Modern Vespa

V201503 is Dr.Pulley's new variator specially for Piaggio 4t 125 to 300 scooters.
This new V201503 can be installed with SR2015 or SR2115 for 125/200 and 250/300 differently.
Here's one video about V201503,HiT211701 in LX150.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEH1RxOXoWs&feature=plcp
Please contact Dr.Pulley's agents for detailed.

And it'll be more cheaper if someone in this forum would like to run a group order.

this is something that i have been hoping for!!! Lets get something happening here!!

I gather that that variator is designed to take sliders rather than rollers. Results should be very interesting.

Mike

Will it be sold with different weights for different scooters, or will the weights be sold separately? 125/150, 200, 250, and 300cc scooters require different weights.

The SR used is suggested in the attachment for reference.

Gday Dr Pulley, how you going?
I just got some sliders for my baby Aprilia from your Australian distributor, good to see you've come a long way since we last did business 6 years ago for my daughters scoot, good stuff Paul.
I'm not sure about it, so might as well ask here.........is the Leader aircooled 125/150 variator the same as the others listed, or are they the liquid-cooled only versions?
Also, can I please be just a bit rude (uhm, sorry! ), may I ask if this variator is similar to the Polini and Malossi, or does it have significantly different ramps, slider ramps or diameters?

Hi MODNROD,

For your reference, the specs (length or slope of ramp ( ie. roller runway ) and ramp plate of V201503 are all different from Malossi''s or Polini's variator.

If 5111397 can fit yours then V201503 will give you a different experience.

By the way,the videos below might be helpful to know more about HiT & SR.

Your distributor in the US has no plan for an immediate order. It would be nice if you answered your PM. Who can this be ordered from? Group order from?

You are welcome to use my email.

Thanks for that! I used the HiT as well many years ago, nice stuff.

I anyone wants a preview of the take-off this variator will give you, just do an experiment with smaller rollers, ie. Polini 20x17 instead of 21x17, and a 1mm fuzzy washer in your standard variator. This will allow the belt to ride deeper, and greatly improve take-off.

But I am not suggesting this as a performance enhancement.

Mike

Any chance of letting us know what the ramp plate angle is?

The main difference in the stock piaggio varistors from the 125 to the 300 is the ramp plate angle.

Any advantage to a varistor that is polished out and 20% beefier?

I'm certainly interested to hear of "real world" feedback with this variator.

Does Dr.Pulley's new V201503 variator use 21x17 slider weights?

I've suspected that Dr Pulley slider weights in the Piaggio variator don't utilize the higher end (high speed) of the variator all that well although I don't have any proof with this point.....just anecdotal seat o' the pants.

I'm very happy with the lower end & mid range performance of Dr Pulley variator slider weights in the oem variator, belt & clutch.
I use oem clutch, & with the Dr Pulley variator slider weights I've got I'm able to launch (clutch bite) at about 4,000 rpm instead of the very awkward oem set-up bite of about 2,000 rpm which made low speed riding very difficult, & lots of clutch shudder.

Hot topic!

"slope of Ramp Plate is 22 degree."

Calling Mr Oops!
Batphone please!

How does this angle compare to your measurements on the variator ranges you've tested? Do you think it would be closer to the 125 ramp, 300 ramp, in between, close to Malossi/Polini?

Thanks in advance mate.

You act like I take detailed notes at all time!

pulled out the book for our LX and seem to have made the following note:
Malossi ramp 21.5°
Stock ramp 27.5°

I know the GT is flatter than the stock LX and the GTS is flatter still, but I'll need to dig one out of a box of parts as I don't have it written down.

I think the Polini has the ramp angle stamped on it but I don't have one of those around here.

Mate, you are a legend!
Thanks for that.

the slope ( 22 degree ) of ramp plate is matched only to the ramp (ie.roller runway) of V201503 and no need to compare it with other variators.

And the roller used in V201503 is 2015 or 2115.

Sorry for asking if the answer is obvious, but what are the advantages of this variator over a stock variator in the 300 with the Dr Pulley sliders?

V201503 being tested in GTS300, PIAGGIO BEVERLY300 TOURER,people find that the throttle response is instant without any lag or acceleration is continuously from standstill to
the top end.

No real reports yet, but the sales pitch...
"The Dr.Pulley Varios are made much better than originals Varios. The edges and ramps are better smoothed, the overall weight is reduced. The ramps have a slightly different shape and are extended by about 1mm, which provides for a better acceleration curve and increases the Vmax a little bit."

very interesting... i tested the malossi multivar, polini 9 roller and since a while the Dr pulley sliders in the stock variator and my prefered choice was the sliders.

they work superb, so if you tell me that the variator could work even more better i'm all ears espaccially now i'm convinced by the Dr pulley products !

what does it cost for a variator and shipping to Belgium ?
i really need to test oneof those and compare like i did with the other ariators !! 8)

which did you prefer? ended up with sliders in my kymco 250, which I love. I ended up with BOTH variators, and now now have to pick one.

i only tested the sliders in the stock variator because then i was certain i had no belt rubbing and it worked great for me, now my vespa drives like a automatic car in "D", with the polini i had power but it was very nervous while cruising at a certain speed.
the sliders in the stock variator make the variator go up one gear sort of speak when reached your cruising speed and that makes it not so nervous and i get a way better gas milage ! but again when i hammer it it goes as fast as the polini regarding acceleration !

There is an EU order page.
http://www.drpulley.info/shop/product_info.php?language=de&products_id=881&XTCsid=8up4kfphfavit89p69uqklpre0

Hi all!

I've tested the Dr.Pulley Hit Clutch and Dr.Pulley Variator on 3 bikes. And the result as below:

1. Honda PCX 125cc:

- Only Dr.Pulley Variator with 2115_18g Sliding Rollers. The result is very good. Strong take off, smooth and powerful acceleration event from low to high rpm. Increase top speed with 10 - 20 km/h. With OEM it only got 108km/h max but now it can touch 132km/h. No shudder at all. Link for test speed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W-M0chor44Q

2. Honda Air Blade 110cc:

- Only Dr.Pulley Variator with 1814_13g Sliding Rollers. The result is also good too. i've got same as with PCX above.

3. Piaggio Liberty 125cc:

- Dr.Pulley Variator with 2015_12g Sliding Rollers and Dr.Pulley Hit clutch with 12g Clutch Springs and 12.5 Pillow Springs. The result is impressive. When twist throttle, the bike make me feel like flying. I think, when you use both Dr.Pulley Variator and Hit clutch, you'll get all you waiting for.

Thanks Thiennhan!

Out of interest, have you been able to compare the standard OEM variator with Dr Pulley sliders in it, to the Dr Pulley variator in any of these bikes?
Is the variator much better than just the sliders on their own?

I like the concept of a group buy. If anyone starts a buy I might be in?

What is the proposed discount?

well i looked into it and i was almost buying one but then i changed my mind.

i love the Dr Pulley sliders and after all my (bad?) experiences with sportsvariators i really started to like the stock setup with the sliders, with this setup my 125 is as fast in acceleration as with the best sports variator and i'm afraid that the Dr Pulley sports variator is a 'lot of buck' and a 'little bang'.

if the variator was half the price i would take the plunge but to pay 159EUR + weights for 35EUR and then shipping costs makes the whole thing one of the most expensive variators, ok it wil last 10x longer but hey that does my Dr Pulley setup right now to and the stock variator is dirt cheap.

i would love to test one because i tested the most populair sportsvariators so i can compare them with the rest but i just think it's to much money(again) to spend on something that is'nt going to improve much(i guess) and if i'm disapointed i just go back to the stock setup and then there lies another expensive variator in my garage doing nothing

Hi, I want to carry out most of my own servicing. I'm planning the 10k ahead of schedule.

Where can I find out the current weight of the rollers in my 2009 GTS300 without taking it apart and physically weighing them. I've checked the workshop manual and searched the web without success.

According to the advice given I would need to go for Dr. Pulley sliding rollers about 10% less in weight.
I've been watching the Vespa Tech videos and Rolfie guessed at just over 14g. Rolfie et al swore blind DR P's are the way to go.

Therefore looking at DR P's official website I'm aiming for 13g?
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKH5U7hA_ij5_BFquIPJNxb6CHMZ8t25W

Any one willing to confirm my assumption before I part with my cash.
Thanks in advance.
Chris.

Hi,

To celebrate the holiday season.

Dr.Pulley would like to provide an offer of USD150.00 to get one kit of V201503
( including shipping from Taiwan to States ) ---including one moveable pulley-half,one ramp plate with slide piece,one boss in 46mm ,two pcs of washers and two sets of SR (SR2015 for 125/150cc; SR2115 for 200,250 &300cc).

If you're interested in this offer,please do the payment via paypal account of " dr.pulley.net@gmail.com " ,give us your shipping address, phone no. and also tell us the displacement of your scooter is 125,150,200,250 or 300cc then we'll include the suggested SR in the package.

This offer is effective for 8 days only and will be expired on 2012,Dec.31.


email address-- Dr.Pulley- Wallis<service2>;

nice offer !

but there are people in europe *ahum*belgium*ahum* that want to try that variator also

(+ compare it to the polini and malossi and the stock variator woth Dr Pulley sliders)

Nice, end run the one American dealer, you recommend, who took the risk of ordering in units and faithfully supports the scooter and ATV Market with Dr Pulley products. Why wouldn't you do this through your dealer network?

Can you do this for the people in Australia as well?

Answered my own question after digging around in the depth of the forum along with other frustrated members.

Ref: Dr Pulley HIT clutch and Sliding Rollers on Vespa GTS300 ?

This was/is a specific question (like most) that go completley off on a tangent.

GTS300 !

Looks like SR2117/6-14 are the Sliding Roller s to aim for.
Any one in the UK recommend a retailer?

Merry Christmas/holiday all.

SIP is the place to go for those in the UK.

http://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/variator+rollers+serie+pro+_sr211714

Thank you Jim

also, the stock roller weights are listed in a Wiki article on this site:
https://modernvespa.com/forum/wiki-standard-roller-weights

If the offer still stands to also send the parts to Australia, with postage adjustment if you need, I will buy a set for my 250ie. I can send you the money now.

I will do performance testing if required, 0-50kph, 0-100kph, averaged fuel economy over a regular set distance, etc.

Can Australia be included please?