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Editing to add BASIC REFERENCE links to top of the first page
and add index as it becomes available...:

Also you can find selected posts from this thread quoted and organized by topic over here: Tips 'n Trix 2.0


We have a partial index of pages 6 thru 10 from Ginch, anybody volunteer to index pages 1-5 and after 10?
Ginch wrote:
I did my half and it didn't take so long... was waiting on you to do the first (easy ) half!

Page 6

Super good cleaner - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1821952#1821952 & http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1831251#1831251
Headset pulley assembly made easy - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1823907#1823907
Float needle seat refurbishment - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1823915#1823915
Test a clutch seal in place - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1824083#1824083
Testing autolube function - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1824176#1824176
Removing rear wheel with SIP road fitted - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1831209#1831209
Set timing without degree wheel - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1837893#1837893
Cheapo flywheel holder - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1839964#1839964
Sprint & similar engine assembly - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1842800#1842800
splitting cases method - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1847375#1847375
Tyre installation - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1853718#1853718
Speedo bezel replacement tip - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1854534#1854534
Vespa Manuals - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1858938#1858938
Cheap rear cowl peg buffers - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1859591#1859591
Key cover - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1859645#1859645
Brake pedal pin removal - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1862036#1862036
Rehydrate old dry rubber parts - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1862043#1862043
Setting your timing guide - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1863809#1863809
Checking Clutch Seal using a Leak Detector - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1875163#1875163

Page 7

White lettering on tyres - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1888520#1888520
Custom cable bend for carb - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1888527#1888527
Handy oil dispenser - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1889856#1889856
split the motor in the scoot - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1896108#1896108
Adjusting clutch cable - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1896379#1896379
Accessing mixture screw - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1902964#1902964
Remove stuck clutch - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1903311#1903311
Split stuck cases - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1903311#1903311
Bar end indicator alternate fitting method - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1904758#1904758
Protect paint from cowl pin - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1908091#1908091
Another way to keep cables from fraying - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1908107#1908107
Check if your points flywheel will work with electronic ignition - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1908217#1908217
Bearing dummies - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1909221#1909221
Useful tool - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1909528#1909528
Electric start hole plug - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1909535#1909535
Quick disconnect fuel coupler - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1909745#1909745

Page 8

Adjusting Halogen headlight bulb focus - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1909891#1909891
Holding washers in place - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1910696#1910696
Tie-down hook - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1911878#1911878
Cable adjustment made easy - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1913300#1913300
Battery ribbons - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1914206#1914206
Tracing an airleak - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1914969#1914969
Pinch bolt tips - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1915787#1915787
Screw Jack - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1918223#1918223
Oil tank reassembly - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1918337#1918337
Alternate "jack" - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1918351#1918351
P200E Front Brake Switch Mod For New Cable - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1920820#1920820
Side markers/auxiliary turn signals - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1921164#1921164
Test Autolube - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1934460#1934460
Testing an electronic stator - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1936758#1936758
Rear Jack - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1936805#1936805

Page 9

Setting points - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1940505#1940505
Separating rims from the tire - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1940624#1940624
Removing smeared aluminum piston from the bore - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1943681#1943681
Easy gudgeon pin replacement tip - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1947679#1947679
Quick and Easy Throttle Cable Adjustment - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1947750#1947750
Longer hub studs for tubeless rims - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1951306#1951306
Setting your timing - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1953918#1953918
Quick trailer channel for transporting - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1955203#1955203
Better access to clutch pinch bolt - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1955244#1955244
Alternate key blank for Stella - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1955693#1955693
Rubber Engine Mount installation - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1955880#1955880
Mirror extenders/risers - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1958265#1958265
Compress wavy washer on gear/throttle tube - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1958265#1958265
Point setting tool - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1968931#1968931
Wheel shims - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1971408#1971408

Page 10

Removing rattle-can paint - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1975815#1975815
Idle jet chart - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1976416#1976416
Using icycle cables as gear cables - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1980862#1980862
Fitting exhaust gas probe - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1980878#1980878
DIY carb jets made easy - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1983161#1983161
How to gas up - http://modernvespa.com/forum/post1984883#1984883
http://www.scooterhelp.com/ Our GoTo VIN search for model & year ID plus much more including some MANUALS in PDF format.

http://scoot.net/classifieds/ Shop here for whole scoots down to nuts & bolts, like online 'American Pickers' for scooters sometimes. Sell stuff too.

http://www.vespamaintenance.com/ Lots of DIY tutorials here

http://www.scootermercato.com/Garage/Tech-Tips More tutorials here with a great online parts shop attached. Also a diagram section

http://vespaguide.com/cms/ A new one to me, but seems to have some good content.

http://www.scooterrescue.com/the-rally-200.html & http://vesparally200.tumblr.com/
TWO specialty sites for Rally 200 owners & fans.

http://website.lineone.net/~smallframes/index.htm & http://www.vespa-50.com/ & http://vespasmallframeforum.proboards.com/ THREE sites for smallframe issues, the third is a forum.

and
mr10 wrote:
...

This might interest you guys too, maybe:
Building a PX engine in 185 pics:
http://gallery.vespresso.nl/Vespresso/Referentie/P200-85-Motorblok-Opbouw

Dismanteling a Rally fork (doing it up is in the Rally album):
http://gallery.vespresso.nl/Vespresso/Referentie/Rally-Voorvork
If you're going to be assembling a motor(especially first time), be sure to check out mr10's HUGE pic set of the process. No words, just lots of great pics! But that's like 185,000 words?

Thanks to oopsclunkthud & flyngti we now have this : 'The correct way to build VBB engine', a full blown factory service manual.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dn5vnn7ro7jrs4g/Vespa_service_manual_1955-1965.pdf


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clutch cable routing

I was reminded of this by the shift cable routing question. I 've started running the clutch cable down the FAR side of the column, over by the throttle cable. I haven't seen this on any I've taken out & don't know if anybody else does this, but it gives you a larger bend radius and that makes pulling in the clutch easier.



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adjusting shifter cables
These small 4" Vise Grip knockoffs were only $1 at Lowe's so I grabbed like 10 of them & have given away some for brownie points.
I've modified them for special jobs too. This one for reforming the edge bead really should be done with a bigger tool , but the others work well.





Here's how to do your gear cables EASY and do BOTH at the same time:


better if you use a broomstick or table leg, instead of flat board for the post.





After I set bungee up, I clutched it & shifted all thru the gears, rocking tire as req'd with STILL lots of tension on BOTH lines & with NOTHING loosened by me yet.
Then I put transmission and shift handle both in neutral & viola! Look at the slack I found! If it's the back one that needs adjusting, you can put transmission & shifter grip both in 4th to get at it easier. This technique works well for clutch & brake as well.



Loosen the 7mm while holding the 8mm, slide it into notch tight w/ tip of screwdriver, tighten again & it's all adjusted where you want it. Cable ends are UNDAMAGED. And, sorry yes, my one cable IS kinda long, I have the cable holes thru the cover so I just coil it up outside.
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Easy-to-remove exhaust bolt; Easy clutch nut
Voodoo, you are most resourceful! Love the bungee idea.
I use the opposite cables method as I found it diificult to thread the 'normal' way. The only downside is that the speedo cable and nut tends to be hard up against the 2 cables where they cross, making it a little difficult to get the speedo back in. Otherwise, very good.

This tip is for the castellated clutch nut. Throw it away. Just use the other kind, your knuckles will thank you.


My other tip is for an exhaust that has a nut & bolt through the swingarm, I ground down one side of the bolt so as to get it past the tyre easily. For the type with a captive nut, I've been meaning to fit an allen-head bolt for the same reason.
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V oodoo wrote:
Thankyou Sir, but I think we need PICS of your exhaust bolt idea there. I was JUST discussing this problem with a friend here, so you're right on cue! If it's still half baked, finish it up STAT for crying out loud, so we can all enjoy!






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My tip is for an exhaust that has a nut & bolt through the swingarm, I ground down one side of the bolt so as to get it past the tyre easily. For the type with a captive nut, I've been meaning to fit an allen-head bolt for the same reason.
...
Thankyou Sir, but I think we need PICS of your exhaust bolt idea there. I was JUST discussing this problem with a friend here, so you're right on cue! If it's still half baked, finish it up STAT for crying out loud, so we can all enjoy!

Meanwhile I'll drag another contributor in here, no need to pull those cylinder studs kids. No pics needed:
jimmyb865 wrote:
In the past when I have gotten a vespa project, one of the first things I do is remove the engine entirely, which makes the second part of this even better.

When I remount the motor I put the king pin in port to starboard instead of the starboard to port.

That way when I want to remove the topend, I just remove the nut on the pin and back the pin out about a 1/4" and wala........

the motor will tilt out about an inch which is all you need.

Just a different method.
Hint: if you have a long 3/8 rod you can switch that long pivot bolt end for end WITHOUT dropping the motor. Start the rod in as you draw the bolt out, then push the rod thru with the bolt from the other side.

Disclaimer: Am told it won't work w/ big kits on 200 motors
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Replacing speedo cable outer.

Pull the inner out of the headset. Slide the old (or new if the old one asploded) inner in backwards...from the tire up to the headset.

Pull the old outer, use the backwards inner as a guide for the new outer then pull the inner and install from the top of the headset.
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How about reattaching the 2-stroke oil reserve to the gas tank without the special tool?

Gonna try it soon, looks like a real bugger.
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How about reattaching the 2-stroke oil reserve to the gas tank without the special tool?

Gonna try it soon, looks like a real bugger.
You mean the plastic tank? I use two shorter extensions and a socket. Easy peasy.
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Re: adjusting shifter cables
V oodoo wrote:
Here's how to do your gear cables EASY and do BOTH at the same time:

Holy goddamn shit. What an exceptional idea. I am totally going to try this on my Jet. May be a bit cramped so I may have to take the rear shock off.

Thumbs up on this one.
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rgconner wrote:
How about reattaching the 2-stroke oil reserve to the gas tank without the special tool?

Gonna try it soon, looks like a real bugger.
You mean the plastic tank? I use two shorter extensions and a socket. Easy peasy.
K. That is what I thought, might need a wobble socket to make it easier to seat, but that was it.

Manual shows a smaller version of the fuel tap wrench to put it in there.
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I put my gear lube in a plastic ketchup like bottle so I can just squeeze it in the little filler hole.



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I put my gear lube in a plastic ketchup like bottle so I can just squeeze it in the little filler hole.
I got a big 100cc syringe and use it for that
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Stuck without a mixing cup? Find a drugstore and buy a baby bottle...works like a champ!
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I put my gear lube in a plastic ketchup like bottle so I can just squeeze it in the little filler hole.
Oh cool, I love teriyaki sauce!

Edit: LABEL your containers, so you and others know what is in them.

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Instead of a ketchup bottle, go to a sally beauty or any other beauty suply shop and get a hair dye aplication bottle, they have the ml and oz marks. I got one with a long angled nozzel that works great.
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Portable electric starter
I've found this to be a really bad idea! After using it every now and again to start the motor I blame it for the cone breaking off my crank, which is not designed to be 'driven' from that direction. When you do it and the motor begins to catch you have forces going in both directions for a little back and forth. I'm guessing that is the issue. I'd still use it with the plug out to check for spark however.
A mate sent me a pic of his brand new crank recently, it had snapped the cone off. He'd also used this method!
Ginch wrote:
Sometimes you need an electric start... maybe for testing or checking something. I ground down a cheapo socket extension and put it in my big drill. Turns it over pretty fast. Not something I use often, but a couple of times it's been very handy.

Edit: Be careful with this... no problems when the spark plug is out, but when it's in your electric drill will want to turn and tear out of your hands if you're not careful.
Thanks to SFvsr for pointing that out.






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Check for Spark
This is a good way to check for spark (Courtesy of Voodoo).. you don't have to hold the plug and try and kick the bike which can be awkward, and sometimes Shocking! (in the worst way).

Pictures are pretty self explanatory... two sparks plugs and a pice or thick wire... 1st plug in the head... 2nd plug attached to plug wire... wire in between... simple, effective and pain free!

*Addition.. this test doesn't insure the plug is actually firing in the head, as the plug still may be fouled or otherwise damaged, but it does show that your stator, points, coil, CDI, etc are functioning and you are getting spark TO your plug. (make sure you are using a good plug to begin with)







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How to Install a Hella Lamp
This link will take you to my Flickr set with the how I did it. Incredibly simple.
1. Get some lights
2. Get some rubber stoppers and a M12 bolt with nylok nut and a stack of stainless washers (I used 3)
3. Drill a hole
4. Install assembly
5. Connect to power.

This will also work for a Vespa with zero changes.

I will be updating the set to include the rear of the assembly, the dimensions of the stoppers, and the wiring.



Hella Lamp on Jet 200 by SFvsr, on Flickr
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Fool Proof Cable Replacement
This is a fool proof way to replace your cables (Inners and outers)

Don't mess around with electrical tape, duct tape, Gorilla tape etc.

1) Get a roll of 20-22 gauge steel wire (Any hardware store)

2) Cut a piece of the wire Twice the length of the cable + 1 foot on each end (just to be safe)

3) Pull the inner cable out of the outer sleeve while the outer sleeve is still in place on the scooter.

4) Feed the steel wire through the OLD cable outer.

5) Remove the inner cable from the NEW cable. (set aside)

6) Slide the NEW cable outer over the remainder of the steel wire (the 1st 1/2 of the length of wire has already been fed through the OLD cable outer.

7) With the steel wire running through both the new and old cable outers, simply pull the OLD outer while pushing the NEW outer with your other hand. (you can tie a knot in the steel wire, but it's really not necessary) The steel wire will guide the path for the NEW cable outer and Wha-la! Your new outer will be in place.

8) Pull the steel wire out from both outers. (toss the old outer, and save the steel wire for your other cables) (then save it for another day)

9) Feed the NEW cable INNER through the NEW outer!

DONE!

This method really is fool proof!.... and when it's this easy, it's actually fun!


* For the rear brake cable outer (since it dead-ends inside the frame tunnel, I simply pull the old outer off (leaving the old inner to slide the new outer onto), clip any frayed end off the old inner, and slide the new outer into place... then pull the OLD inner out from the Pedal side and slide the new inner in.


As I'm pushing the NEW inners in (from the headset) and pulling the OLD outers out from the bottom (engine side)


You can tie a knot.. but it's not necessary.. jut leave an extra foot of wire at either end and it's all good.


I pull both gear cables at the same time.


Wire runs through the OLD outer and NEW outer (inners have been removed) (OLD outer is still in place in the scooter)


Steel wire into OLD outer


Any hardware store should have wire

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Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:29:42 +0000 quote
That's how I do it. I just use heavy picture hanging wire(similar to brake or gear cable except in longer lengths) with a cable clamp/nipple instead of a knot. I like this setup because the picture hanging wire is flexible and I can keep it rolled up in my tool box.
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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:24:57 +0000 quote
lock missing key
repost, but maybe good here too if somebody needs to find it later.

Please feel free to quote yourself if you posted a good tip in the past & aren't sure if it belongs here.
Think about it, we might never find your old post when we need it!
yeah, been there.
V oodoo wrote:

This actually worked for me on my PK steering and on a glove box lock, just be patient.
Use a bent LARGE safety pin for a pick, it is stiff, strong & small enuff.
A bent LARGE bobby(hair) pin will work for the turning lever.
PS Also was suggested to post brief relevant 'header', like lock missing key above, to make searching actually work. If you posted a tip without one, please edit one in?

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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:34:00 +0000 quote
astromags wrote:
That's how I do it. I just use heavy picture hanging wire(similar to brake or gear cable except in longer lengths) with a cable clamp/nipple instead of a knot. I like this setup because the picture hanging wire is flexible and I can keep it rolled up in my tool box.
Yep! That'll work too!
I just prefer the stiffer wire, but works same! Easy!



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Re: lock missing key
V oodoo wrote:
repost, but maybe good here too if somebody needs to find it later.

Please feel free to quote yourself if you posted a good tip in the past & aren't sure if it belongs here.
Think about it, we might never find your old post when we need it!
yeah, been there.
V oodoo wrote:

This actually worked for me on my PK steering and on a glove box lock, just be patient.
Use a bent LARGE safety pin for a pick, it is stiff, strong & small enuff.
A bent LARGE bobby(hair) pin will work for the turning lever.
PS Also was suggested to post brief relevant 'header', like lock missing key above, to make searching actually work. If you posted a tip without one, please edit one in?
Not the best depiction of how to rake and pick a lock.....

Obviously this video was made by someone who is not a locksmith.

You need to rake the pins fast.........very fast. A lot faster than your wee video above. Starting at the back of the lock working forward in a firm raking sweep. Picking a lock is about tension on the cylinder, flat spring steel works best.

Old Vespa locks are easy to pick, there are only 4 pins.

Cheers
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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:42:54 +0000 quote
cable fishing wire choices
Clearest inner & outer recable I've seen yet & w/ PICS!

Vader, you're using annealed wire, stiffer than the flex picture wire. I also like to use piano wire sometimes when you need it REALLY stiff*, it's like the wire on the choke. I love options.







*what? you were expecting something off topic?
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Re: lock missing key
jimh wrote:
Not the best depiction of how to rake and pick a lock.....

Obviously this video was made by someone who is not a locksmith.

You need to rake the pins fast.........very fast. A lot faster than your wee video above. Starting at the back of the lock working forward in a firm raking sweep. Picking a lock is about tension on the cylinder, flat spring steel works best.

Old Vespa locks are easy to pick, there are only 4 pins.

Cheers
Agreed, I did it more like you described, but couldn't find a gif like that.

And 'tensioning lever' is MUCH better than 'turning lever', BUT a bobby pin IS flat spring steel, so works pretty good shaped like this so you can lightly vary the tension at the end of the long lever arm.

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SI Carb Air Mix Screw "EZ Adjust"
This is neither new nor revolutionary, However! it has come up many times in the past and I thought it a good tip for a new SI carb user!

So.. SI carb user... you'll quickly notice that the air mix screw in the back of the carb is in a rather tricky place to be adjusted. It's possible to get in there with a Micro ratchet wrench, but that's still not all that great...

So.. EASY tip, is to simply cut in a slot for a flathead screwdriver.... this way you can pull the plug from the back of the carb box (if you have one) or just go in through the hole with a long skinny flathead and Wha-la! Adjust until your mix is correct and your heart's content!

*this may not work with every version of SI carb (I'm not familiar with every year, make and model, but it's good for a heck of a lot of them)


That little brass guy with a spring down in there is who we're talking about!


A simple cutting wheel on a Dremel tool, or even a hacksaw and/or file will do the trick!

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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 03:55:15 +0000 quote
Sometimes helpful to know the proper way to shorten a cable.
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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:43:35 +0000 quote
Tool Kit
I'll add that the 'Spark Detective' Vader posted won't do you much good at home if you have a sudden problem. A bit of wire converts the spare plug already in your tool roll into a tester, so TAKE IT WITH YOU! And I add a small 2.6 oz bottle of gas too, so I can pour a bit down the carb throat if I like. Nice to figure out quick if it's gas or spark when you're broke down on the road.





PS Please post up PICS when possible or even VIDEOS, instead of LINKS to them if you would, that kinda 'interupts' the flow?
Unless most ppl would prefer no pics...
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