Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:53 am

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Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:53 am linkquote
Hi all
I have arthritis in both wrists and the px levers do sit at awkward angles, so 2 questions.
Firstly can i change the angle of the shift grip simply by adjusting the cables i.e so 1st is where neutral is and prorata so that the clutch lever id 'flatter' in 1st or is there another way?
And secondly is there a way to move the disc brakes lever 'down' without major surgery?
( I'm finding my fingers keep catching on the underside of the lever when I go to use the front brake)
Only idea I've come up with so far is a plate to drop it lower relative to the handlebar.
Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:00 pm

Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
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Location: Veria, Greece
 
Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 3336
Location: Veria, Greece
Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:00 pm linkquote
Never liked the way the brake master cylinder sits that's why I always convert a drum handlebar to disc by welding a plate at an angle. SIP does a brake master cylinder that has the lever at an angle so it's a direct fit without modifying your handlebars. As for the gear side, yes you can play with the cables…

Aluminum…
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/brake-master-cylinder-sip-disc-brake-front-right_56370000

Black…
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/brake-master-cylinder-sip-disc-brake-front-right_56371000
Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:17 pm

Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:17 pm linkquote
[quote="SaFiS"]
Never liked the way the brake master cylinder sits that's why I always convert a drum handlebar to disc by welding a plate at an angle. SIP does a brake master cylinder that has the lever at an angle so it's a direct fit without modifying your handlebars. As for the gear side, yes you can play with the cables…

Aluminum…
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/brake-master-cylinder-sip-disc-brake-front-right_56370000

Black…
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/brake-master-cylinder-sip-disc-brake-front-right_56371000
[/quote

Thank you Safis will have a play with the cables in the morning.
Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:15 pm

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Location: Planet Earth
 
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Location: Planet Earth
Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:15 pm linkquote
andyx wrote:
Hi all
I have arthritis in both wrists and the px levers do sit at awkward angles, so 2 questions.
Firstly can i change the angle of the shift grip simply by adjusting the cables i.e so 1st is where neutral is and prorata so that the clutch lever id 'flatter' in 1st or is there another way?
And secondly is there a way to move the disc brakes lever 'down' without major surgery?
( I'm finding my fingers keep catching on the underside of the lever when I go to use the front brake)
Only idea I've come up with so far is a plate to drop it lower relative to the handlebar.
A big advantage to you is that you have a cosa clutch in your scoot as standard . You wouldn't cope with earlier clutches and when I get rsi from too much computer work my pk xl clutch which has a reinforced heavy duty spring in it can make me whelp with pain after a 10 mile run out.
Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:19 pm

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px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
px 125 disc
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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:19 pm linkquote
ferriswolf wrote:
A big advantage to you is that you have a cosa clutch in your scoot as standard . You wouldn't cope with earlier clutches and when I get rsi from too much computer work my pk xl clutch which has a reinforced heavy duty spring in it can make me whelp with pain after a 10 mile run out.
Agree it is light, its just the angle my wrist is at when plonking it into 1st is painfull, oh the joys of growing old disgracefully
Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:12 pm

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Location: Los Angeles
 
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:12 pm linkquote
andyx wrote:
Agree it is light, its just the angle my wrist is at when plonking it into 1st is painfull, oh the joys of growing old disgracefully
You could:
Disconnect the cables at the shifter box.
Tape the lever to 2nd at the headset.
Adjust cables with the batwing in neutral.

1st gear now lines up with the neutral mark, etc.
Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:18 pm

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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
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Location: Essex, GB
Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:18 pm linkquote
Ray8 wrote:
You could:
Disconnect the cables at the shifter box.
Tape the lever to 2nd at the headset.
Adjust cables with the batwing in neutral.

1st gear now lines up with the neutral mark, etc.
Thanks Ray, Thats the next job as soon as I've sorted the jammed front brake and the battery not charging, should keep me out of mischief lol
Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:43 pm

Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
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Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
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Location: Philadelphia
Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:43 pm linkquote
Just skip first!

May have to upgrade your top end for that though…
I have a similar issue where first just plain sucks to use so I just stopped using it and start from 2nd instead. My first gear is pretty useless already though.
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:32 pm

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px 125 disc
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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:32 pm linkquote
FridayMatinee wrote:
Just skip first!

May have to upgrade your top end for that though…
I have a similar issue where first just plain sucks to use so I just stopped using it and start from 2nd instead. My first gear is pretty useless already though.
Could you clarify that Friday Matinee? What do you mean by upgrade?
Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:49 am

Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 1214
Location: Philadelphia
 
Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
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Posts: 1214
Location: Philadelphia
Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:49 am linkquote
andyx wrote:
Could you clarify that Friday Matinee? What do you mean by upgrade?
177cc. More power so first gear is obsolete more or less is what I meant. Sorry I should have clarified
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:05 am

Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
px 125 disc
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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:05 am linkquote
andyx wrote:
{
Never liked the way the brake master cylinder sits that's why I always convert a drum handlebar to disc by welding a plate at an angle. SIP does a brake master cylinder that has the lever at an angle so it's a direct fit without modifying your handlebars. As for the gear side, yes you can play with the cables…

Aluminum…
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/brake-master-cylinder-sip-disc-brake-front-right_56370000

Black…
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/brake-master-cylinder-sip-disc-brake-front-right_56371000
[/quote

Thank you Safis will have a play with the cables in the morning.
wow thats a bit of a premium 100 quid over standard for 20 deg drop, but in the absence of anything else looks like the bank balance is going to take a hit.
Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:03 pm

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px 125 disc
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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:03 pm linkquote
FridayMatinee wrote:
177cc. More power so first gear is obsolete more or less is what I meant. Sorry I should have clarified
Not a problem, have just adjusted the cables second is now neutral etc.
I've just got to remember that, may have to remark the handle bar to suit as a reminder.
Thanks to all for your help, just the front brake lever to sort now
Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:05 pm

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px 125 disc
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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:05 pm linkquote
andyx wrote:
Not a problem, but I need all 4 gears for pulling the side car that will be attached in the future.
I have just adjusted the cables second is now neutral etc.
I've just got to remember that, may have to remark the handle bar to suit as a reminder.
Thanks to all for your help, just the front brake lever to sort now
Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:52 am

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px 125 disc
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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:52 am linkquote
Adjusted the gear change this morning so that 'second 'is now neutralgiving me a 'flatter' clutch lever when in 1st.
Took it for a ride, its so much more comfortable very gldd I've done it.
Thanks for all the advice. from you lovely lot, its appeciated.
Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:56 am

Hooked
px 125 disc
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:56 am linkquote
Just to summarise how I did it. (Ray 8 you nailed it)
Slackened off both gear cables completely.
put the bar lever in '2nd', taped gear change in place.
Clamped cables back into position, using adjusters to fine tune.
Job Done.
Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:08 am

Molto Verboso
1979 P200E (sold) / ZNEN Amore 150 (sold) / Genuine Buddy 170i / Genuine Stella 4T /Aprilia Sportcity One 50
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Molto Verboso
1979 P200E (sold) / ZNEN Amore 150 (sold) / Genuine Buddy 170i / Genuine Stella 4T /Aprilia Sportcity One 50
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Posts: 1632
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:08 am linkquote
For audit purposes you should put a "FOR REFERENCE ONLY" sticker on the shifter.

Sorry, just the metrologist in me acting out.
Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:19 am

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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
 
Hooked
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Posts: 127
Location: Essex, GB
Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:19 am linkquote
seamus26 wrote:
For audit purposes you should put a "FOR REFERENCE ONLY" sticker on the shifter.

Sorry, just the metrologist in me acting out.
the way I look at it, if someone trys to ride it a way, it'll confuse the hell out of them
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