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Around here, the city's railroad track crossings are brutal affairs that can jar your soul if you cross them at anything more than a walk...sometimes a slow walk at that.

It's bad enough with a motorcycle, but a scooter must present a unique experience and require a bit of technique to span these damn canyons without falling into them, never to be seen again.

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I can't recall it ever being a problem.
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Loosen you grip a bit and ride on. You should ride some of these Italian secondary roads. They make Kentucky cold patch seem like the autobahn.
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I slow down a tad, look for what seems to be the smoothest path, and just go for it.

'cept that one time...

On my Scarabeo 50, I caught quite a bit of air on one railroad crossing. It was on a steep hill, with the crossing being the only part that was anywhere near level. I was headed downhill, and didn't realize that the road didn't stay leveled-out after the crossing. I was also doing near 50. Immediately after the crossing, I lauched off the seat, and screamed as I realized that the only bit of me actually touching the bike was my hands on the grips. Luckily, all was well when I landed. I'm still not exactly sure how it worked out like it did.

About a mile down the road, I decided I wanted to go back and do it again. 8)
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I went across one once, while leading a couple of friends, and it bounced me about a foot off my seat. They both laughed. That was the only time I can remember having an issue.
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90 degree angle of attack helps!
I had kind of assumed a 90 degree approach, or as close as that as possible.

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Obviously, everyone's making it across them on a daily basis, and the obvious response to my question is to just slow down and move across, same as anything else....but does it bug you when cars following behind you don't consider that a PTW sometimes has to slow down a little more than a Humvee might when crossing rough tracks, and they crowd up right behind you as they attempt to hurtle across like they usually do?

Say! that reminds me, how do you like them there steel-grate bridge surfaces?

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I just ride over them........

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Good, same as I do then.

So that mystery is solved.

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There have been times when they cross the road at a pretty serious acute or obtuse angle, and then you have to try to swerve to get as close to a 90 degree crossing as possible. Other than that, I don't think I've ever had a problem with a regular crossing.

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There's a RR crossing on HWY 126 in SoCal that's pushing a 45-degree angle at the road. It's in at least a 60mph zone, and crosses 5 lanes. There's no way in hell you could orient yourself to hit that at a 90-degree angle unless you slowed down enough to cause an accident. I used to ride over it at full speed with no problems. After riding over it the first time and realizing that the crossing was kept in good repair, I barely bothered to notice it anymore.
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A smooth railroad crossing is a wonderful thing.

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My slow commute route has 9 level crossing only one of which crosses the road at a 90 degree angle. The rest cross at 45 degrees. The condition of the crossings varies. Most are OK-ish. Two have good gaps on either side of each rail. The speed limit is 50 km/h in all cases with traffic averaging 60-65 km/h.

As others have said, I just cross them. For the two really bad ones, I put at least one foot on the passenger footpeg and I lift my weight off the saddle while crossing (kind of like posting on a horse). It takes some of the strain off the suspension.

The only time I had the slightest issue was in the rain when the rails are slick and I felt tbe rear wheel slip just a tad. I have to say that did light every neuron up my spine. Luckily that was fhe only consequence. Ever since I redouble caution when it's wet.

I don't otherwise sweat crossings.
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D'oh!

There was construction, and I had to use the left lane, where the Light Rail tracks are located.... I managed to get the front wheel wedged in between the rail and flangeway. I went east, and the scoot went west. ARGH! and I should know better.. I mean really? Rail 50? I'm thinking about changing my name to Rail 51-50... Wha? emoticon
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As others have said, I just cross them. For the two really bad ones, I put at least one foot on the passenger footpeg and I lift my weight off the saddle while crossing (kind of like posting on a horse). It takes some of the strain off the suspension.
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This.

I started on dirtbikes and my instinct now for any rough patches is to plant BOTH feet on the floorboards, firm hold but not too tight on the grips & unweight the seat w/ bent knees. Brake prior if you like, but don't accelerate OR brake during engagement, just ride thru as stated by others.



PS I often ride my little 50S offroad. Sometimes to places you can't go too slow & make it. Poor Vespa. Bring on your RR crossings!
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D'oh!

There was construction, and I had to use the left lane, where the Light Rail tracks are located.... I managed to get the front wheel wedged in between the rail and flangeway. I went east, and the scoot went west. ARGH! and I should know better.. I mean really? Rail 50? I'm thinking about changing my name to Rail 51-50... Wha? emoticon
Shouldn't that name be "Rail 1 - Rider 0"?

Glad you're still riding!
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Re: So, how do you little-wheel riders deal with RR tracks?
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Around here, the city's railroad track crossings are brutal affairs that can jar your soul if you cross them at anything more than a walk...sometimes a slow walk at that.

It's bad enough with a motorcycle, but a scooter must present a unique experience and require a bit of technique to span these damn canyons without falling into them, never to be seen again.

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On my way to work (back when I had one), I passed a four rail freight train crossing at 30 degrees to the road, twice a day. The speed limit is 40 mph. During winter, and when it rained, I had to make sure I did not need to brake when passing, otherwise no problems at all.

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A smooth railroad crossing is a wonderful thing.

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Maybe sending a letter to the railroad company politely asking they they improve the crossing would put them on notice.

E.g. "Where your tracks cross the 2100 block of Main Street in Anytown, USA, there are large holes on both sides of the rail. These holes cause serious difficulties for me and others when we cross the tracks on a motorcycle."

It worked when I wrote to the DMV about the scooter not triggering the traffic light sensor loop. They fixed it.
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I stand a bit and let the shocks bounce. Even on the Buddy it's hasn't presented too much of an issue.
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Maybe sending a letter to the railroad company politely asking they they improve the crossing would put them on notice.

E.g. "Where your tracks cross the 2100 block of Main Street in Anytown, USA, there are large holes on both sides of the rail. These holes cause serious difficulties for me and others when we cross the tracks on a motorcycle."

It worked when I wrote to the DMV about the scooter not triggering the traffic light sensor loop. They fixed it.
About a year ago, the City tried to get the DM&E railroad to repair it's in-city track crossings after many complaints from motorists. It took a while, but they finally rebuilt the worst of them, but it's an on-going aggravation around here as the crossings seem to deteriorate as fast as they can fix them.
The city's solution to many of them was to install 'Rough Crossing' warning signs.
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I've never seemed to have an issue with them when I had a little wheeled scooter: lighten up the grip, perhaps come a bit off the seat, hit them sqare and move along. Perhaps I didn't know any better, but they never seemed to be an issue...

I've heard lots of comments about little wheels: bad on bumps, no stability, dangerous at speed, wear tires too quickly....

Only the latter one seems to have rung true with me.
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I can't say that either concern has been something I've come across ever on two wheels. I just slow down, take them straight on and carry on.
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Here, the bigger hazard is the motorists who suddenly see the railroad tracks and slam on their brakes. ...Like maybe the tracks have up and moved on them?
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So, in conclusion, I think we can reasonably state that small wheels aren't an issue across railroad tracks. Just another myth that motorcyclists perpetuate amongst themselves to rationalize having spent way too much money on a grossly overweight bike with an engine sized appropriately for a European hatchback.

Silly motorcyclists.

Next small-wheel myth on the agenda: doing 80mph on the freeway on 12" wheels. Who wants to go first? And which motorcyclist actually has big enough balls to attempt such a harrowing feat?
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Only bike I have had issues with are Bicycle road tires.

23mm will go right down the crack, or slide off the steel.
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Mostly it is about the condition of the crossing, less about the angle. There is a crossing in Madison I don't like going over in my Jeep, let alone the MP3. You see WAYYY too much rail through the broken wood beams. They have got some really shitty crossings for one of the highest taxed areas in the state.
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I was being a bit of a troll with this topic.

But I got almost a page worth out of it so far.

When I'm sitting at my boring-ass job all day, I don't need much of an excuse to post silly things. If I was riding a scooter around town, I'd cross railroad tracks about the same way I do with any other machine.
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I was being a bit of a troll with this topic.
Don't fool yourself. You ride ridiculously large, sometimes overpowered motorcycles. You're obviously insecure. Scooters are probably not your cup of tea.
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Just another myth that motorcyclists perpetuate amongst themselves to rationalize having spent way too much money on a grossly overweight bike with an engine sized appropriately for a European hatchback.
You have it bass-ackwards, actually it's a grossly overweight European hatchback with an engine sized appropriately for a proper motorcycle.

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Just another myth that motorcyclists perpetuate amongst themselves to rationalize having spent way too much money on a grossly overweight bike with an engine sized appropriately for a European hatchback.
You have it bass-ackwards, actually it's a grossly overweight European hatchback with an engine sized appropriately for a proper motorcycle.
Ah. Well, that would explain the trunk.
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I was being a bit of a troll with this topic.
Don't fool yourself. You ride ridiculously large, sometimes overpowered motorcycles. You're obviously insecure. Scooters are probably not your cup of tea.
Wow I was thinking troll and he said it for me. Jess you are spot on on so many levels. Scooters aren't for everyone but you can find information about a first service in probably 500 different threads so I gotta ask...

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In Melbourne we have tram tracks. These are on the road and parallel to the direction of travel. Much more difficult to navigate than crossing at 90 degrees!
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I was being a bit of a troll with this topic.
Don't fool yourself. You ride ridiculously large, sometimes overpowered motorcycles. You're obviously insecure. Scooters are probably not your cup of tea.
Overpowered is subjective, what's the hp of your BMW? A bit over 100 I suspect. Many (even on MV) would consider that excessive.

Both my GT750 and ZX14 are about 550 wet, that's far from ridiculously heavy.

Our V-Rod is about 600. Again, not ridiculously heavy, especially for the cruiser class.

The Goldwing is very heavy, but it's a magnificent motorcycle regardless and arguably the best in it's class when considering it's purpose.

The Valkyrie doesn't count anymore, it currently being on the sale block.

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I was being a bit of a troll with this topic.
Don't fool yourself. You ride ridiculously large, sometimes overpowered motorcycles. You're obviously insecure. Scooters are probably not your cup of tea.
But a KLR650 was? as were two 650 Burgmans and a Triumph Bonneville?

I think I'd get along just fine on a 22 hp scooter. Admittedly, I don't want one for my primary transportation, but as a purely recreational pleasure machine, I'd be fine on one.

Even though my small penis is legendary, I'm not insecure in the least. My rather eclectic tastes in PTW's should be proof enough of that. You may single out some of the larger bikes I have and have had, but they represent the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the regular cornucopia of PTW's I've owned.

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Jess you are spot on on so many levels.
Not when he's pidgeonholing me, he isn't. But I can't always tell when he's being serious or facetious, insulting or silly.

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Jess you are spot on on so many levels.
Not when he's pidgeonholing me, he isn't. But I can't always tell when he's being serious or facetious, insulting or silly.

I can.........

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Wow I was thinking troll and he said it for me. Jess you are spot on on so many levels. Scooters aren't for everyone but you can find information about a first service in probably 500 different threads so I gotta ask...
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