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There are definately U model parts on these early allstates so it is entirely feasible that the bent feet stand is original to my allstate. Here are some reference U photos showing a similar stand, albiet a rusted one.
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center stand brackets
here is the under side of my 100. The 101 has the same brackets but has been painted.
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In effort to take anal retentiveness to a whole new level I picked up some NOS two stroke oil for the old girl. Now if I could just buy some NOS AIR for the NOS tires I would be all set..... Laughing emoticon
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My 788.102 came with this center stand that is slightly bent. I think with the amount of times this bike has taken a dump in its 61 years history the center stand is gotten quite wobbly. We are actually awaiting a new to us stand for it from a '52. The one we are getting does not have the bend in the legs. Which leads me to believe they used whatever was laying around to hold the bike up. That is my imagination of what happened in the Piaggio factory.
Not the best picture of me but I was going for the angle of the bike so you can see the bend.
Not the best picture of me but I was going for the angle of the bike so you can see the bend.
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Nuttmeg....great scooter. Thanks for posting the pic. I had a 1952 788-102 that had a similar bent stand. I think they were supposed to be this way?
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I am starting to work on the engine. When I bought this Vespa it had a VAN1M widebody engine in it. From the research I have done this is the correct engine for a 1955/56 Allstate. When I bought this 788-100 it came with some registration reciepts including one from 1963 which lists the VAN1M engine in it at that time. Sometime before 1963 the engine was replaced.

The correct engine for a 1951 - 1954 Allstate should start with a VA32M designation. From the registry I have put together it seems that the 788-100's all had 22xxxxx serial number engines. Starting with the 788-101's they seemed to jump to 25xxxxx serial numbers. Finding a correct 22xxxxx engine is like finding a needle in a hay stack.

This weekend I got lucky. I acquired a couple semi complete VA32M 25xxxx cases over the winter and was planning on building one for this bike. I had given up on finding a 22xxxxx case. Last week I found a 1951 25xxxxx case that was an earlier serial number than the two I had so I bought it off ebay. In speaking with the seller he mentioned he had another old engine sitting in the shed. I was shocked when he read off the serial number and it was a VA32M 22xxxxx engine. The engine I need to make this scooter factory correct. It is in good condition and I plan to start the rebuild in the next month or so. I will be selling the other 3 VA32M engines and the VAN1M if anyone needs them. The VAN1M actually runs good and has been cleaned up and tuned.
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Installed the kickstand this morning. I started to install it with new springs but they turned out to be too difficult to use as they had too much tension. I ended up using the original springs and it went together much easier.
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I spent time this weekend degreasing and disassembling the case. It looks to have never been split, which is a good thing. Many of the used engines I have acquired are bad as people use screwdrivers to pry the cases apart. You should always use a rubber mallet and gently tap at various points around the case. The cylinder from this engine has a crack in the sleeve. I am not sure how to deal with this? Ideally I could find a replacement 125 cylinder for it. I think I have everything I else I need to rebuild it. This will be my first rebuild so we will see how it goes. I bought new seals, bearings and a shift cross from SIP and a new crank and gasket kit from Scooterswest.
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The motor is completely apart and degreased. I dropped it off at the local machine shop to have the cylinder bored and honed and the case and swing arm bead blasted.
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The front fork assembly has been a real headache. When I had the original front hub sandblasted it revealed a massive weld repair. It was clearly not usable. I ended up sourcing what I thought was a correct replacement. I had the replacement painted and was ready to reassemble, when I figured out the Pin bolt that holds it to the fork was larger in diameter than the original. Turns out this front hub was from a 55 or later allstate. I then sourced a correct original replacement from a friend of mine. I was out of paint so I had the paint shop mix a new pint for painting the hub. I went with a less expensive paint and paid the price. I should have checked the color before I sent it to the painter as the color wasn't even close. It was more light gray than light green. Now I have to repaint the hub again before reassembling. These are momentum killers.
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looks good mate, youve gotta enjoy taking the time to get things right, right?
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Yesterday I painted the front wheel hub. I used PPG Concept DCC Single stage paint, reducer and hardner. Rather than send it to a painter I painted it myself with a Preval aerosal sprayer. The paint came out nice and smooth just as if it were shot with a spray gun. The mixing ratio is 2 oz of paint, 1 oz of reducer and .5 oz of hardner. I highly recommend splurging on good quality paint as it makes all the difference in the final finish.
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Today I started reassembling the front hub. I expect to complete the front hub and fork assembly next weekend.
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Very nice work.

Mind if I ask where you sourced your paint supplies?

Thanks.
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The paint and supplies were purchased from Colours, Inc.
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Today I finished assembling the front hub and mounted it to the fork. I also figured out how to run the speedo cable through the fork. It looks like too tight of a curve on the end but it works perfectly. It exits out the top hole in the fork and will connect to the bottom of the speedo which bolts up underneath the headset.
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Looks great. I gotta check the routing on my speedo cable, don't think mine in coming out a hole in the fork like that.
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Pardon the pun, but those pics truly have me green with envy! FANTASTIC work.
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Tonight I installed the fork into the body. The strange thing is that there is no bump stop in the fork to prevent the fork from turning more than 90 degrees right or left, allowing the front fender to hit the body. Is this normal or did I forget to install something? Normally you would have a steering column lock but the 1951 788-100 and 101 Allstates did not have steering column locks. Locks were introduced in 1952.

Next step is to figure out which cables go where and run them through the body. I also have to figure out how to route the wiring for the headlight.
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It's normal for no steering stops.
When the seat is put on that is your handlebar stop. Yeah weird but that's how it was done!
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Thanks Nyle! I took this thing apart a long time ago and often find myself questioning how to put it back together. No matter how diligent you are with bagging parts and taking photos it seems you end up having questions anyway.
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Thanks for sharing your hard work with us.
Amazing restoration and truly an inspiration.
Cheers!
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DiverAsia, thanks for the encouragement. After researching how to run the cables I realized I had to run the Throttle and Clutch cables before I installed the fork. Also, I determined that the headlight wiring loom needed to exit the body out of the same hole as the loom for the light switch. I ended up dropping the fork again to run the cables and change the loom.

The remaining cables are easy as the two clutch cables run through a tube in the body so you don't have to deal with snaking them through and hitting interference with the fork. Next to install is the speedo cable and front brake cable, then the headset and handlebars.
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cable clips
I think those clips are originally green
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KMF...I think you are right. I went through some reference pictures and found this pic of an original paint 54 allstate. I intend to paint the speedo body and will paint these at that same time. Good catch.
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Looking real good.
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Lynnb wrote:
Looking real good.
I agree.. it's an amazing project, and very very well done.
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I found a few minutes today to start the assembly of the handlebars. The Allstates differed from the Italian Faro Basso's in that the early allstates had painted handlebars, just like the U model. The Faro Basso had chrome handlebars.
Installed new rubber grommets which compress around the handlebar to hold it in place and stop it from moving within the headset.
Installed new rubber grommets which compress around the handlebar to hold it in place and stop it from moving within the headset.
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Installed a new headlight/horn switch
Installed a new headlight/horn switch
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Allstate accessory speedometers are incredibly rare. I have only seen one other in a photo and it was trashed. I have never seen one properly mounted so I have been guessing how to correctly run the cable and mount the speedo. These were sold seperately as accessory kits so I ruled out that you had to drill a hole in the legshield or make some other dramatic change to the bike to mount one.

I ran the cable through the fork using the holes where the brake cable runs. The Speedo comes with a mounting bracket that connects to one of the headset bolts. While I was worried that the bends in cable would be too extreme, I was able to find the right amount of slack on both ends for the cable inner to turn freely. I turned the front hub by hand and there is some slight resistance from the cable but it works! It might need some adjustment when I get it on it's wheels.
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You can see how the bracket mounts to the headset bolt.
You can see how the bracket mounts to the headset bolt.
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I am debating painting the body of the speedometer.  It is original paint but the paint didn't adhere to the metal very well.  It doesn't look like primer was used?  The reason I hesitate to paint it is due to the originality and model number that is on i
I am debating painting the body of the speedometer. It is original paint but the paint didn't adhere to the metal very well. It doesn't look like primer was used? The reason I hesitate to paint it is due to the originality and model number that is on i
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Wow, it's really coming along beautifully!

I like the unrestored speedometer, looks very sharp as-is.
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Started work on the engine rebuild. First task was to replace the cruciform as the old one was worn. This is a pretty easy job if you have the right tools. You will need a bearing puller, bearing driver, circlip plyers and a 12 MM wrench.
Place in vice grip for support.  Remove the large and small circlips which hold the bearing carrier on the shaft.
Place in vice grip for support. Remove the large and small circlips which hold the bearing carrier on the shaft.
Used a bearing puller to remove bearing carrier.
Used a bearing puller to remove bearing carrier.
Removed the circlip holding on the top gear.  Beneath this circlip is notched flat washer.  Once removed you lift off the 3 gears.
Removed the circlip holding on the top gear. Beneath this circlip is notched flat washer. Once removed you lift off the 3 gears.
Gears removed.  Ready to take out the cruciform.
Gears removed. Ready to take out the cruciform.
New cruciform, new bearing to be installed
New cruciform, new bearing to be installed
Screws into the cruciform (reverse threads).  The washer gets bent down to hold this in place.
Screws into the cruciform (reverse threads). The washer gets bent down to hold this in place.
Reassembled and ready for installation
Reassembled and ready for installation
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The gears want to be installed after the lay-shaft is installed. That way you can ensure the flat spot of the bearing stop on the lay-shaft is aligned to miss the large gear of the cush-drive. I'll scan a copy of the service manual (#4) that walks you through an engine rebuild and forward to you. I also have an original #2 that shows the service department how to uncrate and assemble it for the first time.
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Thanks Kevin. The scans would be appreciated. I am waiting on some special tools before I take it any farther.
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Hi! what a beautiful job you did on this Allstate!
I own one too, and I would love to see where mine is between yours and the registry. I will send you a private message with the information.

By the way, the speedometer is awesome, I don't know how you got that, but it's amazing!

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Engine reassembly continues. Installed the crankshaft seals, the layshaft and cush gear.
Installed new crankshaft seals
Installed new crankshaft seals
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Step 1: install the inner driveshaft bearing
Step 1: install the inner driveshaft bearing
Step 2: install the bearing retainer ring
Step 2: install the bearing retainer ring
Step 3: Install the cush gear.
Step 3: Install the cush gear.
Step 4: Install the axle guide tube
Step 4: Install the axle guide tube
Step 5: Install the outer bearing
Step 5: Install the outer bearing
Step 5: Install the c clip on top of the outer bearing and then push in the oil seal.   Pull through the cush gear with a Vespa puller tool.  It screws onto the end of the drive shaft and allows you to pull the drive shaft through the 2 bearings
Step 5: Install the c clip on top of the outer bearing and then push in the oil seal. Pull through the cush gear with a Vespa puller tool. It screws onto the end of the drive shaft and allows you to pull the drive shaft through the 2 bearings
There is a notch in the stem of the layshaft that needs to be aligned next to the lower cush gear to ensure there is clearence when you pull it through.
There is a notch in the stem of the layshaft that needs to be aligned next to the lower cush gear to ensure there is clearence when you pull it through.
Step 6: Install the gears on the cush drive
Step 6: Install the gears on the cush drive
All gears installed
All gears installed
Step 7: Install the lay shaft guide tube, bend over the washer to lock it in place and tighten the sh
Step 7: Install the lay shaft guide tube, bend over the washer to lock it in place and tighten the sh
Final Assembly.
Final Assembly.
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
px200 cutdown,px180,px150. Puch SR. Puch scooterette
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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px200 cutdown,px180,px150. Puch SR. Puch scooterette
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nice and clean
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Hooked
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Hooked
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your doing some really great work !!!!
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1948 Salsbury Model 85, 1951 Allstate 788-100, 1951 Allstate 788-101, 1958 VS4, 1957 Allstate
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1948 Salsbury Model 85, 1951 Allstate 788-100, 1951 Allstate 788-101, 1958 VS4, 1957 Allstate
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Installed the bearings on the crankshaft. To install you immerse the bearings in hot gear oil which expands the metal enough to press them on to the crankshaft. Next step is to install the crankshaft/bearing into the case half that contains the cush gear.
New crankshaft ready for bearings
New crankshaft ready for bearings
Support the lobes when you drive on the bearing.
Support the lobes when you drive on the bearing.
Bearings installed
Bearings installed
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1985 T5, 1978 50 Special, 1985 Honda Elite 150, 1965 Honda C100, 2007 Vino 125
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That is a gorgeous beast. Done right, the way it should be!
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1948 Salsbury Model 85, 1951 Allstate 788-100, 1951 Allstate 788-101, 1958 VS4, 1957 Allstate
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Installed the crank in the case half. I ended up taking the new seal and seal carrier out of the case, heating up the bearing race then quickly tapped in the seal carrier and pushed in the crank with attached bearing into the race. Went in like butter.

I am having a hell of a time trying to figure out how to install the kick start barrel? Everything I have read says you install it on the bearing retainer ring and then pull the spring until the end fits in the groove of the retainer ring. When I do this the gear slips off the teeth of cush gear? Any ideas on how to best do this?
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