Tuning P200E Engine Tips
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Rally 180
Joined: 06 Feb 2020
Posts: 7
Location: Bergen, Norway
Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:19 am quote
Hello! I just bought a Rally 180 with a P200E engine, and I would really love some advice.

The setup i am going for is:

Cyl: Malossi 210
Link: https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/racing+cylinder+malossi+210+cc+_31163460

Exhaust: Sip Road 3.0
Link: https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/racing+exhaust+sip+road+30+_24165900

Fuel sip fast flow 2.0

Standard crank

standard ignition, maybe get SIPs variable ignition at a later point.

Carburettor: It is here that I am uncertain on what i will use. I have the standard SI24 carburettor, which can be modified. I then see two different options:

1: Modifying the original carburettor with:
Float Chamber Cover DELL'ORTO
Link: https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/float+chamber+cover+dellorto_128295t7

Drilling the hole up to 2mm and adjusting jets.

(In this option, will it be a waste to also use a float chamber spacer? Link: https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/spacer+float+chamber+serie_92270000)

2: Buying a 30mm Phbh carburettor kit from SIP
Link: https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/carburettor+kit+malossi+phbh_40110000


So what would you guys recommend? I have done the modification on the SI on a previous vespa, but thought that the Phbh will be time saving as well as being more suited if i were to adjust the port casings/change crank later on.

would appreciate any tips from more seasoned scooterists. really want to do this as right as possible. I want a Vespa that is reliable AND fast

Apologize if this was a messy post

Best regards Lorentz
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Rally 180
Joined: 06 Feb 2020
Posts: 7
Location: Bergen, Norway
Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:35 am quote
Was also looking at spark plugs. another user here said that this was a really nice plug which gave an improvement in performance:
Spark Plug MALOSSI/DENSO IW27

Link: https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/spark+plug+malossidenso+iw27+_m6314455l0

But I see here that this is long threaded. will this work with a malossi 210, and will it be worth the extra cash?
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2015 GTS300, 1974 Primavera, 04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 4605
Location: San Diego, CA
Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:36 am quote
If you donít get that intake timing up by opening the rotary pad and getting a cut crank you wonít need a 30mm carb. But youíll be leaving a lot on the table...
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Rally 180
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Location: Bergen, Norway
Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:41 am quote
Alright. Thanks for the advice! Will post a picture when its done
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79p200e 66smallstate 85pk50xl 84p125ets 63GL
Joined: 24 Nov 2016
Posts: 277
Location: Flatness, TX
Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:14 am quote
Bjelor wrote:
Was also looking at spark plugs. another user here said that this was a really nice plug which gave an improvement in performance:
Spark Plug MALOSSI/DENSO IW27

Link: https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/spark+plug+malossidenso+iw27+_m6314455l0

But I see here that this is long threaded. will this work with a malossi 210, and will it be worth the extra cash?
Quite pricey for one plug. If you want Iridium plug, NGK makes their version at 1/4 the price. I use them and I like them. They make a short thread version also.

Long thread
https://www.ngk.com/product.aspx?zpid=9554

Short thread
https://www.ngk.com/product.aspx?zpid=9563

Hope this helps.
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Rally 180
Joined: 06 Feb 2020
Posts: 7
Location: Bergen, Norway
Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:18 am quote
Ah I see. But what is recommended for Malossi 210? Long or short thread?
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2015 GTS300, 1974 Primavera, 04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 4605
Location: San Diego, CA
Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:31 am quote
the head that comes with malossi 210 is long thread
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Rally 180
Joined: 06 Feb 2020
Posts: 7
Location: Bergen, Norway
Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:49 am quote
Great thanks again for all help guys!
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