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in the handle bars back and forth when coming to a stop on their GTS??
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What model?
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I take it you have a GT200? There have been many instances where the GT has a steering wobble while decelrating from 35mph. It have been talked about in depth here on the MV site.

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This is the definitive article on steering wobble.
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On the upside: there is no shimmy @ ~70+ mph, and the <35 is workable.
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hmm, just thinking about this the other day. Do you reckon we should do a poll and see how many of us have this problem, then we could forward our results to Vespa (Italy) and perhaps get an answer?
Anyone up for it?
I have it on my GT 200, noticebly more than when I had stock Sava tyres. Now I got Michelin Pilots.
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gts wobble
When I'm going strait my handle bars are pointed ever sop slightly to the right, once I get them perfectly strait you think that might take some wobble away?
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hmm, just thinking about this the other day. Do you reckon we should do a poll and see how many of us have this problem, then we could forward our results to Vespa (Italy) and perhaps get an answer?
There have been countless polls here already, along with umpteen million threads. We've definitively shown that the problem is widespread. Piaggio doesn't care, though. It's in the design of the GT and GTS. It can be masked, but short of redesigning the front fork, it can't be fixed. My advice is to live with it, since it only occurs under very specific circumstances.
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Re: gts wobble
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When I'm going strait my handle bars are pointed ever sop slightly to the right, once I get them perfectly strait you think that might take some wobble away?
No. I think the two are independent of each other.
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it's oscillation. they all suffer from it. you'll notice it becomes more pronounced it you take your hands off the handlebars
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"Does anyone else experience a slight shimmy?"

.... only when I walk fast in heels.
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paul blknblu wrote:
hmm, just thinking about this the other day. Do you reckon we should do a poll and see how many of us have this problem, then we could forward our results to Vespa (Italy) and perhaps get an answer?
There have been countless polls here already, along with umpteen million threads. We've definitively shown that the problem is widespread. Piaggio doesn't care, though. It's in the design of the GT and GTS. It can be masked, but short of redesigning the front fork, it can't be fixed. My advice is to live with it, since it only occurs under very specific circumstances.
Does this problem occur mainly in the GT/GTS or is it also common to other Vespa models and to other bikes/brands more generally?
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Does this problem occur mainly in the GT/GTS or is it also common to other Vespa models and to other bikes/brands more generally?
GT and GTS. The problem, as far as I know, does not affect the ET or LX.

I'm guessing the GT60 and GTV also suffer from the same problem, but as most of them are still on the stock Sava tires, we haven't heard yet.
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Thanks Jess. I take it that it's not so severe a problem though that people are - generally speaking - any less enthusiastic about their GTS's... ?
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Thanks Jess. I take it that it's not so severe a problem though that people are - generally speaking - any less enthusiastic about their GTS's... ?
I'm not, but then I had the shimmy on my GT prior to my GTS, and for the first six months or so of GTS ownership, I had no wobble due to the stock Savas it came with.

I still wouldn't trade my GTS for anything.
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I still wouldn't trade my GTS for anything.
GTS 380??
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GTS 380??
I don't see the Vespa badge going beyond 250 at this point in time.
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