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Hi,

Is there a recommended method for changing the rear tire for the spare on a PX (or Stella) if one is by the side of the road? I think I read somewhere about getting the bottom of the engine cases resting up on the curb, perhaps by leaning the bike away from the curve, as a means to get the tire up off the ground without a jack, lift, etc. Is that how this is done? I've only done it in my garage with a jack.

Thanks,

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I have done two road side changes and both times I've taken the cowl off an laid it on its side in some grass. No issues at all.
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That works great IF there is a curb and if it is high enough. On my xcountry trip I carried a length of 4" plactic tubing that had a couple of notches cut for the rear of the scoot. Lift scoot onto, release lower shock mounting bolt, R&R rear wheel.
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Thanks for the responses.

So Nigel, you just take the engine side cowel off, set that aside where it will not be damaged,, and lay the bike down with the right side of the bike, so the side with the engine, in the grass?

-matt
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Thats the way I did it when my tire got a nail in it at a club in Philly. A friend of ours luckily had a blanket in their trunk!
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Once at a rally I picked up some bit of metal in the back tire during a quick little ride on Friday night. before I knew it 5 guys had the rear end about 3 feet up in the air. took about 4 minutes to change it out. was actually kinda fun lol.

I suggest the lean it over if you can swing it. or push it to a better spot.
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The 2 times I had to do this for rear tires, I put the bike on the stand(Cosa has a side stand & Rally has a stock centerstand) then carefully leaned/balanced the bike tipped into a small tree or a fat utility pole against the handlebar tip & lever 'crotch'. I loosened the bolts FIRST so I could change the wheel without too much commotion.

I'm not sure if the stand was involved or not with the Cosa, long ago, maybe just the floor edge... and I think a bungee was used with the Rally to help keep it in position.

I'd probably have no problem laying 'em over carefully, but I was full of gas both times and BOTH of these have autolube tanks.
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I lay mine down to change tires, worse case is a little flooding now and then.
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I aint layin' shit down! I just summon a big guy to carefully lift the rear, and a hot chick to change the tire while I file my nails. It's always worked pretty good this way!

Razz emoticon Nahh the last time I had to change the rear tire I had 2 buddies lift the back while I put the spare on... if I didn't have a spare and had to change a tube or didn't have bros.. I suppose I'd lay it down... I shudder at the thought! I'd hope I was near a herd of sheep so I could rustle one, subdue him and lay the bike on his soft fluffy coat!
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Vader19 wrote:
I aint layin' shit down! I just summon a big guy to carefully lift the rear, and a hot chick to change the tire while I file my nails. It's always worked pretty good this way!

Razz emoticon Nahh the last time I had to change the rear tire I had 2 buddies lift the back while I put the spare on... if I didn't have a spare and had to change a tube or didn't have bros.. I suppose I'd lay it down... I shudder at the thought! I'd hope I was near a herd of sheep so I could rustle one, subdue him and lay the bike on his soft fluffy coat!
hahahaahhaha. Summoned by the king!

I carry my jeep's stock car jack, for its a useless bastard because of the lift and tires. For the scoot's tire change, I lift the back like rob above. Yeah, my sccots may look rough, and frankenbike looking, but I'm with High Top.....i ain't laying shit down, except for singles at the strip joint, or laws like Island Carpets(big e smalls reference).
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Had the chance to throw a spare on roadside two months back on a p200...
Cowl off, then spare, then wheel nuts, then I just held the back of the frame up with right hand and wrestled wheel with left. Bike was on stand the whole time...
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I always wanted to make one of these but never seem to get around to it.

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TR wrote:
Had the chance to throw a spare on roadside two months back on a p200...
Cowl off, then spare, then wheel nuts, then I just held the back of the frame up with right hand and wrestled wheel with left. Bike was on stand the whole time...
Yeah, that's the way I do it too. I get to do it once every 2 months here. PITA. My wife's Sprint is a nightmare though as it feels like it will roll off the stand if you push up a but too much (and it has done). I can sometimes pop the 13mm lever on the gear selctor cover lower nut and its the right length just to keep the wheel up about 1cm or so but again, easy to roll off that.
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I have laid my bike on its side to change back tires, I have propped the engine on a full unopened can of coke to change tire and have used a jack to change the rear tire. All work about the same, just depends on what you have available to you at the time.
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Damn, Vader's AAA service is better than mine!

I dig the jack that hooks on the shock.
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Before laying my bike over to change the tire I close the fuel tap and run the motor till it runs the carb dry. Then I look for a grassy knoll to tip to. If the fuel level is not to the top and the lean angle it not too severe than I wont get any flooding.
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I always wanted to make one of these but never seem to get around to it.

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Picked one of those up from a Bajaj dealer years ago for $8.00. Right handy.

Probably a snap to fabricate for a couple of bucks in material.
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Passing on a tip I was given for if/when you lay the scoot down. Take the fuel cap off and put a (clean) plastic bag over the hole. Then replace the fuel cap, capturing the bag in the thread. This helps to stop fuel escaping through the filler hole.

Having said that, I haven't had cause to do it as I carry a block for propping the back end up in such cases, so don't sue me. Razz emoticon
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The one time I've had to do a parking lot tire change, I used the vintage style T handle spark plug wrench I keep in my tool box. Placing it under the lowest section of the cases where the alignment pin is and setting the wrench itself in a fore-and-aft position so as not to encourage the bike to roll forward, it was the perfect height to lift the tire enough to change it.

Obviously, the lug nuts must first be loosened finger-tight since it only lifts the bike sufficient for tire changing, similar to the Bajaj stand. The bike WILL roll forward off the stand if you're not careful.

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I just hang the rear of the bike off a curb. Pretty damn easy.
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Many thanks for all the responses. Obviously, there are a number of good strategies that don't involve calling my wife to bring equipment/tools. She is always willing, but I prefer to avoid that course.

Happy New Year, and best wishes for a safe and prosperous 2013.

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I always wanted to make one of these but never seem to get around to it.

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Would you mind posting or sending via PM the dimensions for that brace?
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Would you mind posting or sending via PM the dimensions for that brace?
HTH

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Cncjerry wrote:
Would you mind posting or sending via PM the dimensions for that brace?
HTH

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I bet if you call SFSC they would have one. You're so dang close!
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Thanks for that, now I have no excuse!
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Thanks for that, now I have no excuse!
That's funny........sorry ginch and cncj.

I thought cnc was asking.........he lives on the otherside of a bridge from a scoo shop.

You on the other hand are on the otherside of a BIGGER bridge
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if someone were to fab up 5-10 of those bajaj engine stands I would bet they could sell em quick like. i would shell out $40 for one.
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i would shell out $40 for one.
Good goin' JJ! You've set the price point.. now we all gotta shell out 40 bones!



*I'd get one too! Razz emoticon
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I'd buy one for $20!

(thats how this bidding works right?)
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I remember the price from Motorsport scooters who had them for sale years ago. too much? I would pay $30 as well 8)
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Maybe just see if you can back order them?
Bet you could get them for less than half of $40.
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now its down to $15? man was I wrong or what? HaHa! Im glad we are all friends here, ya know? who wants to pay $40? ya, me neither. how silly?

anywho, so if anybody wants to make some of these I will be happy to pay $20 ERRR...I mean $15. Thanks (wink wink nudge nudge)
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I think that I would be happy to pay $15 plus shipping for one too.
Only thing is... I'm rocking a sidestand. 8)
Yet another downfall to trying to look cool.
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goin up
i keep meaning to get me one of these but it never happens ............... clicky ......... ya dont carry it.. just fix n forget

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After a tire emergency, I made a couple of these from threaded rod, a wrist pin, curved flat metal, fender washer and nuts. I occasionally use them in the shop. Adjusts using the nut underneath the wrist pin (collar) for different heights. On P series, its helps to leave the retainers off the bumper piece to get it out of the way. The design could stand some refinements, but it has worked.
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Ebay item, 390517096239
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Or ebay item,
190776291555
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Or maybe change a wheel this way!!!!???
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