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Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:07 pm linkquote
Great day scooter fam!!
I recently inherited a 2002 ET4 nicknamed Scootersorus. This may be an old question here, so plz excuse my newbie inexperience. Does anyone know if racing 60 12" wheels will fit on my currently 10" ET4?[/img]

Thanks


Scootersorus


Current wheel

Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:28 pm

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Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:28 pm linkquote
I also have the malossi 190 kit planned with the variator upgrade and a TurboKit exhaust with Bitubo suspension (not in the pic/ will be here tomorrow). The Baby could use some Love!!

Has anyone tried this specific set up?



Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:55 pm

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Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:55 pm linkquote
on the rims, no the larger stuff doesn't fit.

larger rims have been fitted but there is nothing "off the shelf bolt on" that's any bigger.

solid work on the go fast upgrades. that will all pack a punch. don't forget to throw a fresh belt at it while you're in there.

good luck!

ETA: either way, please be sure to replace your tires! I can already see the sidewalls are damaged.

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:17 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:17 am linkquote
If it's the Leader engine, I think you can fit the 11" ones of the LX (front will definitely fit, don't know if they kept the same drum size for the rear). But then you won't have too many tires optionsโ€ฆ
Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:27 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:27 am linkquote
SaFiS wrote:
If it's the Leader engine, I think you can fit the 11" ones of the LX (front will definitely fit, don't know if they kept the same drum size for the rear). But then you won't have too many tires optionsโ€ฆ
the front 11" from an LX will work, and it fits, it just handles a little odd. the tires available should suit most any need, but they are more limited.

the LX rear is 10" same as the ET, just a different looking rim.
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:57 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:57 am linkquote
Thanks for the feed back!!
With that info in the hoster...
๐Ÿค”
Has anyone seen a benefit to going "bigger" at least in the front, the way the Lx is set up from the factory?.. As it pretains to higher speed handling & stability.
Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:03 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:03 am linkquote
It's going down!!!!


Small steps


Towards progress!!!

Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:08 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:08 am linkquote
Getting into the meat of it so far there's a fresh carburetor in here however the intake was not connected at all


A bit of mess in there......
Still a God send !!!!
Less than 3k miles, just needs some attention!!!!!

Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:47 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:47 am linkquote
greasy125 wrote:
on the rims, no the larger stuff doesn't fit.

larger rims have been fitted but there is nothing "off the shelf bolt on" that's any bigger.

solid work on the go fast upgrades. that will all pack a punch. don't forget to throw a fresh belt at it while you're in there.

good luck!

ETA: either way, please be sure to replace your tires! I can already see the sidewalls are damaged.
It's been down a few times before I inherited it. She's definitely got some "Personality".. lol


Beauty marks


..

Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:58 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:58 am linkquote
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the LX rear is 10" same as the ET, just a different looking rim.
You're right, I forgot they kept the 10" at the rearโ€ฆ
Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:19 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:19 am linkquote
The rear is the problem, because you have a drum brake and the racing 60s is a disk. I don't know if one of the new rear rims from the Primavera or Sprint will fit. They are 11 and 12 inches. The crankcase is identical to the one used in the GT 200, which uses 12 inch wheels, and disk brakes. If you find a rear rim from a Piaggio scooter that uses the same brake shoes, it should mount up, but might not clear the rear of the engine case once you put a tire on it. If it's close, you could use a lower profile tire and grind away at the back of the engine case. Just stop before you strike oil.
Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:31 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:31 am linkquote
Ok,
Yes, I've seen that the Lx 11" wheel will work (in the front).. How will this change effect the ride quality? Functionality is always 1st!.. lol Looking cool ๐Ÿ˜Ž is definitely a SUPER close 2nd!!!
Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:38 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:38 am linkquote
And thanks for the EAGLE ๐Ÿ‘ eye (greasy125)! I went out and took a look at the tires & they are dry rotted... never looked at the walls, just the tread.. The journey continues!!
Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:42 pm

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:42 pm linkquote
ET4Love wrote:
Ok, Yes, I've seen that the Lx 11" wheel will work (in the front).. How will this change effect the ride quality? Functionality is always 1st!.. lol Looking cool ๐Ÿ˜Ž is definitely a SUPER close 2nd!!!
the 11" on the front rides funny. the ET has a different fork than the LX, thus the difference in handling.
Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:44 pm

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:44 pm linkquote
ET4Love wrote:
And thanks for the EAGLE ๐Ÿ‘ eye (greasy125)! I went out and took a look at the tires & they are dry rotted... never looked at the walls, just the tread.. The journey continues!!
you have a 20 year old bike, there's so much more that you're going to discover that needs replacement and/or work! but it's all straight forward and mostly enjoyable!
Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:07 pm

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:07 pm linkquote
Motovista wrote:
The rear is the problem, because you have a drum brake and the racing 60s is a disk. I don't know if one of the new rear rims from the Primavera or Sprint will fit. They are 11 and 12 inches. The crankcase is identical to the one used in the GT 200, which uses 12 inch wheels, and disk brakes. If you find a rear rim from a Piaggio scooter that uses the same brake shoes, it should mount up, but might not clear the rear of the engine case once you put a tire on it. If it's close, you could use a lower profile tire and grind away at the back of the engine case. Just stop before you strike oil.
I'd briefly considered those options. I'm sure if you had access to the Piaggio parts bin a little mixy-matchy and you could get 11's or 12's on both ends. but that's a lot of variables in play and might have to get creative... I'd love to do just that, throw a mock up motor up on the bench and just figure it out but even at used prices those parts are a grip of dough.

the only things I can think of off the top of my head are:

>fly 50/150 rear wheel-- 12" and a drum. might work with minimal parts swappage. just run a GT/GTS rim up front nobody would notice.

>zip wheels-- 10" but at least look cool?

>NRG wheel? it's 13" but no matching front for the single sided swinger. so same as the fly wheel

>skipper wheels?
Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:09 pm

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:09 pm linkquote
Yeah.. it's a Good time!!
More updates:


A bit nerve wrecking.... plan'n to ride home this evening


...

Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:15 pm

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:15 pm linkquote
I read this article earlier & yes, that parts bin would be epic!!
greasy125 wrote:
I'd briefly considered those options. I'm sure if you had access to the Piaggio parts bin a little mixy-matchy and you could get 11's or 12's on both ends. but that's a lot of variables in play and might have to get creative... I'd love to do just that, throw a mock up motor up on the bench and just figure it out but even at used prices those parts are a grip of dough.

the only things I can think of off the top of my head are:

>fly 50/150 rear wheel-- 12" and a drum. might work with minimal parts swappage. just run a GT/GTS rim up front nobody would notice.

>zip wheels-- 10" but at least look cool?

>NRG wheel? it's 13" but no matching front for the single sided swinger. so same as the fly wheel

>skipper wheels?
Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:18 pm

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:18 pm linkquote
I'll check into those wheel options!
Thanks


Taking a peek ๐Ÿ‘€
๐Ÿค“

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:20 pm linkquote
pro tip: if you put the wheel back on the motor balances itself nicely on the center stand and makes working on it a breeze. throw it up on a bench and it's just the right angle for doing a top end!

also, before you tear down, pull the transmission cover off (you'll need to anyway later) and using the crank run everything around and set it as if you're doing a valve check. then mark it on the chain and crown wheel so when you go to reassemble there's not question about where it needs to be.

good luck!
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:44 pm linkquote
that bike's from my neck of the woods, how did it end up all the way in GA? Looks like a good fun project.
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:19 pm linkquote
Yep, it sure is sdjohn!
I inherited it from a Marine buddy of mine who's sons were using it as a crash dummy.. Got its last service at Scooter West out there.


The project continues

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:29 pm linkquote
Thanks for the "Pro Tips" Greasy!!
Keep'em coming Sir!


Worked like a charm


190cc kit in
Back together!!
New plug, new oil
Variator upgrade installed.
& of course......... some stuff broke.. lol

Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:16 pm

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:16 pm linkquote
uhh... why is the decompression spring and the containment wheel not, um, in the motor?
Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:37 am

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Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:37 am linkquote
Updates!
Duh..
Sounds different!!!!


TurboKit vs Mallossi... This is what I went with.
Opinions?

Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:46 am

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Next up!!!


More power exposed faulty suspension.. expected I guess...
definitely time to upgrade

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An OBTW:
The lights don't work... all the time at least


This may be the reason after checking fuses...

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