Feels easy to balance with any bit of throttle & forward motion

Suspension is adequate, the back being combined with the motor is a bunch of unsprung weight, all down low, not bad just different

The motor is adequate, about what you would expect from a 500 single dragging around #500+ & #250 of me
Paint shaker down low, smooth at highway speeds

MP3 is still heavier than my aircooled 150 liberty which is in every way slightly easier to ride, other than highway speeds over 60
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