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I have a 1960 Allstate and want to replace the switch at the handle bar does anybody have a wiring diagram for replacing an old handle bar switch for a newer one
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I wish it was hat easy I have the original switch and want to add a newer type but I dont know where the lights or horn or kill switch wires go on the newer switch I bought the newer one on the internet with no diagram
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What you should be asking is:
"I want to remove my original switch and install the wrong one in its place. Can anyone help me do this?" |
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fales4 wrote: here is a picture of what i have i hope it helps Try again please. You couldn't find the SAME switch & are optimistic OR you screwed up? |
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you can find the tear drop switch in NOS. SIP sells a reproductions of it, not sure the quality. It came on nearly every VNA bike. it probably came on very early VBA's too.
you can always use a early VNB switch with the toggle on the bottom. |
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maybe im not explaining this right on the new switch that i bought i dont know which one is for the lights which one is for the horn and which one is the kill switch i believe I can figure out the wiring if someone can tell me what button is which
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sorry i dont have a facebook account and the 2 addresses you posted are not available to me but I do appreciate your help
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fales4 wrote: maybe im not explaining this right on the new switch that i bought i dont know which one is for the lights which one is for the horn and which one is the kill switch i believe I can figure out the wiring if someone can tell me what button is which |
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fales4 wrote: here is a picture of what i have i hope it helps |
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does anybody have a repair manual for a 1960 Allstate Scooter or know of a website I want to look at the electrical diagram the bottom of the switches are numbered and that would help
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fales4 wrote: does anybody have a repair manual for a 1960 Allstate Scooter or know of a website I want to look at the electrical diagram the bottom of the switches are numbered and that would help I am done with this all together. Good luck. |
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I realize that BRO so I went and bought the right switch thanks for your help but iI still need a electrical diagram
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fales4 wrote: I realize that BRO so I went and bought the right switch thanks for your help but iI still need a electrical diagram http://scooterlounge.com/vespa_index.shtml Cheers, and good luck with it. |
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fales4 wrote: maybe im not explaining this right on the new switch that i bought i dont know which one is for the lights which one is for the horn and which one is the kill switch i believe I can figure out the wiring if someone can tell me what button is which |
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The issue is that the momentary switch logic for the horn and kill switches is "normal close" on some wiring systems and "normal open" with others.
Nobody wants a horn that's on all the time until you push the button. Sure, you can make anything work, but why not learn the correct way to do things and use the correct parts. By the way, if you bought the switch from a local shop, you'd probably get the right part to begin with and perhaps the guidance about how to install it. Ebay and other such outfits online are not always your friends. You might pay $10 more at a local shop, but the expertise you're tapping into is priceless. |
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Fales,
Did you notice I gave you the elec diagrams at Scooterhelp up near the top as requested, already? Then Vader's & HERE'S MORE. All you need, so now you're good. Lose the attitude, we're trying to help. UNDERSTAND you don't like what you hear, want us to lie? Lynnb wrote: fales4 wrote: maybe im not explaining this right on the new switch that i bought i dont know which one is for the lights which one is for the horn and which one is the kill switch i believe I can figure out the wiring if someone can tell me what button is which Just know that Vespa OFTEN does it rather different. WAY different. Read up on WHY there are TWO brake switches, one NC & the other NO. WTF, right? 'Load balanced system' is a phrase meaning electrical shennanigans & merriment for many previously rational, happy scooter electricians. Italian innovation. That said, I'm sure with enough trial & error, you might puzzle something out that works. I mean just find some current and switch it on & off to the thing you want to work, right? Wrong. Maybe. Whatever. I got generous typing fingers tonite, so good luck. |
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Fales,
You say you have the right switch now. Voodoo pointed you towards the right direction above. Seems like you still need help finding the right wiring diagram. I hope this helps you out. First, Look at your serial numbers. All the info on locating them can be found here: http://scooterhelp.com/serial/serial.numbers.html Then go to this link below to find the wiring diagram you need. http://scooterhelp.com/electrics/60.elec.html No experience with Allstates, but the wiring looks fairly simple. |
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astromags wrote: Why doesn't someone just post a link to the wiring diagram!!!!! |
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Bar Italia Classics wrote: The issue is that the momentary switch logic for the horn and kill switches is "normal close" on some wiring systems and "normal open" with others. Nobody wants a horn that's on all the time until you push the button. Sure, you can make anything work, but why not learn the correct way to do things and use the correct parts. By the way, if you bought the switch from a local shop, you'd probably get the right part to begin with and perhaps the guidance about how to install it. Ebay and other such outfits online are not always your friends. You might pay $10 more at a local shop, but the expertise you're tapping into is priceless. |
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ScooterRaton wrote: fales4 wrote: here is a picture of what i have i hope it helps |
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