Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:59 am

Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:59 am linkquote
Hi All
I've got a white px125 who's original paint seems to be black(chips in the white lead me to that conclusion)
I can remove the white paint with thinners and fine wire wool without damaging/removing the paint underneath but is the an easier way to achieve the same result, as breathing in the thinners (outdoors) is not condusive to good health, and means I can only work in short bursts
Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:06 am

Hooked
'58 VBA '79CT90
Joined: 25 Dec 2019
Posts: 131
Location: Chico CA
 
Hooked
'58 VBA '79CT90
Joined: 25 Dec 2019
Posts: 131
Location: Chico CA
Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:06 am linkquote
Buy a respirator. Get busy
Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:23 am

Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 2929
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 2929
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:23 am linkquote
andyx wrote:
Hi All
I've got a white px125 who's original paint seems to be black(chips in the white lead me to that conclusion)
I can remove the white paint with thinners and fine wire wool without damaging/removing the paint underneath but is the an easier way to achieve the same result, as breathing in the thinners (outdoors) is not condusive to good health, and means I can only work in short bursts
Fan works wonders, I like a box fan to blow some cool air and the smell away.
Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:25 am

Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:25 am linkquote
Lol Sorry probably didnt make myself clear, I was just wondering if i could use a paint remover that will lift the cellulose but not damage the original paint
Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:36 am

Hooked
'61 Cushman GS150, '62 GS160, '74 Rally 200
Joined: 20 Sep 2017
Posts: 113
Location: Seattle, WA
 
Hooked
'61 Cushman GS150, '62 GS160, '74 Rally 200
Joined: 20 Sep 2017
Posts: 113
Location: Seattle, WA
Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:36 am linkquote
Is the white paint from a spray can? If so, Gumout carb cleaner and 0000 steel wool. Not sure if that's really better than paint thinner fumes-wise, but that's what I used on my GS.
Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:50 am

Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:50 am linkquote
[quote="SEA"]
Is the white paint from a spray can? If so, Gumout carb cleaner and 0000 steel wool. Not sure if that's really better than paint thinner fumes-wise, but that's what I used on my GS.




Its cellulose alright, You maybe right about the fumes from the gumout, Ive got some carb cleaner in the shed, I'll give it a go later.
Obviously will have to experiment this end, just want to narrow down the choice of paint removers as much as I can with help from the forum.
Will post up results for the benefit of all.
Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:47 am

Addicted
Joined: 29 Nov 2020
Posts: 971
Location: Los Angeles
 
Addicted
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Location: Los Angeles
Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:47 am linkquote
Acetone, a 2 gallon bucket, long chemical-resistant gloves, #0000 steel wool and a dozen microfiber towels, patience and time.

Carb cleaner is mainly acetone and toluene(a degreaser). You only need a gallon of acetone -- avoids aerosolizing those two nasties.

Outdoors, place a fan so that you have a breathing zone. With a little breath control you can avoid hours wearing a respirator.

Most of the rattle-can will come off with the towel and patience.
If you pour acetone on steel wool it'll just run right through it onto the ground.

BTW I uze acetone oftan at wurk an Ime fine!
Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:49 am

Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:49 am linkquote
Thanks for that Ray, and Ill take your word that you havent been affected Although it does say 'addicted ' under you nom de plume.
Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:50 pm

Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1021
Location: northern New York
 
Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1021
Location: northern New York
Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:50 pm linkquote
I used paint stripper and oven cleaner on my vbb. It doesn't touch the factory paint. I start with acetone though.
Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:08 am

Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:08 am linkquote
orwell84 wrote:
I used paint stripper and oven cleaner on my vbb. It doesn't touch the factory paint. I start with acetone though.
Thanks for that info, never considered oven cleaner, can you rememember which paint stripper?
Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:45 pm

Addicted
Joined: 29 Nov 2020
Posts: 971
Location: Los Angeles
 
Addicted
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Posts: 971
Location: Los Angeles
Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:45 pm linkquote
andyx wrote:
Thanks for that info, never considered oven cleaner, can you rememember which paint stripper?
Use acetone with a fan or you will be even more frustrated than you will end up being regardless.
Acetone has the specific characteristics needed to remove rattle-can from original paint. Lacquer thinner *maybe* a next option. It doesn't evaporate as fast, and can etch the original paint.

Tried EVERYTHING else, including citrus graffiti remover

Oven cleaner is great for removing grease and dirt. Does nothing in regards to removing paint, though.

Have fun!
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:12 am

Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:12 am linkquote
Ray8 wrote:
Use acetone with a fan or you will be even more frustrated than you will end up being regardless.
Acetone has the specific characteristics needed to remove rattle-can from original paint. Lacquer thinner *maybe* a next option. It doesn't evaporate as fast, and can etch the original paint.

Tried EVERYTHING else, including citrus graffiti remover

Oven cleaner is great for removing grease and dirt. Does nothing in regards to removing paint, though.

Have fun!
Lol Thanks for that,I take it the 'have fun' comment is ironic, paint stripping is akin to watching paint dry, Gonna do a little at a time to stop me going mad!!!
Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:46 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6234
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6234
Location: Nashville
Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:46 am linkquote
andyx wrote:
Lol Thanks for that,I take it the 'have fun' comment is ironic, paint stripping is akin to watching paint dry, Gonna do a little at a time to stop me going mad!!!
Between stripping paint and watching it dry, I'll take watching it dry every time!

Try some of the cheap auto parts store degreaser, too. That cut into the hi-temp paint I put on my cylinder pretty good over the weekend, and I didn't even want it to. Supposedly safe for painted surfaces, by which I now assume they meant two-part paints, so might be just the thing.

And don't underestimate how TOUGH that OG paint is. Having now stripped two scooters to bare metal, I can tell you it doesn't come off without a fight, so you're probably good.
Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:11 am

Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 107
Location: Essex, GB
Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:11 am linkquote
Thanks for that CM, I've got some of that hanging around in the shed so I'll give it a go.
Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:04 pm

Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 1022
Location: Philadelphia
 
Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 1022
Location: Philadelphia
Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:04 pm linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
Between stripping paint and watching it dry, I'll take watching it dry every time!

Try some of the cheap auto parts store degreaser, too. That cut into the hi-temp paint I put on my cylinder pretty good over the weekend, and I didn't even want it to. Supposedly safe for painted surfaces, by which I now assume they meant two-part paints, so might be just the thing.

And don't underestimate how TOUGH that OG paint is. Having now stripped two scooters to bare metal, I can tell you it doesn't come off without a fight, so you're probably good.
Were they p series? I'd assume after 1977 paints aren't quite as tough as the lead paint of the 40's-70's.
Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:09 pm

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6234
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6234
Location: Nashville
Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:09 pm linkquote
FridayMatinee wrote:
Were they p series? I'd assume after 1977 paints aren't quite as tough as the lead paint of the 40's-70's.
No, both 1962. VBB and GL.
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