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Hi guys, after my 125 cylinder took a dump I've been looking to upgrade. I found someone local selling a 177 polini kit. He says it is a second size kit that he had bored. So I'm not 100% what that means since he says he hasn't run it.

If I decide to go with this kit what is a good jetting starting point? I have the stock carb as well as the stock exhaust. The bike in question is a 79 p125x.
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Seller said this when I asked what that meant:

I bought it new from scooterworks then I soft seized it then bought the second size from SIP. Never ran it but i did compression test it and i think it was around 90 but im not sure.
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Any thoughts? He is selling for 150 so it's a chance for me to save a few bucks if it sounds good.
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look at it and feel the bore




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So is this right?

177 Polini cylinder bored to second oversize.
New second oversize piston w/new rings.
Does it come with a gudgeon pin? Circlips? Head?

If it's complete it sounds reasonably priced. You'll want to be sure the piston-to-cylinder clearance is right as well as the ring gap.
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Ginch wrote:
So is this right?

177 Polini cylinder bored to second oversize.
New second oversize piston w/new rings.
Does it come with a gudgeon pin? Circlips? Head?

If it's complete it sounds reasonably priced. You'll want to be sure the piston-to-cylinder clearance is right as well as the ring gap.
Do you know the specs for these? I believe it is complete so I just need to make sure it's all matched up properly.
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Ginch wrote:
You'll want to be sure the piston-to-cylinder clearance is right as well as the ring gap.
Do you know the specs for these? I believe it is complete so I just need to make sure it's all matched up properly.
I don't... somone here might, or you could ask Hot Rod Al.
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If you are buying a used Polini kit for $150 I would rather recommend that you get a DR 180 cc kit brand new for like $240
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If you are buying a used Polini kit for $150 I would rather recommend that you get a DR 180 cc kit brand new for like $240
Well it's technically a new bore and new piston. Just need some specs to make sure it's right
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....DR 180 cc kit brand new for like $240
209 at Mercato less their 20% discount plus shipping totals about $175 to your door. Just installed one and it was a snap. I found the inside of the head a bit rough & hit it with some sandpaper, but good value here if you need a new 3 port top end. YaY Mercato!
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How do you get the 20%?
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Just call Dave if you have any problem, he'll set you up. You might have to buy something else to stay above $200 or something, I'm not sure.
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Just call Dave if you have any problem, he'll set you up. You might have to buy a couple more things to stay above $200 or something, I'm not sure.
Just had to add.. I spoke to Dave again today.. and he is w/o a doubt One Cool Dude! He's never in a rush, answers everything and loves to chat a bit... Great guy... call him.. even if you don't need anything.. just call... for the experience! Well worth it!
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Just call Dave if you have any problem, he'll set you up. You might have to buy a couple more things to stay above $200 or something, I'm not sure.
Just had to add.. I spoke to Dave again today.. and he is w/o a doubt One Cool Dude! He's never in a rush, answers everything and loves to chat a bit... Great guy... call him.. even if you don't need anything.. just call... for the experience! Well worth it!
Ditto! F-a-t-h-e-r.....
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Brianl289 wrote:
How do you get the 20%?
If 20% plus shipping brings it to $175 I guessing the shipping is $30ish?
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I think you'd get it to your door for under 200 in the states and depending how far you are from Atlanta. I think my shipping was under 20, but I don't have my receipt handy.
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