Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:23 am

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Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:23 am linkquote
I have been reading recent posts and folks talking about tire pressure recommendations from different sources, i.e., service techs at dealers, etc. Generally higher than the posted pressures on back of the seat pan for just the rider.

I think it says 26.1 psi for the front and 33.4 for the rear. I have been rounding up to 27 and 34. This is for rider only, that being my wife who comes in at let's say 135 (she would kill me if she read this post). She does not ride at all in town, only curvy highway miles at speeds between 45-70 (depending on road condition, etc.). Took the pressures to the max posted when the bike was loaded down for a recent 4 day road trip.

Just curious what the public out here thinks? I feel that proper tire pressure helps with tire life. She has a new set of Michelin City Grips on the scooter.

Thanks.

Mark

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Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:47 am

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Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:47 am linkquote
30 psi front, 36 psi rear. I weigh about 250 lbs. and keep the rear shocks at the max. setting. Seldom carry a passenger. No complaints about handling, braking, suspension comfort, fuel economy, or tire life.
Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:05 am

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Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:05 am linkquote
28 front, 36-38 rear. Susan doesn't ride these days so I wonder if my outstanding tire wear is a result of the higher pressure... right now I'm around 10,000 on my City Grip rear and it's *almost* time to change it out.
Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:07 pm

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Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:07 pm linkquote
28 front and 42 on the rear...though the rear is a car tire so a little different thing there.
Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:36 pm

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Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:36 pm linkquote
1.8 bar front/ 2.4 bar rear. That's ~27/36 psi. Just my personal preference.
Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:03 pm

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Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:03 pm linkquote
Thanks gentlemen. I think I will go to 28 front and 35 or 36 rear for the wife as rider. And put the tires to the max as posted when it is loaded down with touring gear.

Mark
Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:57 am

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Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:57 am linkquote
31 psi I front. 39 rear. 6'4" 305 lbs.
Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:49 am

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Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:49 am linkquote
It was recommended that I go for 32psi front and 34psi on the rear by my local dealer. I have been running that for 2 years now with no side affects. I changed the rear at 10000 klms (6200 miles) and the fronts are still fine at 12000+ klms (7500 miles) No handling problems either.
Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:28 pm

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:28 pm linkquote
I recently put on new tires. My mechanic said to keep 40 psi rear and 30 psi fronts.

Because these tires are different than the OEM tires that came with the scoot.
Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:47 pm

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:47 pm linkquote
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:30 pm linkquote
I keep my tires a few pounds short of the "rider and passenger" suggestion under the seat, since I'm a pretty big fella. Seems to work well.

Also impressed with how well the tires hold pressure. In the months before it was down for three months and out of my hands, I never had to top them up again, they always measured right where I had set them.
Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:00 pm

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Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:00 pm linkquote
Can somebody please tell me what I am missing (other than my mind) with regard to tire pressure?

I like the tires firm so I am using 44 PSI Rear and 36 PSI Front.
The plate on my MP3 500 shows 40.6 PSI Rear and 33.4 PSI Front.
Why is everybody else quoting so much less?

When I had the pressure just slightly below the values on the plate, I felt like the handling got less precise.

Thanks!
-Paul



Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:40 pm

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Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:40 pm linkquote
Forget what others are using.
Your sole guide on recommended tyre pressure - is what the tyres say around the rim.

Don't get bogged by this!
Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:14 am

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:14 am linkquote
fuocoman wrote:
Forget what others are using.
Your sole guide on recommended tyre pressure - is what the tyres say around the rim.

Don't get bogged by this!
Hip Hip I agree!
The bike & riders weight combination, tires make and rating, riders riding style, environmental conditions such as asphalt make, concete, dirt combination and ambient temperature & weather. It is a grap bag, just burn a few tires and knowledge will follow.
Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:10 am

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:10 am linkquote
But some of the most knowledgeable and helpful people on this site are suggesting to use what I think is less than the recommended tire pressure so I am thinking I must have something wrong.
Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:44 am

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:44 am linkquote
pasone wrote:
But some of the most knowledgeable and helpful people on this site are suggesting to use what I think is less than the recommended tire pressure so I am thinking I must have something wrong.
That plate with the tyre pressures on it is for MAXIMUM LOAD - not normal everyday use.

Much as the 'Max pressure' on the sidewall is for MAXIMUM LOAD. Sorry for shouting, but please read each pressure 'instruction' in context.

The user manual and workshop manual have it right.
Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:46 am

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:46 am linkquote
fuocoman wrote:
Forget what others are using.
Your sole guide on recommended tyre pressure - is what the tyres say around the rim.

Don't get bogged by this!
Utter, utter bollocks. Read the tyre sidewall more carefully...
Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:16 am

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:16 am linkquote
Jim,
I agree totally with your last two posts. The sticker on the underside of the seat clearly spells out rider only pressures and rider and passenger pressures. I know people twik those numbers a little, but to just fill the tire to the max pressure on the sidewall is not a good approach.
Most m/c I have owned give two sets of pressure numbers similar to Piaggio. Although my current bike, a 2007 BMW K1200GT, does not differentiate between rider only vs. rider and passenger. I generally run 2 lbs. more in the front to fight cupping on the front tires I use.
With all that said, that was why I posted the original question - minor twiks to the recommended number due to member knowledge to the tires they use or just slight handling or ride adjustments.
Thanks for your knowledgable comments on this forum. You helped me with my HID headlight wiring question 2 months ago.

Mark
Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:34 am

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:34 am linkquote
pasone wrote:
But some of the most knowledgeable and helpful people on this site are suggesting to use what I think is less than the recommended tire pressure so I am thinking I must have something wrong.
I do exactly what you do. The way I see it......is that Piaggio makes their preference known so I do what they "tell" me. So far....everything they have "told" me works well.......per name plate and manual. I do however check my tire pressure every 10 days or so with my psiclops tire gauge (suggested by someone on this website). I do this wtihout fail. Everything that Piaggio has "told" me to do or what they have "told" me to correct via their warranty/or extended warranty works. They have corrected everything and it works. I follow Piaggio all the way. My machine runs well.
Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:48 am

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:48 am linkquote
TJC wrote:
I do however check my tire pressure every 10 days or so with my psiclops tire gauge (suggested by someone on this website).
I bought mine after reading a BubbaJon review.
Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:02 am

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:02 am linkquote
I just checked my stock tires and they say MAX 42PSI rear and 36PSI front COLD.

Searching the web there is no perfectly clear definition of what COLD means. Most say cold is the pressure before ridding but this does not make perfect sense to me because ambient temperature could be between say 32F and 100F. There is also mention of a 1-2PSI change with 10 degree delta.

So the bottom line is, I may be running the rear above maximum, my ambient temperature is 70+ degrees. I may go down a little to 42PSI.
Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:15 am

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:15 am linkquote
pasone wrote:
I just checked my stock tires and they say MAX 42PSI rear and 36PSI front COLD.
They will also be stating MAXIMUM LOAD for that pressure - you'll be nowhere near that maximum load.

How many times, sheesh.
Quote:
Searching the web there is no perfectly clear definition of what COLD means. Most say cold is the pressure before ridding but this does not make perfect sense to me because ambient temperature could be between say 32F and 100F. There is also mention of a 1-2PSI change with 10 degree delta.

So the bottom line is, I may be running the rear above maximum, my ambient temperature is 70+ degrees. I may go down a little to 42PSI.
As long as the air inside the tyre is at ambient temperature (i.e. COLD, not HOT after being used for miles) then the actual ambient temperature makes fuck-all difference to the pressure *differential*, which is what we measure.

42psi is still way too high. Way, way too high.
Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:35 am

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:35 am linkquote
Well said. People need to check the manual for the total weight the scooter is designed to carry. Usually 500-600 lbs. That includes, rider, passenger and any gear.

Again, if it is just you on the scooter, do not use the maximum numbers shown anywhere.

Lift the seat up and read.
Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:47 am

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:47 am linkquote
heinlein wrote:
TJC wrote:
I do however check my tire pressure every 10 days or so with my psiclops tire gauge (suggested by someone on this website).
I bought mine after reading a BubbaJon review.
Great.....BubbaJon was right on. These Psiclops are great. I also think that "old as dirt?" talked about them a few years ago. I use them on my cars and this tire gauge is fantastic!!!!
Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:58 am

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:58 am linkquote
m-johnson wrote:
Well said. People need to check the manual for the total weight the scooter is designed to carry. Usually 500-600 lbs. That includes, rider, passenger and any gear.

Again, if it is just you on the scooter, do not use the maximum numbers shown anywhere.

Lift the seat up and read.
Good point and I agree with JimC, etc...... however my wife gets on once in awhile and then doesn't. I just keep my tires at the max for her occasional surprises. So far my tires are doing well. Being practical, I just can't keep adjusting everytime she jumps on. The max works well for me and the wear and handling is great. I out corner about everyone. I feel very good about what Piaggio shows me and I believe they are also being pratical to the high end. To each his own. My machine just runs and runs.........and my tires are great.
Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:16 pm

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:16 pm linkquote
[/quote]
They will also be stating MAXIMUM LOAD for that pressure - you'll be nowhere near that maximum load.

How many times, sheesh.
Quote:
Searching the web there is no perfectly clear definition of what COLD means. Most say cold is the pressure before ridding but this does not make perfect sense to me because ambient temperature could be between say 32F and 100F. There is also mention of a 1-2PSI change with 10 degree delta.

So the bottom line is, I may be running the rear above maximum, my ambient temperature is 70+ degrees. I may go down a little to 42PSI.
As long as the air inside the tyre is at ambient temperature (i.e. COLD, not HOT after being used for miles) then the actual ambient temperature makes fuck-all difference to the pressure *differential*, which is what we measure.

42psi is still way too high. Way, way too high.[/quote]

Tell me what is wrong with running the maximum recommended pressure (by that I am saying 33.4PSI front and 40.6PSI rear) even without a passenger? Hopefully there is good reason (safety, tire longevity, something measurable) for comments that seem a bit harsh.
Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:25 pm

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:25 pm linkquote
pasone wrote:
Tell me what is wrong with running the maximum recommended pressure (by that I am saying 33.4PSI front and 40.6PSI rear) even without a passenger? Hopefully there is good reason (safety, tire longevity, something measurable) for comments that seem a bit harsh.
If you are happy with the way your bike rides with maximum pressure by all means keep on with it. Riding with more than the pressure required for the weight will make for a ride that seems a bit harsh though.
Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:46 pm

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:46 pm linkquote
You should do what you think is right. I am not an engineer, but with the tires possibly over inflated for the weight on the bike, might that create a crowning of the middle of the tire and cause it (especially the rear) to wear down in the middle faster?
But again, if the pressures you are using work for you, keep using them.
Good luck and safe riding.
Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:52 pm

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:52 pm linkquote
Keep mine at 26/27 and 32/34 rear. Solo riding.
Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:31 am

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Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:31 am linkquote
heinlein wrote:
TJC wrote:
I do however check my tire pressure every 10 days or so with my psiclops tire gauge (suggested by someone on this website).
I bought mine after reading a BubbaJon review.
I still maintain it's well-built and worth every penny. I even use it on my truck and autos.
Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:36 am

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Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:36 am linkquote
pasone wrote:
Hopefully there is good reason (safety, tire longevity, something measurable) for comments that seem a bit harsh.
#1 & #2
Jim gets impatient with folks that are a little slow on the uptake. Touch a tire after 20 miles and you'll understand hot as it relates to cold... the only time I factor in ambient is after the 1st frost I decrease my psi a couple to compensate for the denser air when cold but even then I'm probably being silly.
Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:54 am

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Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:54 am linkquote
Tire manufactureres only state to measure "cold" at ambient temperature and not change according to the ambient temperature. How hot the tire is when running is relative to the ambient temperature. It will not get as hot internal temperature when it is 32F ambient as when it is 100F ambient so the increaseabove ambient for the tire warming up will be close to the same and thus the same increase in internal pressure.
Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:52 pm

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Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:52 pm linkquote
Even for a guy who is slow on the uptake, I understand the idea of relative pressure increase but I think I did not explain my point well.

I live in an area where the ambient temperature can change (up to) 40F degrees from morning to evening commute. If a 1-2 PSI change occurs with each 10F degree delta, there is a significant change in COLD pressure.
My point was I think there are a number of factors involved with tire pressure and I believe I can tell the difference in how the MP3 handles with a 2-4 PSI change.

We can let this go as what I thought would be an interesting discussion turned in to something else. While I appreciate the knowledge on this site, I don't appreciate the attitude on this topic.
Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:10 pm

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Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:10 pm linkquote
Sorry - I will say that for someone who rides with such extremely high (way over the top) pressures in their tyres, you are possibly not the best judge of detecting a 2-4psi (0.2bar) difference between correct pressure and incorrect pressure.
Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:08 pm

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Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:08 pm linkquote
jimc wrote:
Sorry - I will say that for someone who rides with such extremely high (way over the top) pressures in their tyres, you are possibly not the best judge of detecting a 2-4psi (0.2bar) difference between correct pressure and incorrect pressure.
Impeccable logic; guy likes tires on the higher pressure side, obviously he must not know what different tire pressures feel like.

Was the following hard to understand?
"We can let this go as what I thought would be an interesting discussion turned in to something else. While I appreciate the knowledge on this site, I don't appreciate the attitude on this topic."
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Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:52 am linkquote
Don't take it personal pasone. You will find that we talk to each other like we are a family at times. Sometimes dysfunctional and lively but mostly harmless. I would say that compared to a lot of other forums the people here are more real and seldom hide behind internet anonymity. Part of that is because many of us know each other. The other and probably bigger reason this is a nice place than other forums is the effectiveness of the site owner and moderators to keep is civil. Lively debate yes. Personal attacks and insults no.

Roll with it baby.
Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:46 am

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Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:46 am linkquote
Liking higher pressures is one thing - thinking they ought to be so high because of mis-interpreting a label is quite different. I've no problem with the first (unless you want to do a track-day), I am appalled by the second.
Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:58 am

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Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:58 am linkquote
jimc wrote:
Liking higher pressures is one thing - thinking they ought to be so high because of mis-interpreting a label is quite different. I've no problem with the first (unless you want to do a track-day), I am appalled by the second.
But my first post clearly said: "When I had the pressure just slightly below the values on the plate, I felt like the handling got less precise."

I realize you may not believe I can tell but I again lowered the rear pressure to about 40PSI and when cornering the rear felt more: "squishy", “twitchy”, ”loose”.

I don't claim to be the world’s greatest rider (not even close) but having ridden sport bikes for a decade, I know when the bike feels planted and for me the higher pressure feels better.
Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:03 pm

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Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:03 pm linkquote
Then you should use that pressure.
Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:37 pm

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Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:37 pm linkquote
stickyfrog wrote:
Don't take it personal pasone. You will find that we talk to each other like we are a family at times. Sometimes dysfunctional and lively but mostly harmless. I would say that compared to a lot of other forums the people here are more real and seldom hide behind internet anonymity. Part of that is because many of us know each other. The other and probably bigger reason this is a nice place than other forums is the effectiveness of the site owner and moderators to keep is civil. Lively debate yes. Personal attacks and insults no.

Roll with it baby.
Thanks Stickyfrog, I don't hold a grudge (and was happy have my part of this thread end). I truly appreciate the information and people on this site. At the same time like you said many of you do know each other and possibly there is a bit of a clique feel to this particular forum. I also feel in this case the assumption to my post was: "This guy is a dumb butt" and well I don't think that was accurate or necessary.
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