Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:04 am

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Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:04 am linkquote
You would think that having owned 3 MP3s, I would know the answer to this and I probably would have when I was 60. But now, my memory is failing. When you check the oil level, do you screw in the dipstick or just set it on top of the filler hose?

Thanks!

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Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:07 am

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Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:07 am linkquote
4 steps.

1) Bike must be on solid level ground

2) Bike must be on its centre stand (not supporting itself only with tilt lock)

3) Engine must be fully warmed up, and a couple of minutes allowed for oil to return to sump

4) Unscrew stick, wipe clean, reinsert/fully screw back in, take reading
Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:17 pm

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Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:17 pm linkquote
Thank you, sir!
Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:04 pm

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Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:04 pm linkquote
sbaert wrote:
3) Engine must be fully warmed up
2 questions:

1) Where did you read that?
2) For what?
Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:57 am

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Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:57 am linkquote
As a auto mechanic, you always want to check with oil hot to allow oil to get to all vital places and to allow gasoline or other substances to burn off
Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:26 am

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Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:26 am linkquote
sbaert wrote:
As a auto mechanic, you always want to check with oil hot to allow oil to get to all vital places and to allow gasoline or other substances to burn off
Being an auto mechanic doesn't mean anything in relation to the correct answer.

Piaggio clearly states that you should check it cold, or if it was hot wait at least 10 minutes to obtain an accurate reading.

Now, some car manufacturers do make dipsticks that take into account checking oil levels when hot but unfortunately Piaggio isn't one of them.
Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:33 pm

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2008 fuoco
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Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:33 pm linkquote
sbaert wrote:
4 steps.



4) Unscrew stick, wipe clean, reinsert/fully screw back in, take reading
My 2008 fuoco instruction book says dipstick sitting on top of filler hole it's even illustrated.
Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:24 pm

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Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:24 pm linkquote
The Piaggio Owner's Manual say check it cold, on a center stand, and check it before riding by unscrewing the dipstick and reading it. That, to me, means it is being checked screwed in. My Honda scooters are the opposite, checked by unscrewing, wiping, dipping but not screwing in. I like that more because it's not so tedious, but with my Piaggio I screw it in.
Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:18 pm

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Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:18 pm linkquote
wentwest wrote:
The Piaggio Owner's Manual say check it cold, on a center stand, and check it before riding by unscrewing the dipstick and reading it. That, to me, means it is being checked screwed in. My Honda scooters are the opposite, checked by unscrewing, wiping, dipping but not screwing in. I like that more because it's not so tedious, but with my Piaggio I screw it in.
so after you check the oil and you like the level, now just do the same as your honda and dip it in and not screw it all the way in . NOTE that level and from now on just dip it in and you can tell if its low.
Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:01 am

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Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:01 am linkquote
and don't put it on the centrestand you will over fill then
Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:13 am

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Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:13 am linkquote
Checked my Silverado's dipstick when I got home after paying my Chevy dealer for an oil change.
I called the service desk back, "Why is my oil level showing 1 and 1/2 inches above the full mark?!"
Service Desk: " you run the engine, shut it off and within 15 seconds check the dipstick. Wait any longer it will drain back and show incorrect level."

When I stopped laughing and shooting coffee out my nose - I looked at the service receipt.
They put 6 Qts in a 4 Qt engine.

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Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:41 am

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Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:41 am linkquote
3legsofman wrote:
My 2008 fuoco instruction book says dipstick sitting on top of filler hole it's even illustrated.
From the workshop manual, maintenance section, page 10:



Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:29 am

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Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:29 am linkquote
thats from a bev or other 2 wheeled scooter directly copy past

the mp3/fuoco engine is sitting level on the lock and not if its on the centre stand then its leaning backwards so you will overfill then
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:49 am

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Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:49 am linkquote
Maksor wrote:
thats from a bev or other 2 wheeled scooter directly copy past

the mp3/fuoco engine is sitting level on the lock and not if its on the centre stand then its leaning backwards so you will overfill then
Came from this (the vehicle in the picture looks a lot like my MP3 500; perhaps I'm assuming too much....):



Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:11 am

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2008 fuoco
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Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:11 am linkquote
There seems to be alot of confusion about how to check the engine oil, dipstick screwed in or sitting on top ? Quote from my 2008 fuoco riders handbook = check should be made on engine oil level when the engine is cold ( after completely unscrewing the oilcap/dipstick).
Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:38 am

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Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:38 am linkquote
its copy past out of the older atlantic, Bev, X9 (2 wheeled) owners manual

The mp3 engine is sitting almost level when its on the lock and the rearwheel is tilting down on the centrestand so if you check on a new mp3 on the centrestand it will show low oil from factory

Most of the 2 wheel versions also use the upper engine mounts and sitting level on the centrestand , and thats also why you cant use a older twinspark Bev engine on a mp3 they dont have the lower mounting rings for the swingarm
Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:41 am

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Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:41 am linkquote
ADDITION. On a level surface on the centre stand (remember this is for 2008 fuoco.)
3legsofman wrote:
There seems to be alot of confusion about how to check the engine oil, dipstick screwed in or sitting on top ? Quote from my 2008 fuoco riders handbook = check should be made on engine oil level when the engine is cold ( after completely unscrewing the oilcap/dipstick).
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